Why do Japanese cars OUTPERFORM and OUTLAST American cars?

[TheFeels]

Murica companies all about dat $$$ while in in Japan it would hurt them knowing that the car they put out was going to be chit in a few years. Not wanting to fail is in their culture, even if it means less money

[FFailed]

You should use amsoil you can change your oil every 25k and the car will last forever

[xXBrutalXx]

my buddy's 2012 Accord's interior is fuking garbage, makes my 14' Mazda 6 look and feel like a Rolls Royce Phantom

[mtdman]

American car companies want people to buy new cars every 5 years. So they are built to go to **** in 4.5 years. That way people pay off their current note and go buy something new that looks and runs better. And it works.

[TheFeels]

American car companies want people to buy new cars every 5 years. So they are built to go to **** in 4.5 years. That way people pay off their current note and go buy something new that looks and runs better. And it works.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence

Same goes for the iPhone. No idea why I bought this piece of chit

[Changedmalife]

don't forget subaru, they're tanks

how coem I never see them on the road>?

[leadthefollower]

Japanese manufacturers really stress regular preventative maintenance which helps the cars last longer. Also in Japan, Germany etc. skilled workers aren't looked down on in the way the blue collar workers are by white collar in the US. As a result, they take better pride in their craftsmanship.

[skinnytobulk]

my dads acure tsx is pretty nice

[YasiinBey]

my buddy's 2012 Accord's interior is fuking garbage, makes my 14' Mazda 6 look and feel like a Rolls Royce Phantom

maybe it's because i'm not a car person but not that much of a difference

'14 mazda 6

'12 honda accord

[DC5S2]

outperform??? this is not 90s 2000s.. some USA car is good..C7/Z28/Mustang is some best value for speed ..
outreliable? well, japan must be best still..but, many of there cars is made on USA anyway..new NSX is ohio made

[MiscterHands]

I think it was a lot more true in the past, but american car companies really are starting to make good improvements.

I think a lot of it had to do with american car companies having to cut costs in order to match foreign (honda, toyota) prices. And these costs usually come in the form of material selection and design considerations.

Also a lot of it probably depended on lean manufacturing and the fact that Toyota's lean manufacturing process was basically the guideline for how to efficiently run a plant. American companies have had time to study it and implement it, thus saving costs in wasteful areas so more can be devoted to the engineering and quality control side rather than in a pit.

[TracedInAir]

They're pretty much the same. I see plenty of American cars with 200k+. That American cars being unreliable stuff is so 1990. And a modern day hemi is good for 200k and performs great. You're in an era full of great cars, the only way you'll fuk up is going European.

[seanb1979]

outperform??? this is not 90s 2000s.. some USA car is good..C7/Z28/Mustang is some best value for speed ..
outreliable? well, japan must be best still..but, many of there cars is made on USA anyway..new NSX is ohio made

thats the thing, you gotta spend 40+ k to get a good american car, while with japan a 20k car will go 10-15 years

[Improve573]

japanese car brah checking in

dad bought a lancer new in 2003, i got it when i turned 16, still using it now and its a beast

[ggMoe]

Are we all just going to pretend to ignore the true GOAT german cars? I think the
Jetta/golf have the best all around reliablity/quality. I've had my jetta for 340k and only gave it up after a collision (which it survived, those things are tanks)

I own a dodge now with only 150k and it's giving me much more trouble. Will never get another american


Germans are the true master engineers

[surf junkie]

In general, East Asia won a lot of industry via one-way free trade, companies exploiting laborers and lower labor cost. Once most of the industry is there, most of the best engineers will go there. Once that happens, then the best stuff gets manufactured there. Pretty simple.

USA was the best and only in the 1950s-1970s, until their politicians and unions went full potato and decided to become a post-industrial/post-prosperity nation.

There has been slight resurgence since 2010, but that is almost entirely due to spending future prosperity (printing money with 3-6% debt attached to it) to prevent an economic collapse in the present. Money has entered the US economy via the treasury printing it, then giving it to banks, which loan it to auto companies, which in turn hire good engineers and workers, who in turn build great products. Once the money printing stops, the music stops and reality is going to hit hard.


Cliffs:

USA decided in 1970 and UN decided in 1991 that USA should become a post-prosperity nation and adopted policy to get rid all its industry, sending it overseas to Eastern Europe, Latin America and East Asia.


USA still has some industry but it is almost entirely based on natural wealth, pulling wealth out of the ground, such as coal/oil/gas. There is virtually no big industry left in the US which relies on human capital rather than natural capital.

Takes a lot more skill to build a car than to dig a lump of coal out of the ground. So the high-skill industry is gone, probably permanently (ex. for next 250 years). All the USA is left with is low-skill industry such as farming, fruit picking, coal mining, gas and oil drilling. Fruit picking isn't really an American industry though, as 75% of the workers are 'undocumented migrants' and almost 50% of their pay goes back to their families in central America, out of the US economy.

[surf junkie]

Are we all just going to pretend to ignore the true GOAT german cars? I think the
Jetta/golf have the best all around reliablity/quality. I've had my jetta for 340k and only gave it up after a collision (which it survived, those things are tanks)

I own a dodge now with only 150k and it's giving me much more trouble. Will never get another american


Germans are the true master engineers

The only real advancement in automobiles in the last 15 years has come from software engineers. Cars look and perform more or less the same as they did in 1950. The combustion engine is virtually the same, no significant engineering advances have been made until the microprocessor and coding solutions to mechanical problems.

[thefullmonte]

The "why" is relatively simple....the Manufactuing technology used to make precision components of automobiles originated in Japan, and simply put.....they've been doing it a LOT longer.

While cars take a certain level of precision, outside of the motor, and drive components, they have nothing on the complexity involved in building those CNC machines. That "tribal knowledge" finds it's way in to how they build automobiles as well.

The parallels between the country/continent and the automobiles and CNCs they produce is pretty amazing. European machine tools have a big "technology" advantage over their Japanese counterparts.....but when they break, it's bad, and EXPENSIVE to fix.

American machine tools.....cheap to buy, cheap to work on, but last half as long as their Japanese counterparts.

Our last 7 cars have been American made.....but I have a tremendous amount of respect for the products the Japanese make.

[apdodopa4]

Because Japan > USA.


Culture.
Girls.
Food.
Technology.
Entertainment.
Innovation.
Education.
Hard work


<<<< Japan

[tcpombomb]

Are we all just going to pretend to ignore the true GOAT german cars? I think the
Jetta/golf have the best all around reliablity/quality. I've had my jetta for 340k and only gave it up after a collision (which it survived, those things are tanks)

I own a dodge now with only 150k and it's giving me much more trouble. Will never get another american


Germans are the true master engineers

Repped. I was a Japanese fanboy until I went VW and never looked back.

[LN11]

Jap cars are fantastic.
incredibly reliable.
But Germans.
The Germans are the masters.

[thefullmonte]

Jap cars are fantastic.
incredibly reliable.
But Germans.
The Germans are the masters.

Entirely dependent upon what you're looking for....

My best friend was a certified Audi mechanic, who later bought the dealership he was working at. His exact quote when I almost bought one was "if you're going to own an Audi....you better either be rich as phuk, or be a mechanic."

[FFailed]

Vw and Audi owner checking in. Both cars are/were a joke with how badly they drink oil.

[2RDEYE]

because they build gundams and other mechas in secret

[AJPa]

never buy japanese though if you live in a real snowy are all their recent models have the worst anit brake lock and traction control systems ever, you can't turn them off and they make it impossible to drive safely unless you drive like a grandma, if your car starts skidding it locks the steering wheel

[LiftBig315]

They've just had their quality control program together for longer than the competition. Now that six sigma and programs like that are common practice everybody is getting better and better.

[LN11]

Entirely dependent upon what you're looking for....

My best friend was a certified Audi mechanic, who later bought the dealership he was working at. His exact quote when I almost bought one was "if you're going to own an Audi....you better either be rich as phuk, or be a mechanic."

Aye I've heard Audi can be tricky and parts are priced quite high end so you're forking out so I'd go BMW with regards to reliability.
Been driving VW for 5 years now and I've never had either of my golfs not start first time , or ever break down for that matter.
In a crash too they are like Rocks , Being in VW saved my life once according to the mechanic who took the car from the site of the incident. Which is why they'd get the nod over the mostly paper thin Japaneese varieties.

[Gt3x24x7]

I love my Honda Accord as a daily driver. But if given the chance and money isn't an issue, would much rather have an old skool American muscle from the 1960s and early 70s. Those were the golden age of American cars in my opinion

[CMDaddy88]

Because there are tiny Japanese children inside the engine working for pennies

Reminds me of that scene in Snowpiercer

[chitkunt]