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    Just started implementing higher carbs

    Hello bruhs,

    After about 7 weeks of dieting on low carbs(50 or less) and high fats(over a hundo) to moderately high protons.. I've just started eating some of those sweet, delicious carbohydrates again. I've noticed over the last week even while in my deficit that my weights slowly flucuating upwards. So I'm wondering how long the water retention will take until my body adjust to eating carbs normally again? Right now I'm gonna be taking in about 160 grams of protein, 130 carbs and 70ish fats. I still gotta get dat der Peanut Butter, nomsaiyans? lulz
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    IIRC, when trying to re-introduce carbs in your diet will make you gain "fat" if you do it too fast.

    The water retention would probably be a week or so.

    130 carbs is not high.

    I eat more than you. Wtf. You are consuming so low calories.
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    Originally Posted by AFC96 View Post
    IIRC, when trying to re-introduce carbs in your diet will make you gain "fat" if you do it too fast.

    The water retention would probably be a week or so.

    130 carbs is not high.

    I eat more than you. Wtf. You are consuming so low calories.
    Yeah, I could cut at 2400 kcals if I wanted, but I've dabbled with my macros enough to see what works for me. I've lowered carbs to intake more fat, obviously but thanks m8.
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    Originally Posted by jhskates84 View Post
    Yeah, I could cut at 2400 kcals if I wanted, but I've dabbled with my macros enough to see what works for me. I've lowered carbs to intake more fat, obviously but thanks m8.
    you are eating 1800kcal and you are like 200lbs.. something is wrong with that.
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    Originally Posted by AFC96 View Post
    you are eating 1800kcal and you are like 200lbs.. something is wrong with that.
    Why do you say that? My maintance kcals are 2800-3000 right around there. I subtracted 500, started losing a pound, then another 500. two pounds. I'm eating around 1900 some.
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    Hodge twins cut on 1800 and they are over 200lbs with a good amount of mass, everybody is different.
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    Originally Posted by SubWooferCooker View Post
    Hodge twins cut on 1800 and they are over 200lbs with a good amount of mass, everybody is different.
    Hodge Twins probably eat more than that, may not be 'natural' (not sure because I can't say I have seen a video in a long time of them), and likely lie about their personal intake....
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    Hodge Twins probably eat more than that, may not be 'natural' (not sure because I can't say I have seen a video in a long time of them), and likely lie about their personal intake....
    What he was trying to say was the manlet's acting like a kunt and needs to know his place lulz.... I'll see how long this water retention goes. I can't really see any changes to my physique, so I guess das good mayne
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    Originally Posted by jhskates84 View Post
    What he was trying to say was the manlet's acting like a kunt and needs to know his place lulz.... I'll see how long this water retention goes. I can't really see any changes to my physique, so I guess das good mayne
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    What happens when weight loss stalls ? Go down to 1300 ?

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    Originally Posted by jhskates84 View Post
    What he was trying to say was the manlet's acting like a kunt and needs to know his place lulz.... I'll see how long this water retention goes. I can't really see any changes to my physique, so I guess das good mayne
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    Originally Posted by MetilHed View Post
    What happens when weight loss stalls ? Go down to 1300 ?

    Nice job being a dick to people trying to help you. Solid red all the way.
    Not a forever cut, brah. Jump out of decficit, see how I look.. maintain for awhile. It was piss joke, inb4 not srs
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    Originally Posted by MetilHed View Post
    What happens when weight loss stalls ? Go down to 1300 ?

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    Why would weight loss stall if he's in a deficit? You think his metabolism will be "damaged"?
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    Originally Posted by saw7988 View Post
    Why would weight loss stall if he's in a deficit? You think his metabolism will be "damaged"?
    Not likely, more probably- underestimating calories or counting wrong in some way, most common issue followed by miscalculating TDEE.
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    Not likely, more probably- underestimating calories or counting wrong in some way, most common issue followed by miscalculating TDEE.
    Right, which has nothing to do with choice of caloric intake.
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    Right, which has nothing to do with choice of caloric intake.
    Appreciate the backing, brah. I'm just dabbling with my body right now to see how it adjust to my deficit and choice of macros. Seems to be doing quite well for the last few months, so we'll see how things go the next two.
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    Why do you say that? My maintance kcals are 2800-3000 right around there. I subtracted 500, started losing a pound, then another 500. two pounds. I'm eating around 1900 some.
    According to your original post, you're consuming between 1,790-1,880 calories. For someone with your lean body mass your basal metabolic rate is about 1,940 calories; that's how many calories your body would need if it were comatose. This doesn't include the thermic effect of eating, daily activity, or planned exercise. You're setting yourself up for a metabolic disorder, hormonal imbalance, and are likely losing unnecessary amounts of muscle mass. Calculate your total energy expenditure and subtract calories by 10% every week until you start losing 1 lb, every week. This is a far safer and more beneficiary method to weight loss.
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    Originally Posted by sambshep View Post
    According to your original post, you're consuming between 1,790-1,880 calories. For someone with your lean body mass your basal metabolic rate is about 1,940 calories; that's how many calories your body would need if it were comatose. This doesn't include the thermic effect of eating, daily activity, or planned exercise. You're setting yourself up for a metabolic disorder, hormonal imbalance, and are likely losing unnecessary amounts of muscle mass. Calculate your total energy expenditure and subtract calories by 10% every week until you start losing 1 lb, every week. This is a far safer and more beneficiary method to weight loss.
    This is absolutely ludicrous. First, eating below your BMR is completely irrelevant from a physiological standpoint - it's just used by many on this forum as an indicator of "too large" of a deficit. Second, there's absolutely no reason to think a metabolic disorder or hormonal imbalance will result from eating at a large deficit. There may be a little bit of metabolic ADAPTATION, probably a 10-15% slowdown at WORST, but this should recover completely with a 2-3 week diet break.

    Now, rate of weight loss with respect to muscle mass is possibly a legitimate concern. I think with adequate protein and smart weight training, muscle mass should be pretty minimal even on a large deficit (1000 calories isn't even THAT ridiculous IMO). However, subjectivity can be removed here by monitoring progress in the gym. If the weights are going up, there really should be no concern.

    Now I'm not saying everyone should do as large of a deficit as possible, but your post reads a bit misinformed. Have a look at this article for some more reading: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat...or-large.html/
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