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    Losing interest in bodybuiilding.

    There just iant enough coverage. I go weeks without hearing anything about any competitor I'm interested in and when I do get an update its Jay Cutler taking a fan photo at a gym somewhere in the world. What happened to training vids? BFTO? This sucks.


    We need to go to a straight points system and only the top 10 get into the O. No more auto qualify except for maybe prior O winners. Willingness to compete and consistency should matter more. Reward guys who put in the effort to show up and compete. If Jimmie Johnson or Rory McElroy could show up and win once and get into the championship it would obviously be bad for their respective sports. Especialy when those sports have dozens of events each year. Also, the IFBB needs to get its head out of its ass and acknowledge the need for coverage. The NFL and NBA don't rely soley on ESPN to cover the sport. They have many millions of dollars invested in PR that brings the sport to the fan. Srsly ppl.
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    Bb never was and never will be mainstream, DEAL WITH IT!
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    Been losing interest since 2007 when "paid dues" are victorious on Olympia stages instead of physiques....now I just sort of keep up to 'mire freaks like Ramy, Evan, etc
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    It's kind of like when you watch an awesome, amazing video on youtube or something and then find out it's fake or staged, it looses its appeal.

    Or like when Anderson Silver tests positive for PEDs =(
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    Originally Posted by AniMaLizTik View Post
    Been losing interest since 2007 when "paid dues" are victorious on Olympia stages instead of physiques....now I just sort of keep up to 'mire freaks like Ramy, Evan, etc
    Lol got to pay your dues bro, it doesn't matter how you look compared to the rest of the competition, got to pay the dues first.
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    Same here, bodybuilding sucks nowadays from the bland boring covers showing guys screaming to the stupid way contests are judged to the retarded "pay your dues" b.s. and lack of coverage.
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    I'll always be a fan... BUT I could see where you're coming from. As much as I loved the sport and all, just some things killed my interest, such as..

    Every year whoever wins the NPC Nationals/USAs gets signed to MD, then are dropped after one bad showing.

    Coverage has been rather meh lately as well... not too many new videos. Doesn't help 85% of posts on MD are all throwback videos.
    It's like "WOW! Cutler is huge again! Is he hinting at a comeback?" "The video is from 2010 bro"

    Then you got guys like Big Sean Allen and Jeff Long on Instagram marketing themselves out like they're 20x Mr. Olympias, then verbally attacking, blocking fans and/or commenting on their pics saying they look like sh*t. I seen once where somebody asked BSA if he could beat Ramy, and he responded something like "Who could YOU beat skinny boy? Get Ramy's nuts out your mouth and go train"

    Then... I've also seen guys on social media who show up looking 3-4 weeks out going as far as saying "Nobody trained or dieted harder than me"
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    when there is really only one or maybe two shows (Olympia and Arnold) that the top guys compete every year with it makes **** dull.

    And the judging criteria has gone all mass, to the extent that bloated guts and synthol dominate every physique.
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    Originally Posted by AniMaLizTik View Post
    Been losing interest since 2007 when "paid dues" are victorious on Olympia stages instead of physiques....now I just sort of keep up to 'mire freaks like Ramy, Evan, etc
    Pretty much this. Bodybuilding as a sport will never take off because the public knows that these guys are walking human laboratories.

    The coverage is ridiculous and makes it certain that even the potential that IS there is not fulfilled.

    Personally, I think I am getting more and more into physique and WBFF.
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    Originally Posted by tng83 View Post
    There just iant enough coverage. I go weeks without hearing anything about any competitor I'm interested in and when I do get an update its Jay Cutler taking a fan photo at a gym somewhere in the world. What happened to training vids? BFTO? This sucks.
    I feel you.

    It's like...what's there to talk about, exactly? A bunch of pros get shredded for a few weeks and pose on stage, receive placings we can basically predict in advance, and then for the rest of the year they might as well be dead or in a coma or on the moon. Jason Genova and Bostin Loyd are way more interesting than any serious competitive bodybuilder out there at the moment.
    We're dodging more ninjitsu attacks than Flex Wheeler. We're ducking more bullets than George Farah. We're facing more death than a kid leg pressing at Branch Warren's gym.

    You can't stop us. You can't hold us back.

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    Originally Posted by BartPimpson View Post
    I feel you.

    It's like...what's there to talk about, exactly? A bunch of pros get shredded for a few weeks and pose on stage, receive placings we can basically predict in advance, and then for the rest of the year they might as well be dead or in a coma or on the moon. Jason Genova and Bostin Loyd are way more interesting than any serious competitive bodybuilder out there at the moment.
    From what I heard, The Hodgetwins had one of if not the biggest line at the LA Fit Expo. There's a reason obviously
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    Originally Posted by 203mh View Post
    From what I heard, The Hodgetwins had one of if not the biggest line at the LA Fit Expo. There's a reason obviously
    The Hodgetwins are the reason I went to the Fit Expo. They were there repping Gym Shark, were happy to be there and had a very long line. They were funny as hell. Yelling out all of their catch phrases. Super cool to the fans.

    Bodybuilding needs personalities like theirs.
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    Follow powerlifting and strongman. Much more admiral and entertaining all round. I just like to keeo up with how the physiques are and watch the odd training vid with bodybuilding nowadays, which is still frustrating due to lack of material.
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    Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot View Post
    Follow powerlifting and strongman. Much more admiral and entertaining all round. I just like to keeo up with how the physiques are and watch the odd training vid with bodybuilding nowadays, which is still frustrating due to lack of material.
    Powerlifting is definately fun, and just looking over all the styles, you see a ton of progression from those style of training blocks as well. I follow natural bodybuilding as well, as I compete in those federations, fun for me.
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    For me it's the overall condition of the bodybuilders today and the distended stomachs with herniated belly buttons from GH and Slin abuse.

    I really wish that things would get back to the "golden era", 70's, 80's, 90's...when small, tight waists and symmetry, aesthetics were emphasized. I think bodybuilding would have a lot more traction if this happened as it was covered by ESPN back then and had a lot more "buzz" in general but it all starts with the judges and what type of physique they award.

    Not trying to hate on Phil because to be honest, no one looked overly conditioned or great at the 2014 O, but for a guy with a distended gut like he had to be Mr. O...it just kind of illustrated as to where this sport is headed and how tight waists are not much of the criteria anymore. The problem is that things will not change unless the judges start awarding more physiques that resemble the 70's, 80's and 90's but they won't because they think everyone wants the freaks with size and near 300 pounds on stage. =/
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    Originally Posted by Canuck77 View Post
    For me it's the overall condition of the bodybuilders today and the distended stomachs with herniated belly buttons from GH and Slin abuse.

    I really wish that things would get back to the "golden era", 70's, 80's, 90's...when small, tight waists and symmetry, aesthetics were emphasized. I think bodybuilding would have a lot more traction if this happened as it was covered by ESPN back then and had a lot more "buzz" in general but it all starts with the judges and what type of physique they award.

    Not trying to hate on Phil because to be honest, no one looked overly conditioned or great at the 2014 O, but for a guy with a distended gut like he had to be Mr. O...it just kind of illustrated as to where this sport is headed and how tight waists are not much of the criteria anymore. The problem is that things will not change unless the judges start awarding more physiques that resemble the 70's, 80's and 90's but they won't because they think everyone wants the freaks with size and near 300 pounds on stage. =/
    Not only that but back in the 70s and 80s bbers we're widely known. Everyone knew who Arnold and Lou were. Imagine if Dennis Wolf starred as Dolph Lundgrens role in a Universal Soldier remake. That would be huge for the sport.
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    I

    Then... I've also seen guys on social media who show up looking 3-4 weeks out going as far as saying "Nobody trained or dieted harder than me"
    too many feels on this post. Instagram is jam packed with soft and smooth people throwing money at the NPC so they can post pics of them with their dream tan on. #dedication #desire

    more like #lol
    ...imnoting
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    Originally Posted by tng83 View Post
    There just iant enough coverage.
    The Mr. O and the Arnold are live streamed by bb.com.
    This was NEVER done in the past.
    but bb.com only hosts/covers those, the rest you get (or used to get as of a few months ago) from MD.

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    I go weeks without hearing anything about any competitor I'm interested in and when I do get an update its Jay Cutler taking a fan photo at a gym somewhere in the world. What happened to training vids? BFTO? This sucks.
    Vids are old news thanks to piracy and youtube.
    If you want to follow a particular bb'er go to ******** or instagram, its how things are done nowadays.


    Originally Posted by tng83 View Post
    We need to go to a straight points system and only the top 10 get into the O. No more auto qualify except for maybe prior O winners. Willingness to compete and consistency should matter more. Reward guys who put in the effort to show up and compete. If Jimmie Johnson or Rory McElroy could show up and win once and get into the championship it would obviously be bad for their respective sports. Especialy when those sports have dozens of events each year. Also, the IFBB needs to get its head out of its ass and acknowledge the need for coverage. The NFL and NBA don't rely soley on ESPN to cover the sport. They have many millions of dollars invested in PR that brings the sport to the fan. Srsly ppl.
    Once upon a time we had TV coverage, then Arnold won when he shouldn't have and coverage was dropped by the major networks.
    Not many in this world want to see this on TV anyways and I'm fine with that.
    Its bad enough we have bikini, mens physique, and distended unaesthetic oil bags in bb'ing...no need to advertise the worst, and there is at least one at every show.

    You need to remember this is not technically a "sport" in the eyes of the public, heck I compete and it is nothing more than a glorified beauty pageant/freak show.
    Do you really need PR for every beauty pageant the IFBB puts on?

    Bodybuilding will never be mainstream, and a true bodybuilding fan would never want it to go mainstream as that's what makes us tick (bodybuilders). The subculture of bodybuilding is what makes bodybuilding unique and I'm good with it there.
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    Originally Posted by ArchAngel'73 View Post
    The Mr. O and the Arnold are live streamed by bb.com.
    This was NEVER done in the past.
    but bb.com only hosts/covers those, the rest you get (or used to get as of a few months ago) from MD.



    Vids are old news thanks to piracy and youtube.
    If you want to follow a particular bb'er go to ******** or instagram, its how things are done nowadays.




    Once upon a time we had TV coverage, then Arnold won when he shouldn't have and coverage was dropped by the major networks.
    Not many in this world want to see this on TV anyways and I'm fine with that.
    Its bad enough we have bikini, mens physique, and distended unaesthetic oil bags in bb'ing...no need to advertise the worst, and there is at least one at every show.

    You need to remember this is not technically a "sport" in the eyes of the public, heck I compete and it is nothing more than a glorified beauty pageant/freak show.
    Do you really need PR for every beauty pageant the IFBB puts on?

    Bodybuilding will never be mainstream, and a true bodybuilding fan would never want it to go mainstream as that's what makes us tick (bodybuilders). The subculture of bodybuilding is what makes bodybuilding unique and I'm good with it there.
    I don't know if I'm just lucky but every post I've seen from you pretty much showcases my opinion on the subject in question
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    I agree with most of the comments about how the sport might improve, but to turn the tables a bit I think people need to ask themselves: what are YOU doing to improve the sport? Everybody seems to want free videos and pictures sent to them online, which is fine, but I think it's important to support bodybuilding directly.

    How many "fans" have never actually been to a live contest? Even at the local level. Supporting shows helps the sport as a whole. Go to the fitness expos. Get off the couch and actually attend an event. The sport becomes more interesting when you get involved with it even as a spectator.

    Don't pirate bodybuilding DVDs, spend a few bucks and rent Generation Iron or buy a copy.

    And it's not like the IFBB hasn't thought of the idea of TV coverage. Last year's Olympia was cancelled from NBC Sports at the last moment.

    As others keep reminding us, bodybuilding is a niche sport and so we might have to work a little bit harder to stay interested in it. But we're not helping if we just expect everything to be spoon-fed to us.
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    Lost interest in it a year or so ago. I listen to Evan once in a while but overall i'm not interestedin the ifbb anymore.
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    Originally Posted by Canuck77 View Post
    For me it's the overall condition of the bodybuilders today and the distended stomachs with herniated belly buttons from GH and Slin abuse.

    I really wish that things would get back to the "golden era", 70's, 80's, 90's...when small, tight waists and symmetry, aesthetics were emphasized. I think bodybuilding would have a lot more traction if this happened as it was covered by ESPN back then and had a lot more "buzz" in general but it all starts with the judges and what type of physique they award.

    Not trying to hate on Phil because to be honest, no one looked overly conditioned or great at the 2014 O, but for a guy with a distended gut like he had to be Mr. O...it just kind of illustrated as to where this sport is headed and how tight waists are not much of the criteria anymore. The problem is that things will not change unless the judges start awarding more physiques that resemble the 70's, 80's and 90's but they won't because they think everyone wants the freaks with size and near 300 pounds on stage. =/
    Show me one guy from the 1970s who is more aesthetic, symmetric, proportionate than Shawn Rhoden or Dexter.
    The phisiques of that era, for the most part, were not proportionate and balanced .The conditioning wasnt nearly as good as now.
    Back then the emphasis was on size too.The arnolds, the Sergio's, the Haney's(guys dominating that era) were the Cutlers, Colemans, Heaths of their day.Being 240-50 lb lean in the 70s was like being 300 lb now.They were absolute freaks.
    Btw , the phisiques of the 1990s were similar to the ones now not the 60s thu 80s ones.
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    When I first started lifting, about 10 years ago, I was in high school.

    It was really a magical time of "Dude I got this new Muscle Tech NNANO VAPOR" or "Cell tech is unbelievable, I'm getting so strong". We were admiring Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman like gods.

    We were all so naïve and everything was awesome.


    I guess since then I've been just curious enough to see what happens at the Olympia and Arnold.

    Aside from that, I think it's quite a weird thing to be VERY into as a grown man. I see posters on here like "omg look at his glutes" and I just shake my head.

    I love bodybuilding for myself, my own body, but the magic of high school naivety surrounding pro BBing has worn off.
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    Originally Posted by jaredmus View Post
    Powerlifting is definately fun, and just looking over all the styles, you see a ton of progression from those style of training blocks as well. I follow natural bodybuilding as well, as I compete in those federations, fun for me.
    Yeah i can imagine the natural training being a bit more entertaining. You cant grow just by "blood in the muscle" workouts as a natrual or low dose user.
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    Been happening to me lately as well.

    During the last few years of the Jay Cutler era, there seemed to be a lot of fan coverage, update vids, etc.. now the sport has sort of died.
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    Originally Posted by PaLftr View Post
    When I first started lifting, about 10 years ago, I was in high school.

    It was really a magical time of "Dude I got this new Muscle Tech NANO VAPOR" or "Cell tech is unbelievable, I'm getting so strong". We were admiring Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman like gods.

    We were all so naïve and everything was awesome.

    I guess since then I've been just curious enough to see what happens at the Olympia and Arnold.
    I hate to say it but I miss those days... being at Wal-Mart/Barnes and Noble the day a new MD Mag came out, going to GNC/The Vitamin Shoppe and being like a kid in the toy store.
    "Aw man I can't imagine training without Nano Vapor"

    I still watch The Olympia, Arnold, and catch coverage for other shows when I can. I'll always be a fan of the sport, will always love bodybuilding..

    As for the glutes you mentioned- yeah man, lol. When I see a guy like a Ronnie Coleman or so, I'm thinking "Damn that back!" or "Holy **** his quads are huge" shoot me the day I say "Awww man I want glutes like his"
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    Went to my first show a few months ago, most of the big names were there.

    It killed it for me, i just kinda thought it wasn't really 'real' or something - like there were plenty of lower tiered guys who just looked terrible. I always liked the idea of bodybuilders striving for the perfect body but some of the guys looked really bad. Not sure how to explain it really.
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