Let's be real right quick... No guns = less violence (very serious).

[holtmcg]

Yes OP. Let's just make guns illegal that way criminals still get their illegal access to guns meanwhile everyone else is defenseless. Strong logic.

I always LOL when people use this argument. Take a look at the UK, Aussieland and all of Europe. Rarely (VERY RARELY) do people use guns.


Dumb, you are very.

[RIKTER]

Yes OP. Let's just make guns illegal that way criminals still get their illegal access to guns meanwhile everyone else is defenseless. Strong logic.

Thats wrong, do you know how hard it is for these same criminals to get crack/coke, etc and we've only spend hundreds of billions making them illegal..

[MamaAfrica]

I love the 2nd Amendment and I have a concealed handgun license, but if you were to strip citizens of their guns, I guarantee violence would go down a TON. It's proven.

then the only people left with guns are the bad guys.

Fact of the matter is no country with people owning weapons is ever gunna be safe. America is stuck in an endless cycle

[Roody12]

Brah they're gonna run you out of Texas .. Pls stay safe.

INB4 Jeb, Dale and Billy-Bob show up.

[nutsy54]

I love the 2nd Amendment and I have a concealed handgun license, but if you were to strip citizens of their guns, I guarantee violence would go down a TON. It's proven.

How is it "proven", when the exact opposite has happened in the US over the past few decades?

Legal ownership and concealed carry has expanded to almost every state in the US, while violent crime and murder rates have plummeted by 50%.

[Smob3]

[ConnorThornbury]

How is it "proven", when the exact opposite has happened in the US over the past few decades?

Legal ownership and concealed carry has expanded to almost every state in the US, while violent crime and murder rates have plummeted by 50%.

Boom.. Argue with that OP

[PepperedAngus]

I always LOL when people use this argument. Take a look at the UK, Aussieland and all of Europe. Rarely (VERY RARELY) do people use guns.


Dumb, you are very.

So those *******s who shot up France recently must have just thrown rocks really really hard?

[SPARTAAAAA]

I'm talking about gun violence, dummy. That has nothing to do with stabbings and knife related crime.

it was a direct result. it has everything to do with gun control.

[AVOJAMACADA]

Exactly.. But what criminal will suddenly follow the law? "Ohh, owning a gun is now illegal, better give this 9mm I've been carrying the last 3 years illegally to the government!" Banning guns will take them away from the people who actually need them.
(American with a closet of guns, lol)

True story. And sadly in pussy canada if u shot someone in defence in your home, you would get in way more shyte then the criminals. Srs.

[BrocepCurls]

So those *******s who shot up France recently must have just thrown rocks really really hard?

If we can't get rid of 100% of violence and make the world a fairy filled utopia, it's not worth doing anything at all.

Logic.

[Thankless]

The only fix is to give every citizen a gun when they file their taxes.

crime will be at an all time low

[holtmcg]

it was a direct result. it has everything to do with gun control.

Except it doesn't.

[BioDiver]

I always LOL when people use this argument. Take a look at the UK, Aussieland and all of Europe. Rarely (VERY RARELY) do people use guns.


Dumb, you are very.

The UK doesn't have the "cartel infested third world neighbor" that the US does. It's much easier to get guns illegally in the US than it is in the UK.

[holtmcg]

So those *******s who shot up France recently must have just thrown rocks really really hard?

Hahahaha. Look at gun crime in America compared to France.



Smart, you are not very.

[Swood94]

Except it doesn't.

How the phuck not? When violent crime rises after gun bans are put into place there is a direct correlation.

No logic...

Hahahaha. Look at gun crime in America compared to France.



Smart, you are not very.

Simple minded **** looking at only gun crime. Gun crime going down doesn't mean gun control works. If gun control worked all crime would go down. When gun control is put in place all other violent crime goes up.

[rhadam]

This topic is new and exciting.

I'd ask people to not respond to OP's *******ry but that's obviously not possible.

[Thankless]

Hahahaha. Look at gun crime in America compared to France.



Smart, you are not very.

You're seriously comparing France to the US?

We have 5 times the population and guns are to US what baguettes and berets are to France.

Nations with stringent anti-gun laws generally have substantially higher murder rates than those that do not

[entropy1]

srs question, do you guys actually live in fear of home invasion etc that you need to get guns to defend your self? Is it that common? Or just a fear that's been instilled by pro gun parties? In Australia it's really not even a consideration, like I just bought my first house, I'm probably not going to bother moving my guns from dads house

[Devine88]

Ignorant gun opinions...

Going to go disassemble and clean a firearm now to calm down.

[holtmcg]

You're seriously comparing France to the US?

We have 5 times the population and guns are to US what baguettes and berets are to France.

Doesn't matter. Look at their gun crime per capita. Way lower than the US.



lmao @ trying to use the population argument

[Farley1324]

Their gun violence is waaaaay, waaaaay down. You stupid?

Their violence and homicide went UP. You ignorant?

Doesn't matter. Look at their gun crime per capita. Way lower than the US.



lmao @ trying to use the population argument

"Gun crime" lol, BRB, all crime that is committed with something other than a gun doesn't count all of the sudden.

How many defensive gun uses do you have in AUS each year? 0.5? LMAO

[holtmcg]

srs question, do you guys actually live in fear of home invasion etc that you need to get guns to defend your self? Is it that common? Or just a fear that's been instilled by pro gun parties? In Australia it's really not even a consideration, like I just bought my first house, I'm probably not going to bother moving my guns from dads house

As an American, it's been jammed down our throats our entire lives.

[holtmcg]

Their violence and homicide went UP. You ignorant?

gun violence. gun violence. gun violence.


Can you read? (srs question)




Actually, I don't think I want to know the answer to that.

[BrocepCurls]

Nations with stringent anti-gun laws generally have substantially higher murder rates than those that do not

Er, what?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._homicide_rate

I challenge you to put these countries in order of homicide from lowest to highest, and then look up the firearm laws of the nations with the lowest homicide rates in the world (let's say, 1 per 100k and under). Call it an educational experience.

Also look up where America lies in comparison, just for good measure.

[Thankless]

srs question, do you guys actually live in fear of home invasion etc that you need to get guns to defend your self? Is it that common? Or just a fear that's been instilled by pro gun parties? In Australia it's really not even a consideration, like I just bought my first house, I'm probably not going to bother moving my guns from dads house

If I lived in a crime ridden neighborhood why would I not want to protect myself and my family with a weapon that keeps me at a fair distance?

I think it's far wiser to have a gun and not need it than to not have it when you do need it

[Farley1324]

gun violence. gun violence. gun violence.


Can you read? (srs question)




Actually, I don't think I want to know the answer to that.

BRB, if you are murdered with a knife it doesn't count.

lol I was like...aus gonna aus

[iabs]

[Farley1324]

srs question, do you guys actually live in fear of home invasion etc that you need to get guns to defend your self? Is it that common? Or just a fear that's been instilled by pro gun parties? In Australia it's really not even a consideration, like I just bought my first house, I'm probably not going to bother moving my guns from dads house

Do you live in rear of a car accident or a house fire?

Or do you not wear your seat belt and not own smoke alarms and not own fire extinguishers?

srs question

[Roody12]

Their violence and homicide went UP. You ignorant?

I'd say its been pretty consistent.

Homicide per 100000 (Any means gun/knife/tickle fight)...
2012: 1.24
2011: 1.05
2010: 1.20
2009: 1.28
2008: 1.19
2007: 1.04
2006: 1.25
2005: 0.98
2004: 0.82
2003: 1.41
2002: 1.49
2001: 1.55
2000: 1.78