why do strongmen squat their deadlifts up?

[spicewood1990]

why is it that majority of WSM competitors who dont have a powerlifting background seem to squat the weight up by getting their hips really low before pulling

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any benefit in doing it this way during meets?

[lancs_hotpot]

They end up pulling from the usual deadlift position. Maybe its a way of engaging the glutes and quads more.

[spicewood1990]

They end up pulling from the usual deadlift position. Maybe its a way of engaging the glutes and quads more.

might have to start playing around with it see how i get on

brian shaw has to have one of the most unconventional deadlift styles going yet hes an animal

he pulls really wide stance and then his arms are almost out in a partial snatch width

i guess being the giant he is and pulling in this manner shortens the distance the bar has to travel

[IngeKJ]

The lockout is less of a problem in strongman because you can hitch the bar up to lockout, so whatever is the most efficient way to get the bar to your knees is what theyll do, brian shaw takes that to an extreme

[scotpak1979]

Great question. Would love to hear more views. I find this way helps me get more leg drive and stops me stiff legging it when doing a max attempt.

[kennycroxdale]

why is it that majority of WSM competitors who dont have a powerlifting background seem to squat the weight up by getting their hips really low before pulling

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any benefit in doing it this way during meets?

They Do NOT Squat The Weight Up

As lancs_hotpot stated, leg drive is engaged in the quarter squat position, NOT from parallel or below parallel position.

There is NO loading in the low squat position!

Eddie Hall

His deadlift would NEVER pass in a sanctioned powerlifting meet.

He hitches the bar at the top. Weak glutes is his problem.

Kenny Croxdale

[kennycroxdale]

Great question. Would love to hear more views. I find this way helps me get more leg drive and stops me stiff legging it when doing a max attempt.

Momentum

Actually, I believe there is some benefit with it.

I see someone like getting a "Running Start" at the weight.

Grip and Rip

I began using the "Grip and Rip" method back in 1988 seeing it.

You dip down, grab the bar and pull it as hard and fast as you can.

Kenny Croxdale

[spicewood1990]

Momentum

Actually, I believe there is some benefit with it.

I see someone like getting a "Running Start" at the weight.

Grip and Rip

I began using the "Grip and Rip" method back in 1988 seeing it.

You dip down, grab the bar and pull it as hard and fast as you can.

Kenny Croxdale

Thanks for the in depth answer, clears things up, yes i agree eddies pull would be triple red light but then most strongman events your allowed straps and hitching, ive seen guys like derek poundstone rest the bar accross his knees whilst deadlifting and making it into an almost two part lift

its a tricky one finding the right balance between RIPPING the bar off the ground risking injury like someone such as george leeman or pulling in a more technical manner like someone such as johnnie candito or brett gibbs

so by the sounds of things this strongman technique style of pulling minus the hitch is probably still not optimal for adding to your deadlift max in a meet

[NorthStrong]

Eddie Hall is not trying to have his deadlifts pass in a powerlifting competition, since he competes in strongman competitions...I'll let him know about the weak glutes though.

[scotpak1979]

They Do NOT Squat The Weight Up

As lancs_hotpot stated, leg drive is engaged in the quarter squat position, NOT from parallel or below parallel position.

There is NO loading in the low squat position!

Eddie Hall

His deadlift would NEVER pass in a sanctioned powerlifting meet.

He hitches the bar at the top. Weak glutes is his problem.

Kenny Croxdale

Eddie hall has weak glutes??? A bit harsh? He is deadlifting close to the all time raw world record. A dont think he has a weak muscle in his body.

[308smk]

Eddie Hall
Weak glutes is his problem.

Hoooooly fuk you're retarded.

[kennycroxdale]

Thanks for the in depth answer, clears things up, yes i agree eddies pull would be triple red light but then most strongman events your allowed straps and hitching, ive seen guys like derek poundstone rest the bar accross his knees whilst deadlifting and making it into an almost two part lift

its a tricky one finding the right balance between RIPPING the bar off the ground risking injury like someone such as george leeman or pulling in a more technical manner like someone such as johnnie candito or brett gibbs

Learning Curve

Yes, there's a learning curve with the Grip and Rip method. It took me a while to learn it.

If you try try to pull the weight off the floor too fast you get a whip lash effect.
so by the sounds of things this strongman technique style of pulling minus the hitch is probably still not optimal for adding to your deadlift max in a meet

Yes

It should help you a little.

Kenny Croxdale

[kennycroxdale]

Eddie hall has weak glutes??? A bit harsh? He is deadlifting close to the all time raw world record. A dont think he has a weak muscle in his body.

Harsh But True

The glutes are the key to driving the hip though and standing up straight at the top part of the pull.

Eddie's inability to finish with a smooth pull at the top indicates weak glutes.

Thus, to finish the top part of his pull, he has to rest the bar on his thighs, then pull back.

"You Don't Think..."

Thinking = Guessing. Guessing means you don't know.

If Eddiie's glutes were stronger, there would have been NO hitching.

Kenny Croxdale

[kennycroxdale]

Hoooooly fuk you're retarded.

Well, one of us is. And it's not me.

Kenny Croxdale

[kennycroxdale]

Eddie Hall is not trying to have his deadlifts pass in a powerlifting competition, since he competes in strongman competitions...

Strongman Competition

If the rules are getting it up any way you can, then it's a good lift.

I am fine with that.

I'll let him know about the weak glutes though.

Eddie Already Knows

This isn't Eddie's first rodeo. Eddie is really good with his hitching.

That because he does it a lot to finish the top part of his pull.

Top End Rack Pulls

Eddie probably works his glutes with top end rack pulls which place the workload on diving the hip forward via the glutes.

If he isn't using Rack Pulls, he needs to.

Also, with that additional Hip Extension movements would help.

Kenny Croxdale

[scotpak1979]

I get your point. Perhaps on a relative basis to his all-round strength perhaps his glutes are weak. But I bet they are still stronger than most people on this planet.
In this vid he does 400kg (880lbs) for 5 reps without a belt. Only hitches the last rep.

[kennycroxdale]

I get your point. Perhaps on a relative basis to his all-round strength perhaps his glutes are weak. But I bet they are still stronger than most people on this planet.
In this vid he does 400kg (880lbs) for 5 reps without a belt. Only hitches the last rep.

Absolutely

Eddie is amazingly strong. No doubt about that.

Kenny Croxdale

[railgunner22]

Eddie hall has weak glutes. Fuking lol