LOL At Crossfit Calling Themselves The Best Athletes In The World

[iloveus]

QUESTION

So you work out your entire body 3-4 times a week? Instead of breaking down each muscle group into different days.

How is this a superior strategy, beyond the intensity of the workouts.

U wot m8? There are full body programs that do 3x a week such as starting strength, strong lifts, Ice Cream Fitness and a bunch others.

[Condyle]

I'll say the same thing here I do every time CF comes up.

CF comes in for hate because CF people preach to other sports, like they have the training key somehow missed over the past 100 years. They do not.

I run a lot, CF types come on running boards lulzing at the scrawny runners, telling them to do HIIT. To prepare for marathons. To recap. High intensity interval training is all you need to be fast in distance races.

So I looked at the results for CF Games, their world championships. Elite athletes - the world's best - at the top of their game. I found 2010. They have a 5k 'race' (it's not even a distance race - I'd *love* to see the 10k or half marathon). Women = 23min and change. I can beat that, and I'm some 34yo, too-fat scrub who runs as a hobby. Men, just under 19min. That gets regularly beaten by skinny teenagers at my local weekly fun run.

The 5k times aren't just not very good, they're atrocious. inb4 they can squat + kip pullups too. Sure. But that's not what the question is. The question is do CF protocols cross over to every facet of endurance training - DO THEY HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS?

lol no. We try to tell them runners have HIIT - intervals, we've called them - for many decades. We also do unstructured interval training to fatigue called fartlek (Swedish for 'speed play'). Nope, our beards weren't bristly enough.

Hell yeah they're douchebags.

[Mumra]

Strong background knowledge, like any miscer cares. But the guys who run the event were told not to use that event, by the head honcho of the event.

They ran it anyway, and yes people got hurt.

There are bad body builders, bad mma trainers, bad tennis coaches. Get over it.

saw this post and thought, "hmm might a a crossfit cult member.". then I saw Bench-205 and Squat 265. Yep crossfit confirmed. lol!

[guyver79]

I'll say the same thing here I do every time CF comes up.

CF comes in for hate because CF people preach to other sports, like they have the training key somehow missed over the past 100 years. They do not.

I run a lot, CF types come on running boards lulzing at the scrawny runners, telling them to do HIIT. Do prepare for marathons. To recap. High intensity interval training is all you need to be fast in distance races.

So I looked at the results for CF Games, their world championships. Elite athletes - the world's best - at the top of their game. I found 2010. They have a 5k 'race' (it's not even a distance race - I'd *love* to see the 10k or half marathon). Women = 23min and change. I can beat that, and I'm some 34yo, too-fat scrub who runs as a hobby. Men, just under 19min. That gets regularly beaten by skinny teenagers at my local weekly fun run.

The 5k times aren't just not very good, they're atrocious. inb4 they can squat + kip pullups too. Sure. But that's not what the question is. The question is do CF protocols cross over to every facet of endurance training - DO THEY HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS?

lol no. We try to tell them runners have HIIT - intervals, we've called them - for many decades. We also do unstructured interval training to fatigue called fartlek (Swedish for 'speed play'). Nope, our beards weren't bristly enough.

Hell yeah they're douchebags.

Actually it's a little bit like that from the "strength" and "5x5" as well as the CF people, to think that they've somehow know something more about hypertrophy or thinking that everyone that is doing a "brosplit" or directly training arms to get big arms is a waste of time!

Brb, but look at Rich Frowning!!!.......

So?

[Dan_S]

You've got to admit though, it seems like they're really good at falling down. Didn't see a single broken wrist or ankle.

QUESTION

So you work out your entire body 3-4 times a week? Instead of breaking down each muscle group into different days.

How is this a superior strategy, beyond the intensity of the workouts.

That's one of the biggest weaknesses of Crossfit. There's no actual "training" going on. It's exercise. The first year or so, yeah, you'll see gains because you were a sedentary piece of crap. But after that, there's no where near enough frequency to make progress. My wife does Crossfit and always talks about how she's not getting better at squats. Well, they squat maybe once every 2-3 weeks. She knows that if she went to the gym she'd get better, but she enjoys Crossfit more than she cares about being better.

[Rousinthehous]

Theres an ambulance that chills right by the crossfit "box" that's near to my house.

Specifically near the area where the crossfitters do power clean/pistol squat hybrid workouts on a balancing ball.

jk about second part

But seriously there's always an injury there

[Thaddy99]

Crossfit is not so popular because of the results of the training, but because it's fun. Crossfit gives them a community and a way of thinking (paleo, gluten free, functional fitness). It's more a cult than a sport or training method.

They call themselves athletes because they do exercises for general fitness (strenght, stamina etc), but they only do exercises, they don't train like athletes do. That's why their progression stops after a few months.

PS: I'm referring to regular crossfitters, not the pros at the Crossfit Games. These guys really train, have decent technique and decent athletic performance.

[DevBG]

Consequences will never be the same:

[comehereyoumug]

0:36 ****ing looooooooool

[Brosnbroccoli]

****ing lol at thinking the best athletes won't go where the money is.
"Best athletes in the world" - nobody takes that serious.

[Acetheticz]

All I know is that most Crossfitters (that are actual competitors) are 10x more athletic than pro body builders.

brb running 5 miles without getting gassed
brb high altitude hiking is a breeze thanks to conditioning

But have someone like Joey Swoll's manlet ass run a mile and he'll be throwing up in 5 minutes.

[juiceyjay]

Consequences will never be the same:

how unfortunate

[stinkboxslammer]

crossfit is and forever will be a joke

[BwuK]

I don't sh*t on Crossfit like the majority of the misc.

The top level Crossfitters are incredible athletes, but your average one most likely has poor form and isn't in all that great shape.

[LiftBig315]

Lol, that is mental. I would do a 360 and walk right outta that bitch if I were to do something like that. Not all crossfitter can be retarded though. Just seems like the ones that are idiotic about it are the ones that are so vocal at the same time.
to each their own, but that event looked like a horrible plan from the get go, and the fact that people were actually attempting it is a pity.

There are some pretty impressive crossfit "athletes" of that's what you wanna call em, but like others said, they're coming in trained. It's the people that don't have any background in any form of sport or exercise that come in, don't know their body, try too hard with **** form or no clue and the next thing ya know they've got injuries. No surprise. Look at newbs that come in trying to deadlift and f up their back. Same ****. People just need to wise up and not train like idiots, regardless if it's crossfit, bodybuilding, powerlifting, golf, fapping etc.

[ZidaneValor]

All I know is that most Crossfitters (that are actual competitors) are 10x more athletic than pro body builders.

brb running 5 miles without getting gassed
brb high altitude hiking is a breeze thanks to conditioning

But have someone like Joey Swoll's manlet ass run a mile and he'll be throwing up in 5 minutes.

It seems like you're narrowing your definition of athleticism to be "cardiovascular and/or aerobic endurance". I'm not saying endurance is not important, but it's only one part of the more broad athleticism in my opinion.

So I looked at the results for CF Games, their world championships. Elite athletes - the world's best - at the top of their game. I found 2010. They have a 5k 'race' (it's not even a distance race - I'd *love* to see the 10k or half marathon). Women = 23min and change. I can beat that, and I'm some 34yo, too-fat scrub who runs as a hobby. Men, just under 19min. That gets regularly beaten by skinny teenagers at my local weekly fun run.

The 5k times aren't just not very good, they're atrocious. inb4 they can squat + kip pullups too. Sure. But that's not what the question is. The question is do CF protocols cross over to every facet of endurance training - DO THEY HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS?

That reminds me of the Greg Glassman quotation where he basically said that if you can run too fast or lift too much weight, then you must not be fit; then one paragraph later his infamous "500-750 pound deadlifts in 2 years" quotation.

http://www.tamcrossfit.com/crossfit-...greg-glassman/

Reporter: Based on the experience of friends doing the Crossfit program, I have heardmany reports of new PR’s and other feats of strength in specific lifts.
This happens despite the fact that the particular lift only comes up on an occasional basis. This completely flies in the face of conventional training wisdom, so I must ask: how is this possible?!

Glassman: If you come to us with a 4-minute mile, six months into it you are going to be 30 seconds slower but a whole hell of a lot fitter. Similarly, if you come to us with a 900-pound squat, in six months it’s going to be 750 pounds, but you, too, will be much fitter. A 4-minute mile and a 900-pound squat are both clear and compelling evidence of a lack of balance in your program. This doesn’t reflect the limitations of our program but the inherent nature of flesh and blood.

But here’s the fascinating part. We can take you from a 200 pound max deadlift to a 500-750 pound max deadlift in two years while only pulling max singles four or five times a year. We will though work the deadlift, like most lifts, approximately once per week at higher reps and under grueling conditions. It may intuit well that if you can pull a 250 pound deadlift 21 times coming to the lift at a heart rate of 180 beats per minute, then 500 pounds for a single at a resting heart rate is perhaps manageable.

[VictorHei]

Decathlon sh its all over Xfit

[ZidaneValor]

That actually reminds me of my second favorite quotation where Dave Castro basically said that Olympic decathletes and professional athletes "don’t have that mindset to push like CrossFitters do", and I think he was even specifically talking about Bryan Clay (I forget, it's been a while since I listened).

http://journal.crossfit.com/2010/12/...reArticleTitle

[guyver79]

All I know is that most Crossfitters (that are actual competitors) are 10x more athletic than pro body builders.

brb running 5 miles without getting gassed
brb high altitude hiking is a breeze thanks to conditioning

But have someone like Joey Swoll's manlet ass run a mile and he'll be throwing up in 5 minutes.

Again, this is a bizarre argument, a pro bodybuilder is trying to be as big and a ripped as possible, put a "crossfitter" on a pro stage and the crossfitter would be laughed off.

Put a crossfitter in any other professional sport without specific training and they'd struggle.

[Luc1fer]

LOL these *******s wouldn't stand a chance in the ring. Brb Slip then 1-2 its all over!

edit:

Go to 2:20 probably the most epic fail of crossfit history

lmao .. "That strong womyn. The car is obviously a privileged misogynist".

[magog704]

obligatory

[LionelRonaldo]

strong delusion

[imoffg]

That actually reminds me of my second favorite quotation where Dave Castro basically said that Olympic decathletes and professional athletes "don’t have that mindset to push like CrossFitters do", and I think he was even specifically talking about Bryan Clay (I forget, it's been a while since I listened).

http://journal.crossfit.com/2010/12/...reArticleTitle

in all fairness, dave castro is the worst person on the planet

[MustardTiger17]

I once worked with a kid that told me that ultimate Frisbee is tougher than football. Srs. I never took him srs again

[Condyle]

That reminds me of the Greg Glassman quotation where he basically said that if you can run too fast or lift too much weight, then you must not be fit; then one paragraph later his infamous "500-750 pound deadlifts in 2 years" quotation.

http://www.tamcrossfit.com/crossfit-...greg-glassman/

This is the thing. The CF trolls I mention earlier lulz at trunners for... running, and not caring about pullups or deads or anything other than fuking running.

CF types bustle in, tell us we're all unfit (apparently running 23 miles in under 2:20 is sickly and ill), tell us we should beef up, avoid grains, the usual... but THEN have the nerve to tell us our training protocols, for an event they say is useless, are wrong. Low-intensity steady state cardio training is ALL WRONG for running a marathon, an event which is 100 per cent low-intensity, steady state cardio. All we need is a few 400m hot laps, maybe flop a heavy rope around for a bit. A CrossFitter is more qualified than Olympic-level running coaches, more qualified than hundreds of years of runners and running, and at an event they fail dismally at. Seriously, I'm overweight, middle-aged, run as a hobby only and I'm faster than the *world's best* female CrossFitters, young women who train full-time with expert coaching and huge natural ability.

How does fuk off sound?

[PwnedTheism]

it's underrated how dangerous crossfit actually is.

Someone could've snapped a femur there or something

[veggie530]

I don't gain anything out of critiquing things I've never participated in (within reason). Not sure why others do, especially with Crossfit. Of course there are idiots in Crossfit who do idiotic things. The same can be said of martial arts... weight lifting (brb 40-plate leg press guy, etc.)... shooting... car racing... not all that unique.

[G0S9G]

I don't gain anything out of critiquing things I've never participated in (within reason). Not sure why others do, especially with Crossfit. Of course there are idiots in Crossfit who do idiotic things. The same can be said of martial arts... weight lifting (brb 40-plate leg press guy, etc.)... shooting... car racing... not all that unique.

I try not to be negative towards it because frankly it's helped popularize lifting in general which has led to improvements in regular gyms (in terms of equipment available mainly. I honestly think it's just become a "hip" thing to hate on so people do it. Most people ITT probably couldn't tell you why they dislike Crossfit or what the problems with it's programming are.

[308smk]

Holy fuk those hurdles look brutal.

Its like the time I stepped onto a chained up gate not realising that it would just swing out from underneath me.

But then doing it repeatedly. Ufukinwotm8

[LiftBig315]

I don't gain anything out of critiquing things I've never participated in (within reason). Not sure why others do, especially with Crossfit. Of course there are idiots in Crossfit who do idiotic things. The same can be said of martial arts... weight lifting (brb 40-plate leg press guy, etc.)... shooting... car racing... not all that unique.

Holy ****, common sense! Thank you!