Good lookin' workout as usual
I like the GMs description, will try to do that myself when I do them ... maybe even for RDLs
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05-13-2015, 01:38 AM #424
Just dump and try again? I still can't lower the bar myself but since i believe ottermode is epic upperchest and delts, seriously they make a physique, been doing C&P for singles instead and hoping the volume adds up, PP for overload, and calisthenics for density - seems to work for gymnasts + shoulder raises like a badybuilder lul
As for your woes, you can get stability by pushing your head forward as you press - Oly's call it head inside and it naturally puts your shoulders in the most stable position (you might notice it with people who do it on bench), and if the RCs are making it so you lack that upward drive or oomph, compensate by shrugging the bar up as you press - the traps are also scap elevators (when oly's clean the bar up, they actually shrug their traps up into extension, bar meets hip and it pops onto the shoulders. This means their traps are still engaged when they go to jerk/press the bar up, whereas people who lift it off the rack have slack traps so are naturally in a bad position to press it. This isn't something you really notice until you break the 1x bw mark, you'll feel your body naturally doing it, and doing it below that mark just leads to overkill and impingement cos too much elevation, but you're lacking RCs and have more clearance than most - tenodesis and acromioplasty - so might get away with it/necessary. Omar Isuf has a really good recent vid on overhead pressing if you want something more general princples)(\ /)
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05-13-2015, 06:32 AM #425
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05-15-2015, 01:47 AM #428
Tuesday 12th May 2015
75kg/165lbs
Squats with JP
Warm-up
Lateral lunges .... bar x 10 each side
BB paused squats .... bar x 15 seconds
Lateral lunges .... bar x 10 each side
BB paused squats .... bar x 15 seconds
Squats
5 x 60kg (132lbs)
5 x 100kg (220lbs)
5 x 120kg (264lbs)
F x 140kg (308lbs)
5 x 140kg (308lbs)
4 x 145kg (319lbs)
Should have gone for the 5th rep
Superset
Step ups to 18" box
10 x 60kg BB (132lbs)
10 x 60kg BB (132lbs)
10 x 60kg BB (132lbs)
with GHD sit-ups
12 x BW
12 x BW
12 x BW
All pretty good
Superset ... GMs/Metcon
Good mornings 10 x 40kg
Airdyne cycle 10 cals @ 75RPM
Good mornings 10 x 40kg
Airdyne cycle 10 cals @ 75RPM
Good mornings 10 x 40kg
Airdyne cycle 10 cals @ 75RPM
GMs strict: straight leg, 3 secs down, hip drive up
No rest between sets
Piriformis and glute stretches
50 minutes
The session
Squats
120kg x 5 .... Easy. Could feel the ITB pulling and was trying to protect it
140kg x F .... trying to protect that ITB and went down superslow and got stuck at the bottom so dumped.
140kg x 5 .... Good. Maybe had another 2 reps
145kg x 4 .... Plan was for 5. 4th rep got a little forward and the bar slipped back on my shoulders. Felt off balance so I declined the 5th rep. Should have settled myself and gone for the 5th
JP said my breathing on the squats up to 140kg was really good
Step-ups to 18" box/GHD sit-ups
10 x 60kg .... felt so light. Always worried I'll trip over on the last few reps but no fatigue at all
GHD sit-ups .... pretty easy as well other than the feel that I'm going to regurg my Xtend when I'm hanging down
GMs/Airdyne cycle
Good Mornings ... 40kg x 10 ... light but very strict: close stance, legs straight, butt back and slow 3 second neg, power up with the glutes and hammies
Airdyne cycle ... cycle-rower @ 75rpm for 10 cals.
No rest between sets and I was gassed by the airdynes
By the end of the session I'd forgotten about the ITB
140kg x 5 isn't quite 'easy' yet but I'm not far off. I need to have confidence and if all my reps were as good as the best one then that would be no problem
Had a nice ham and egg sandwich as PWO
Thanks PP ... a lot of people go too heavy on GMs and turn them into a half-arsed squat/upper back exercise. Maintaining the tightness through the glutes and hammies, and using them and the erectors to power up the bar is the key. You can go heavier with RDLs but the same principal about making sure you feel the tension through the glutes and hammies applies
Thanks Jeezy ... I knew it was just a mis-timing and I was pretty happy to get that weight for 5 reps. I was a bit of a pussy though about the 145kg ... should have steadied and gone for that 5th rep
Thanks Woody .... I want 150kg x 5 with your squat form!
There's no doubt in my mind that oly lifters and crossfitters have the best looking physiques .... that upper chest and delt size! Doing functional lifts like clean and press appeals to me much more than the idea of doing BB type reps to correct an imbalance that shouldn't be there. I like your programming ideas although why bother with the shoulder raises? Just do more OH pressing! Pretty impressive that you've worked through all your shoulder injuries
Yep .... impingement won't be a problem ... nothing there to impinge
I'd really love to get into some overhead pressing and I keep thinking about it ... I used to have very good shoulder development and I've lost a fair bit of size. When I do press overhead I do tuck my head inside and I can stay stable that way ... with JP the only OH exercise I've done has been OH squats, and the highest weight 50kg. I can stabilise that though. My worry is always that my poor tracking on the left shoulder on the way up will translate into bony injury at the GHJ because of translational movement there. Once my arms are overhead, elbows locked and shoulders in ER it's good. Snatch would seem to be a good movement for me but I'm not sure about how my facet joint would like it. Clean and jerk feel weird because of the tracking but I'd like to do it, and I suspect that doing it would actually free up my left shoulder so that it would improve my passive ER ... I know that active ER isn't going t happen but there's no reason other than a sh!tload of scarring that should prevent me from mechanically getting into ER. If I had more time I'd probably get JP to take me for a third day a week and just work on form for oly lifts and accessories .... he's very good oly trainer. Any thoughts on all this
I'll check out that vid a little later ... I like his vids that I've seen before
Thanks John!
It may not be true for other lifts but it definitely works for squats! The barrier for me is that my knees do complain after a while
Yeah .... mistimed that rep and got stuck down. I probably could have muscled it back up with some awful form but it wasn't worth the risk. I was pleased to get that weight for 5 reps after
The problem with getting your own cave is that you want to keep adding to it .... more is not enough!
Yeah ... I'm about to have my 165th birthday"Better to wear out than rust out!"
Squat 165kg/363lbs
Deadlift 190kg/418lbs
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05-15-2015, 08:01 AM #429
Thursday 14th April 2015
AM Pre-hab session
4 circuits of
Single leg deadlifts and hip IRs ... 12 each leg
Roller board single leg jacknife/push-up combos ... 6 each leg/12 pushups
TRX reverse flyes ... 12 reps
Cable wood chops ... 12 each side
Lying overhead cable extensions ... 12 reps
Thoracic rotation cable pull-throughs ... 12 reps each side
30 minutes
Thursday 14th April 2015
PM Macenko bench day 3
Macenko ... Week 3 Day 1
8 x 50kg (110lbs) 60%
6 x 60kg (132lbs) 75%
5 x 65kg (143lbs) 80%
4 x 67.5kg (149lbs) 85%
4 x 67.5kg (149lbs) 85%
3 x 67.5kg (149lbs) 85%
4 x 65kg (143lbs) 80% AMRAP
Missed a rep at 85% and p!ss poor AMRAP
20 minutes
Friday 15th May 2015
165lbs
Deadies
Warm-up
Banded Good Mornings ... 12 x blue band
Banded side-steps ... 12 each side x blue band
Banded Good Mornings ... 12 x blue band
Banded side-steps ... 12 each side x blue band
Deadlifts
5 x 60kg (132lbs) ... 3sec negatives
5 x 60kg (132lbs) ... 3sec negatives
5 x 100kg (220lbs)
5 x 120kg (264lbs)
5 x 140kg (308lbs)
5 x 160kg (352lbs)
2 x 170kg (374lbs)
1 x 162.5kg (358lbs)
160 felt great
170 ... should have got 3
No mindfcuk though
Superset
Pendlay rows
10 x 60kg (132lbs)
8 x 80kg (176lbs)
6 x 90kg (198lbs)
Power up; control down
with ring pull-ups
10 x BW
6, 4 x BW
6, 4 x BW
dead hang to chest-to-rings
Bis and lats were fatigued
Metcon
Deadball cleans ... tabata
Deadball cleans 45kg/100lbs x 20 seconds ... 9 reps
10 seconds rest
Deadball cleans 45kg/100lbs x 20 seconds ... 5 reps
10 seconds rest
Deadball cleans 45kg/100lbs x 20 seconds ... 5 reps
10 seconds rest
Deadball cleans 45kg/100lbs x 20 seconds ... 3 reps
10 seconds rest
Deadball cleans 45kg/100lbs x 20 seconds ... 3 reps
Hit the wall the last two sets
Was gasping
GHD hyperextension holds/reps
30 second hold, then 5 reps
30 second hold, then 5 reps
40 second hold, then 5 reps
Fuarck that last set!
Piriformis and glute stretches
50 minutes
The session
Deads
140kg x 5 ... Felt really good. Very quick
160kg x 5 ... did my usual and spent 30 seconds paused over the bar. Pulled it though and JP said it looked really good
170kg x 2 ... was supposed to go for 5 but that was never going to happen I spent probably 20 seconds over the bar but the first pull felt good. 2nd pull was good but JP said I looked very tense through and didn't grab a good breath so 3rd was always going to be hard
162.5kg x 1 ... super tight. Got the timing and the breathing wrong. Didn't feel bad about it though
Pendlay rows/Ring pull-ups
6 x 90kg Pendlays ... good
Ring pull-ups x 10 ... from dead hang to chest-to-rings. 1st set was good ... after that I could feel the biceps fatiguing. JP got some curl work in by assisting me with the last few reps
Deadball clean Tabata
... 5/8ths Tabata really because proper Tabata should be 20 seconds on, 10 off for 8 rounds
First set felt great but only 10 seconds rest, then more
I hit the wall on the 4th set, dies on the 5th
Overall
I was actually happy with the day. 160kg x 5 felt good even though I wasted time over the bar. No mindfuk over 170kg so I was very happy. I'm sure I psyched myself out of a 3rd rep. One really good thing is that my back has felt very strong and stable ... no clicking of that facet joint and no pain while pulling. It's always painful the rest of the time but the deads are not making it worse ... I know it's a long way from an easy 180 x 3, which was my best day on deads, but maybe a turning pointLast edited by fittofattofit; 05-15-2015 at 08:13 AM.
"Better to wear out than rust out!"
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Deadlift 190kg/418lbs
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05-15-2015, 08:56 AM #430
374 deads!
now were talking!
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05-15-2015, 09:18 AM #431
Nice work! Glad to see a good dead session. A bench session without injury is also a good bench session, I wouldn't beat yourself up over it.
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05-15-2015, 10:29 AM #432
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05-15-2015, 07:14 PM #433
Thanks Ryou .. of course I'll really only be happy when I'm pulling 180 again without the mindfcuks happening
I need some of that happening ... I'm sure I'd be better off if I thought the bar weighed 20kg less than really was
Thanks Austin .. probably the best part of it is that next day I'm feeling good ... low back isn't any more sore than normal
Next deads will come up on Wednesday so IO'll get to test it again
Thanks Jeeezy!"Better to wear out than rust out!"
Squat 165kg/363lbs
Deadlift 190kg/418lbs
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05-15-2015, 07:26 PM #434
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05-16-2015, 03:20 AM #435
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374x2 deadlift - looks like you're getting back into that 4 plate territory again which has got to be a good feeling. Just remember to emphasize quality over quantity and don't get too caught up in chasing numbers
Pretty cool to see the steady progression on bench. Seems like I remember you were doing around 135ish lbs forever because you had (I think) shoulder issues at the time so you were just doing that to maintain some mass and form. Looks like it's progressing nicely now though, and you already know bench is my favorite lift. After all, what's not to love bout an exercise you get to do while laying down?!?Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
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05-16-2015, 09:26 AM #436
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05-16-2015, 05:43 PM #437
Taking a leaf out of your book
I like doing the BW work but superstted like that it quickly becomes a real challenge for me. Now I want to be cool and move on to muscle-ups
Thanks Zack .... around the middle of last year I was at the stage where I could pull 4pps every time I went for it, then piriformis and sciatica did me in. The good thing for me this time was that my low back stayed tight during the lift and my form felt good so hopefully that will allow me to build on those reps. I'd much rather see 5 reps at 170 than 180 as a single
You're right ... I was just working for volume at 135 to keep the mass but when I tested the higher weights and my shoulders didn't bark I figured it was time to build in a bit of progression .... I'm chasing you now
My back has been felling great ... it's actually my quads and glutes that have had the DOMS"Better to wear out than rust out!"
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Deadlift 190kg/418lbs
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05-16-2015, 05:55 PM #438
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I have never gotten the hang of muscle ups. I still occasionally give then a go, but can't seem to get the technique together. I think it was a year or so ago, I went to the local playground and worked on them for about an hour---ended up extremely sore from my attempts lol.
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05-16-2015, 06:23 PM #439
I saw this vid and the real trick is to make the pull-up more like a straight arm pull-down
https://youtu.be/EKg5hfbj6Jg
.... maybe one day"Better to wear out than rust out!"
Squat 165kg/363lbs
Deadlift 190kg/418lbs
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05-16-2015, 06:28 PM #440
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05-17-2015, 04:12 AM #444
Yeah ... when I saw that vid it all made sense. I still can't get close though
I've got a second room just the same so I could have my rack and bench in one room and kettle bells, ropes and assorted other torture gear in the other room
The negs on the deads helped me tighten up so my back felt solid going in for the heavier reps
I've still got a way to go to get back the wings I had last year ... I've been slacking off on the lat work and the rows ... tried to make up for it a little today
Pretty sick work getting 23 reps on the wide grip pull-ups ... and that's at nearly 200lbs. I'd love to do a good muscle-up and then move on to that über-cool party trick .... the flag
Thanks Pritch .. that was my first good deadlift session for about two months and probably the best I've pulled this year so far
The ring work is fun but it doesn't take long it to go from 'easy' to 'fail'
Sunday 17th April 2015
165lbs
Macenko bench/BB Rows
Macenko ... Week 3 Day 2
8 x 50kg (110lbs) 60%
6 x 60kg (132lbs) 75%
5 x 65kg (143lbs) 80%
4 x 67.5kg (149lbs) 85%
4 x 67.5kg (149lbs) 85%
5 x 65kg (143lbs) 80% AMRAP
5 x 65kg (143lbs) 80% AMRAP
Felt better but still p!ss poor AMRAP
Yates Rows
10 x 60kg (132lbs)
10 x 90kg (198lbs)
10 x 110kg (242lbs)
8 x 120kg (264lbs)
8 x 120kg (264lbs)
8 x 120kg (264lbs)
8 x 120kg (264lbs)
16 x 100kg (220lbs)
I forgot how much I miss rows
40 minutes
Saturday ... at the footy! ... had a fun day yesterday .. slept in until 10am, then had lunch and drinks in the corporate pavilion at Adelaide Oval and prime seats to watch the AFL match between the Crows and St Kilda, all courtesy of my friend John ... he's the guy I squatted with a few weeks back.
Loaded up my plate with protein, sank plenty of beers and red wine, my team won, kicked on to the Casino for a few drinks, and finished up in a Korean restaurant. I don't remember much about walking home but I was pretty merry
Sunday ... I woke up hungover and spent Sunday rehydrating. I managed to get into my gym at 6pm for a short session ... Macenko bench was feeling OK and probably the easiest reps so far, but I'm still p!ssweak when it comes to the AMRAP sets. Week 4 Day 1 will see a 5kg bump in the top set .... hmmm. I'll give it a go but I suspect I'll be repeating a few weeks. The Yates rows felt good
I've got an intense few days training lined up:
Monday .... Squats with JP
Wednesday .... Deads with JP
Thursday .... Squats with John at the home gym
I'm sort of looking forward to it and sort of scared"Better to wear out than rust out!"
Squat 165kg/363lbs
Deadlift 190kg/418lbs
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05-18-2015, 11:52 PM #449
Are you failing down to the safeties on the AMRAP sets? Otherwise, is it pain, or just a grinder that makes you stop on them? I wonder if it has just been so long since real volume benching that you aren't quite adapted.
I had a plan to learn to muscle up but then my ring mount pulled out of the ceiling when my wife and I were both hanging on it for fun. I really need to put something up again. I would like to hang a pull-up bar and hang rings from that....
Looks like an awesome Saturday, but that probably also contributed to lower reps at the end so don't sell yourself short on the kg bump!"Yea, though I farmer's walk through the valley of the shadow of deadlift, I will fear no repetition: for the power rack art with me; thy plate and thy barbell they comfort me."
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05-19-2015, 07:51 AM #450
It was beautiful weather, good company, and a great way to spend a day ... helped take my mind off other sh!te
Thanks SK ... I've been flat out with RL just trying to deal with the domestic stuff (and pay the lawyers' fees), sort out sh!t at work, keep the money coming in, and all the time making sure I get some training in to stay sane. I just love a good training day
Thanks Tim ... I had a great day ... suffered for it that night though
Did you ever get to see an Aussie Rules match when you were in Aus? You'd love a day like that ... next time!
Thanks Carl! I've still got a lot of work to do for my pulls, but I can feel my back getting stronger and more stable so hopefully I can shift things up a gear
On the AMRAPs it's usually a fail onto the safeties or a grinder ... no pain so far (which is the main thing for me). I think that you'e right about it being about adaptation. For a long time after all the shoulder ops my benching was done so light and slow that I pretty much forgot how to generate any power or speed with pressing. It's weird, but I think a lot of my training has got to be about re-educating my pecs and tris on how to work
I'll try not to psyche myself out of the next round of Macenko
Tuesday 192th May 2015
75kg/165lbs
Squats with JP
Warm-up
BB paused squats .... bar x 10 seconds x 3
Quad stretches
BB paused squats .... bar x 10 seconds x 3
Quad stretches
Squats
5 x 60kg (132lbs)
5 x 100kg (220lbs)
3 x 120kg (264lbs)
1 x 140kg (308lbs)
1 x 150kg (330lbs)
1 x 160kg (352lbs)
F, F x 165kg (363lb)
160kg was good
Messed up the timing on 165
Superset
Deficit SLDLs ... 4" deficit
5 x 100kg (220lbs)
5 x 120kg (264lbs)
5 x 120kg (264lbs)
Felt good and quick
with BSSs ... rear foot on 18" box
8 x 40kg (88lbs) each leg
8 x 50kg (110lbs) each leg
8 x 50kg (110lbs) each leg
Good. Light weight
Prowler push sprints ... metcon
100kg+50kg sled = 150kg/330lbs x 40m
20 second rest
100kg+50kg sled = 150kg/330lbs x 40m
20 second rest
100kg+50kg sled = 150kg/330lbs x 40m
I just love that concrete floor .. collapsed in a heap
Piriformis and glute stretches
50 minutes
And deadlifts tomorrow!"Better to wear out than rust out!"
Squat 165kg/363lbs
Deadlift 190kg/418lbs
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