Net Neutrality passes. FCC approval is done.

[HELIX35]

http://www.engadget.com/2015/02/26/fcc-net-neutrality/

“This is no more a plan to regulate the Internet than the First Amendment is a plan to regulate free speech."

-Chairman Wheeler.

inb4 people who have absolutely zero understanding of the issue knee jerk to their classic "but teh gubmint!"

[tsbalr120]

http://www.engadget.com/2015/02/26/fcc-net-neutrality/



inb4 people who have absolutely zero understanding of the issue knee jerk to their classic "but teh gubmint!"

I understand people's concerns of giving the feds the power to control your internet, but right now cable companies are being huge kunts. Glad it passed.

[kenonator]

This was only the first battle of a long war. The next battle will take place in the courts.

[HELIX35]

I understand people's concerns of giving the feds the power to control your internet, but right now cable companies are being huge kunts. Glad it passed.

This does not give the feds the power to control your internet

[pimpinbig]

This does not give the feds the power to control your internet

Dude, dont even try to explain. I made the mistake of trying to explain the technical issues in this thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...6533281&page=6

Evidently they believe that due to net neutrality:
1) "If Jamal in the inner city or Cleetus on the back 40 can't get 50mb/s for $30 a month you're going to have to pay for it."

[tsbalr120]

This does not give the feds the power to control your internet

They are in control of stopping cable companies from slowing your speeds down. Give an inch...

[Tekkendo]

The devil is in the details. Now comes the rules writing part. Guess the lobbyists will be laughing to the bank.

[pimpinbig]

They are in control of stopping cable companies from slowing your speeds down. Give an inch...

jesus christ on a stick. no they are not.

I am 100% convinced people on this forum are purposely being obtuse.

[tsbalr120]

jesus christ on a stick. no they are not.

I am 100% convinced people on this forum are purposely being obtuse.

Do you have a link? Would like to read up on it.

[Sakeoe]

I think the Americans opposed to net neutrality have never set foot outside of the US in their lives.

Like seriously your internet infrastructure is on par with that of other developed counters............................... in the late 90s early 2000s.

[Jryt]

They are in control of stopping cable companies from slowing your speeds down. Give an inch...

They are prevented from slowing the speed of your connection down dependent on what you are accessing. They can slow down your entire connection if they want, or put data caps on it, just not change your internet speed depending what you want to look at.

[LlamaLG]

I think the Americans opposed to net neutrality have never set foot outside of the US in their lives.

Like seriously your internet infrastructure is on par with that of other developed counters............................... in the late 90s early 2000s.

This isn't going to make it more easier for ISP's to compete with each other. It isn't going to increase speeds, it isn't going to make better customer service. The problem with America's internet is that we have no competition from over regulation of broadband services. This ruling does absolutely nothing to promote competition or remove red tape.

Congratulations, you might not get throttled(maybe) but you can now enjoy 15 Mbps internet from Comcast, Verizon or AT&T for more money.

[tsbalr120]

here's a video that does a half decent job of explaining the concept in under 2 minutes

http://www.cnn.com/videos/cnnmoney/2...ained.cnnmoney

better article that isn't writing in tech terms http://www.businessinsider.com/net-n...cts-you-2014-1

and in picture format if you're really lazy http://www.theopeninter.net/

Thanks, repped

[Tripinn]

Also in for people who know nothing about net neutrality other than what they heard on the radio talk about how this is a bad thing because the government was involved in it. Fuk comcast.

What is wrong with Comcast? I've been getting there service for over a decade now and have nothing but positive feed back.

[Sakeoe]

What is wrong with Comcast? I've been getting there service for over a decade now and have nothing but positive feed back.

Post speedtest and how much you pay

http://www.speedtest.net/

[pimpinbig]

Do you have a link? Would like to read up on it.

Sorry I really thought you were being obtuse. WSJ has an excellent video explaining it:
http://www.wsj.com/video/net-neutral...0CE25E64D.html


Their analogy with fedex is spot on. Say for example YOU pay for 2nd day shipping to have a product delivered. However Fedex sees the package is from Amazon, so they purposely deliver the package late. YOU paid for 2nd day delivery.
FedEx continues to deliver Amazon packages later and later. Until finally Amazon pays Fedex money to deliver their packages on time. Keep in mind...YOU paid for the 2nd day delivery charge.

In this case the delivery charge is your broadband fee. You pay $45 to comcast to provide a 10mbit service with a 250GB data cap. Once you reach that datacap, doesnt matter if its netflix, pornhub, whatever, Comcast can cut you off.
Instead what comcast did was slow down Netflix to ruin your customer experience with netflix. You already paid for the bandwidth and data. Since netflix became choppy, you call netflix to complain. After a while, netflix got so many complaints, the paid a fee to Comcast to have the throttle removed.

in the Verizon case, Netflix paid the fee, then Verizon throttled it again. Thats when the FCC became involved.

[chevy72blu]

Has the full text of the decision been released yet? The 300+ page document? No? Then how the fuk does anyone have an opinion on whether it was good or bad?

Both sides are claiming talking points from their team.

[BaronOBeefDerp]

So

censorship of the internet by the kunt government

vs

censorship of the internet by greedy kunt ISPs who will act like the government and make you pay for it*































































































































































*post not meant to be taken seriously

[tsbalr120]

Sorry I really thought you were being obtuse. WSJ has an excellent video explaining it:
http://www.wsj.com/video/net-neutral...0CE25E64D.html


Their analogy with fedex is spot on. Say for example YOU pay for 2nd day shipping to have a product delivered. However Fedex sees the package is from Amazon, so they purposely deliver the package late. YOU paid for 2nd day delivery.
FedEx continues to deliver Amazon packages later and later. Until finally Amazon pays Fedex money to deliver their packages on time. Keep in mind...YOU paid for the 2nd day delivery charge.

In this case the delivery charge is your broadband fee. You pay $45 to comcast to provide a 10mbit service with a 250GB data cap. Once you reach that datacap, doesnt matter if its netflix, pornhub, whatever, Comcast can cut you off.
Instead what comcast did was slow down Netflix to ruin your customer experience with netflix. You already paid for the bandwidth and data. Since netflix became choppy, you call netflix to complain. After a while, netflix got so many complaints, the paid a fee to Comcast to have the throttle removed.

in the Verizon case, Netflix paid the fee, then Verizon throttled it again. Thats when the FCC became involved.

Interesting.

I guess I fell for the incorrect talking points on this one. Thanks for the link.

[vegito69]

RIP the Internet.
This just opens the door for the government to control the Internet.
inb4 FBI kicks down our door for searching the word "freedom"

Oh shut the fuk up already.

[illriginalized]

Believe it has to go through congress.
Best believe FCC is going to be facing lawsuits by the corporations.

[Sakeoe]

Post speedtest and how much you pay

http://www.speedtest.net/

pls respond tripinn

[Spartan5364]

Post speedtest and how much you pay

http://www.speedtest.net/

20Mbps

like 76$ a month or so

not sure what that means but I'm peppering my angus for brahs laughing at me

edit:
I tried again and now have 25 and 6 for upload

[illriginalized]

pls respond tripinn

speedtest.net takes money to fake your bandwidth/speeds

true story.

best way to test speed of internet is command line but that's another topic.

[Sakeoe]

20Mbps

like 76$ a month or so

not sure what that means but I'm peppering my angus for brahs laughing at me

Included in the rent of my apartment. Normally something like 45-60 euro.

[pimpinbig]

Interesting.

I guess I fell for the incorrect talking points on this one. Thanks for the link.

I believe part of the problem is the debate over net neutrality was not explained properly by either side. Up until recently most of the companies had voluntary peering agreements.

One thing that should be noted: Netflix was paying Level 3 to route their traffic. Level 3 had purchased transit from Comcast. Early last year, Comcast slowed all Netflix traffic going over the Level 3 transit. Then approached Netflix and said: Route your traffic directly with us, pay us an additional fee and we will treat your traffic equally. Netflix finally agreed, however they were still on the hook for the level 3 contract.

The Verizon case was different. There is a large volume of evidence they have continued to slow netflix traffic even after Netflix paid a fee to have their traffic treated equally. <--- That triggered the FCC intervention due to many industry experts raising the alarm that this type of behavior could cripple peering agreements.

Comcast has been the most vocal about Net Neutrality because their non-compete clause they signed when they purchased NBC expires 2018. That clause forbids Comcast from expediting NBC streaming traffic. Without NN, after 2018, it was Comcasts intention to throttle competitors traffic while expediting NBC streaming traffic.

[Spartan5364]

Included in the rent of my apartment. Normally something like 45-60 euro.

interdasting
never thought mine was slow, never buffers or anything, can stream chit all day long

[Powers]

RIP the Internet.
This just opens the door for the government to control the Internet.
inb4 FBI kicks down our door for searching the word "freedom"

Meanwhile in reality the technology and internet community applauds the decision. One step closer to the internet we need. Neutral, free from censorship and open access to all.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/26/81...ernet-title-ii

http://www.wired.com/2015/02/fcc-vot...et-neutrality/

I swear some people here would have raised hell about the bill of rights back in the day.

[Goby]

Meanwhile in reality the technology and internet community applauds the decision. One step closer to the internet we need. Neutral, free from censorship and open access to all.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/26/81...ernet-title-ii

http://www.wired.com/2015/02/fcc-vot...et-neutrality/

I swear some people here would have raised hell about the bill of rights back in the day.

Yes mainstream media is totally reliable and not at all backed by the same globalists that run/ruin the world.

[leafs43]

The gov't and those paying ISPs for fast lanes took your fears of some consumer unfriendly companies (telecoms), spun a tale into a hypothetical reality and sold it to you so they could anoint themselves more power and line their own pockets.


Not only did eat it right up, you defended them doing it.


And the ironic thing is, telecoms didn't even fight because with this framework in place, you just cemented them as monopolies.


Bravo!