The Official Powerlifting and Strongman Family Appreciation Thread: Part XVIII

[NorthStrong]

I've got two pairs of SBDs...XL and XXL. Wear XXL when not in meet prep/offseason/volume training, XL for meet prep/heavy raw.

sometimes I don't want to put my XLs on and wear the XXL when warming up before wrapping.

I also has 4 pairs of the same knee wrap. One for warmup room and one for each attempt. So I don't have to stretch roll the same pair three times.

The wraps I can understand, but do you think that you actually get any lbs out of the smaller pair vs the larger pair?

You're also totalling over 2k, and even if it is a few lbs I can see why you'd try the smaller sleeves totaling like 1200 in sleeves should probably just get a hell of a lot stronger before worrying about 5lbs from a smaller pair of sleeves (imo).

[SPFjudge]

Also, I've never met any raw lifter that really fancies themselves 'more hardcore' or superior.

Yes you have.

[SPFjudge]

You're also totalling over 2k, and even if it is a few lbs I can see why you'd try the smaller sleeves totaling like 1200 in sleeves should probably just get a hell of a lot stronger before worrying about 5lbs from a smaller pair of sleeves (imo).

Bear Mod doesn't want anyone to know this but, He only squats 405 with the XXL pair. The XL pair probably give him at least 300 lbs

[Rags85]

I also has 4 pairs of the same knee wrap. One for warmup room and one for each attempt. So I don't have to stretch roll the same pair three times.

Ever use one of these? http://www.amazon.com/Powerlifting-K.../dp/B00GA7Z002

I was thinking it'd be easier and more consistent. I was at a seminar with Kimberly Walford this past weekend and she recommended a knee wrap roller.

[isaku900]

The wraps I can understand, but do you think that you actually get any lbs out of the smaller pair vs the larger pair?

You're also totalling over 2k, and even if it is a few lbs I can see why you'd try the smaller sleeves totaling like 1200 in sleeves should probably just get a hell of a lot stronger before worrying about 5lbs from a smaller pair of sleeves (imo).

No I don't get any actual poundage out of the sleeves. The poundage from tight sleeves doesn't come from energy transfer from the material, but from proprioception and better activation due to you knowing exactly where your knees are in space. This lets you push harder because its easier to stabilize/align the knee in space and lets you maintain your form better. I use the tighter pair with heavier weights because my knees is fragile and I get more compression from a tighter sleeve, keeping swelling out of the joint and keeping my quads activated.

I total over 2k in wraps...in sleeves I'd estimate my squat in the 722-733 range (based on rep maxes) on a 9/9 day I could maybe hit 2k in sleeves only...but I've never gone 9/9.

Ever use one of these? http://www.amazon.com/Powerlifting-K.../dp/B00GA7Z002

I was thinking it'd be easier and more consistent. I was at a seminar with Kimberly Walford this past weekend and she recommended a knee wrap roller.

yea Boss has three, and I use them effectively. I still don't want to be futzing with them while I'm between attempts. I'd rather be breathing.


On a completely unrelated note, I'm gonna close the thread this afternoon and start a next part.

I'm having surgery tomorrow and won't be able to monitor the post count effectively.

[Rags85]

yea Boss has three, and I use them effectively. I still don't want to be futzing with them while I'm between attempts. I'd rather be breathing.


On a completely unrelated note, I'm gonna close the thread this afternoon and start a next part.

I'm having surgery tomorrow and won't be able to monitor the post count effectively.

Makes sense. Maybe I'll get a wrap roller for myself as an Christmas gift to me. I don't lift with anyone who can wrap me and by the time I get to the bar my forearms and thumbs are throbbing and I'm breathing like I just sprinted to the damn bar.

Good luck tomorrow, Hope it all works out.

[NorthStrong]

I'd estimate my squat in the 722-733 range (based on rep maxes)

is this based on the Isaku equation of

1rm = 1rm?

GL at surgery big man.

[JamesG6626]

Yes you have.

Oh? Idk man, I guess I can't know what people think obv. but it seems like raw lifters catch a lot of hate for lifting raw and I've just never seen people acting like diks because of how others lift lol... But I follow all of 2 people on youtube and 2-3 on FB and don't even have an instagram acct, and still to this day haven't seen a pair of sbd anything where I train so what do I know I must be missing out.

[isaku900]

is this based on the Isaku equation of

1rm = 1rm?

GL at surgery big man.

lol no that's an actual estimate based off of triples at 661 and an easy single at 683.

[EthanHun]

Any of you do any yoga/stretches to help with your powerlifting?

[TheIronAsylum]

yea i didnt feel much when trying the sbds on and squatting with it and at 90$ bucks wasnt really sure as iv never wrapped or used sleeves. however i do feel like one of my knees hasnt been tracking or feeling different lately?


also what about those new slingshot sleeves?

[FunkymonkAW]

yea i didnt feel much when trying the sbds on and squatting with it and at 90$ bucks wasnt really sure as iv never wrapped or used sleeves. however i do feel like one of my knees hasnt been tracking or feeling different lately?


also what about those new slingshot sleeves?

Seems like a few people have more problems with sleeves than without. Brandon Campbell says the STrong sleeves (new ones) are basically the same as SBDs except for the straight vs. slanted seams.

Not sure about the "old" slingshot sleeves, other than I've heard they are closer to Rehands than SBDs.

[arian11]

No I don't get any actual poundage out of the sleeves. The poundage from tight sleeves doesn't come from energy transfer from the material, but from proprioception and better activation due to you knowing exactly where your knees are in space.

To be fair, wouldn't science dictate that the sleeves are causing a deceleration of knee flexion and an acceleration of knee extension after the rebound. It may be so small of an amount that it's negligible, but it's still there

[isaku900]

To be fair, wouldn't science dictate that the sleeves are causing a deceleration of knee flexion and an acceleration of knee extension after the rebound. It may be so small of an amount that it's negligible, but it's still there

I could see a deceleration of knee flexion due to bunching of the fabric, but the non-stretch neoprene wouldn't retain any of that energy. Without retention of the energy I don't think there'd be any acceleration of knee extension from the fabric unbunching.

I believe one could argue that any non-zero effect of the knee sleeve would serve to reduce force production by robbing downward acceleration into the stretch-shortening cycle and siphon off energy from knee extension to unbunch the fabric.

LIFTING WITH SLEEVES IS HARDER AND THEREFORE MORE HARDCORE!!!!

[arian11]

I could see a deceleration of knee flexion due to bunching of the fabric, but the non-stretch neoprene wouldn't retain any of that energy. Without retention of the energy I don't think there'd be any acceleration of knee extension from the fabric unbunching.

I believe one could argue that any non-zero effect of the knee sleeve would serve to reduce force production by robbing downward acceleration into the stretch-shortening cycle and siphon off energy from knee extension to unbunch the fabric.

LIFTING WITH SLEEVES IS HARDER AND THEREFORE MORE HARDCORE!!!!

So would you think similarly of reverse band squats? The reverse bands reduce force production by robbing downward acceleration into the stretch-shortening cycle. But the bands will actually store energy and return it to the bar during the positive phase.

[LessThanLuke]

My fiance saw me watching this and said "**** that looked easy".

Haha that's what everyone said to me. Didn't feel like that though. Getting more and more confident of hitting 900@231 at some point though.

[isaku900]

But the bands will actually store energy and return it to the bar during the positive phase.

and that's the key difference, bands (and wraps) store energy from the deceleration (like the regenerative brakes on a hybrid car?) and then release it back into your system.

[arn710]

I've got two pairs of SBDs...XL and XXL. Wear XXL when not in meet prep/offseason/volume training, XL for meet prep/heavy raw.

I do the same except with a pair of Rehbands and the tighter SBDs

[Larfleeze]

Haha that's what everyone said to me. Didn't feel like that though. Getting more and more confident of hitting 900@231 at some point though.

Ever thought of doing a pl meet? Surely that'd be a UK record dl

[michael_xyz]

In for Luke vs Tom Martin.

[LessThanLuke]

Ever thought of doing a pl meet? Surely that'd be a UK record dl

If Tom didn't exist probably.

In for Luke vs Tom Martin.

We'll be going head to head next year hopefully at the World Deadlift Champs (high possibility of them running a 105kg comp next year alongside the big boys)

[FunkymonkAW]

Anyone have a recommendation for a knee wrap roller?

[SPFjudge]

Anyone have a recommendation for a knee wrap roller?

Clamp type
http://www.quest-nutrition.com/store...?idproduct=206

Stand alone type
http://www.texasstrengthsystems.com/...ee-wrap-roller

[NorthStrong]

for all of the strongman fam

what are your favourite gym lifts for strongman?

squatting, deadlifting, overhead pressing of all kinds i'm sure, but besides that, or if you have a favouirte kind of squat etc. curious to see the answers.

[arian11]

and that's the key difference, bands (and wraps) store energy from the deceleration (like the regenerative brakes on a hybrid car?) and then release it back into your system.

Yea. Was just thinking that reverse band squats might be bad for a fast descending squatter since the bands are taking away some of the inertia and decreasing stretch-shortening cycle.

[martin_mathers]

Gf got me SBD sleeves for Christmas last year, I don't even use them anymore. They're her knee sleeves now. I should ask her to buy me a wrap roller this year.

[martin_mathers]

Sumo brahs: is there any merit to pulling with a grip wider than your arms straight down? Gripped the bar a bit wider today on a few working sets and they all felt much better at lockout, which was weird because I pretty much increased the ROM.

[Larfleeze]

Plugged my numbers into Candito's 6 week calc..not a chance in hell I could do even half of the first week of squats yet the bench and deadlifts look pretty easy throughout..confused.

Sumo brahs: is there any merit to pulling with a grip wider than your arms straight down? Gripped the bar a bit wider today on a few working sets and they all felt much better at lockout, which was weird because I pretty much increased the ROM.

Maybe because you can get your lats engaged better with a slightly wider grip?

[martin_mathers]

Maybe because you can get your lats engaged better with a slightly wider grip?

Holy shiit. Never thought of it that way.

[NorthStrong]

Sumo brahs: is there any merit to pulling with a grip wider than your arms straight down? Gripped the bar a bit wider today on a few working sets and they all felt much better at lockout, which was weird because I pretty much increased the ROM.

I pull conventional but I find the wider grip more comfortable since my knees push way out to the side anyway.

And a lot of sumo pullers who pull with a super close grip (think like duffin with straps) can never actually fully lockout because they cant pull their arms back and they just end up standing up but hunched over, or with unlocked hips.