Should parents who refuse to get their children vaccinated be jailed?

[nutsy54]

That should be the whole point of government, to protect minority against the majority.

Here's the irony of your statement: VACCINATIONS in the majority are what protect the minority (those who medically can't be vaccinated, or for whom the vaccination won't work)

[ooDC]

Thanks for the neg ZenBowman fgt

[flairon]

If government has to be, then government should be (supposed to be) reactive, not proactive. If someone (majority or minority, doesn't matter) hurts someone else, then government should react after the hurt party comes to government with proof of being hurt.

again...that sounds fantastic in your little world. it doesn't work like that in the real world

[Arashi]

Get the truth here

The Effect of Aluminum in Vaccines on Humans
youtube.com/watch?v=yCzdliixnmI


Vacciness -The truth behind vaccinations-
youtube.com/watch?v=PQsVTlMsQrI


Silent Epidemic; The Untold Story of Vaccines Movie dire
youtube.com/watch?v=K1m3TjokVU4


Dr Suzanne Humphries: The Truth Treatment -
youtube.com/watch?v=n8mHB_CW1tM



How Vaccines Harm Child Brain Development - Dr Russell Blaylock MD
youtube.com/watch?v=7QBcMYqlaDs

[Jryt]

If government has to be, then government should be (supposed to be) reactive, not proactive. If someone (majority or minority, doesn't matter) hurts someone else, then government should react after the hurt party comes to government with proof of being hurt.

Would you not accept that by not having their children vaccinated some parents are harming other people and their children? Wouldn't it then be the role of the govt to protect the others from the people who don't vaccinate? There is proof that this happens at a statistical level.

[SwollNMember]

Get the truth here

The Effect of Aluminum in Vaccines on Humans
youtube.com/watch?v=yCzdliixnmI


Vacciness -The truth behind vaccinations-
youtube.com/watch?v=PQsVTlMsQrI


Silent Epidemic; The Untold Story of Vaccines Movie dire
youtube.com/watch?v=K1m3TjokVU4


Dr Suzanne Humphries: The Truth Treatment -
youtube.com/watch?v=n8mHB_CW1tM



How Vaccines Harm Child Brain Development - Dr Russell Blaylock MD
youtube.com/watch?v=7QBcMYqlaDs

Shhhh . . . don't anger the vaccination zealots. They can't wait for the day their beneficent overlords command them to round up the heathens. Well, they won't actually do any of the dirty work. That would take balls and might be icky.

[ZenBowman]

Shhhh . . . don't anger the vaccination zealots. They can't wait for the day their beneficent overlords command them to round up the heathens. Well, they won't actually do any of the dirty work. That would take balls and might be icky.

I'd be very happy to do the "dirty" work of vaccinating children.

[nutsy54]

Shhhh . . . don't anger the vaccination zealots. They can't wait for the day their beneficent overlords command them to round up the heathens. Well, they won't actually do any of the dirty work. That would take balls and might be icky.

How many more lies and false accusations will you conjure up to defend your failed agenda?

The anti-vax crowd is causing disease and death, so your response is to ignore that, and attack those who are trying to avoid such preventable tragedies.

[kusok]

Would you not accept that by not having their children vaccinated some parents are harming other people and their children? Wouldn't it then be the role of the govt to protect the others from the people who don't vaccinate? There is proof that this happens at a statistical level.

Then you would have to be consistent and jail all those who drive a car, since statistically they do endanger others by simply getting behind the wheel. ER MER GAAARD! My child will have red spots for 7 days, OH NOES!!!! Jail all contagious people!

[Dave22reborn]

Then you would have to be consistent and jail all those who drive a car, since statistically they do endanger others by simply getting behind the wheel. ER MER GAAARD! My child will have red spots for 7 days, OH NOES!!!! Jail all contagious people!

How do compare a vehicle to diseases and viruses that can be prevented?

[flairon]

How do compare a vehicle to diseases and viruses that can be prevented?

He's grasping for straws because he knows he has nothing else to go with

[SwollNMember]

How many more lies and false accusations will you conjure up to defend your failed agenda?

The anti-vax crowd is causing disease and death, so your response is to ignore that, and attack those who are trying to avoid such preventable tragedies.

LOL, hyperbole much? Where is all this disease and death the non-sheeple are causing?

[SwollNMember]

I'd be very happy to do the "dirty" work of vaccinating children.

From your clinic in the FEMA camp?

[kusok]

How do compare a vehicle to diseases and viruses that can be prevented?

Deaths caused by driving also can be prevented.

[ZenBowman]

Deaths caused by driving also can be prevented.

Correct, and we rightfully arrest people who practice irresponsible driving (without a license, when using a cellphone, or when under the influence).

We all understand that deaths will happen regardless. However, when you knowingly make decisions that put other people at risk, then you should be held accountable for your bad choices.

[kusok]

Correct, and we rightfully arrest people who practice irresponsible driving (without a license, when using a cellphone, or when under the influence).

We all understand that deaths will happen regardless. However, when you knowingly make decisions that put other people at risk, then you should be held accountable for your bad choices.

Knowingly??? You mean people who don't want to stick their kid with 69 recommended needles know that not doing so will kill other kids?


And also, people should be stopped when they drive dangerously. Wether it's due to old age or sleepiness or anything else doesn't matter. Because if you will stop people for lack of license or using a cellphone then you have to be consistent and stop other potentially dangerous drivers such as women, old people, asians, fat people, retarded slow people, teenagers, people who are shaving while driving, eating while driving etc.

You're basically trying to engage in pre-crime, and that is stupid idea. Government should react, not prevent.

Lots of people get killed and abused at home. Install government camera in every home?

[Jryt]

Then you would have to be consistent and jail all those who drive a car, since statistically they do endanger others by simply getting behind the wheel. ER MER GAAARD! My child will have red spots for 7 days, OH NOES!!!! Jail all contagious people!

Measles CAN kill, but generally I'd be more worried about Hep B or something than measles.

I wouldn't say a comparison between vehicles and vaccinations is fair. The government (at least attempts to) makes sure that people know how to drive, and that they follow reasonable (as decided by the community) procedures when driving in order to not put themselves or others at undue risk. That's why drink driving/speeding and the like are illegal.

The question we have is whether or not we, as a community, decide it is reasonable that people make an attempt to limit the spread of a contagious disease in order to protect themselves and others at a certain inconvenience to themselves. I'd say kids should be vaccinated if they're going to schools, that's the policy I'd vote for. You'd obviously be different.

Although if government should be only reactive then surely we shouldn't have speed limits/BAC limits/seatbelt laws etc, because unless that driver is actually hurting someone they should just be allowed to drive however they want? I disagree with this, and if this is what you are advocating in a reactive government then I'd disagree with that concept as well.

[Arashi]

Shhhh . . . don't anger the vaccination zealots. They can't wait for the day their beneficent overlords command them to round up the heathens. Well, they won't actually do any of the dirty work. That would take balls and might be icky.

I havent read the thread... but the reality of the situation is that people are like cattle to the elites.
The time bomb cancer virus that was spiked in the original Polio vaccinations has cost millions of lives and reaped untold amount of money in profits. The cancer industry profits where chemo is the go to treatment yet they dont share any statistical charts on survival rates past 5-7 years. Why, because all victims die with their family riches looted.

It should be noted that deadly disease of the past have been somewhat wiped out because of sanitation and the not being vitamin deficient.
Often disease charts only go back 20-50 years which make people think a great reduction was due to nationalized vaccine programs. There are 100+ year graphs that show great reductions before vaccines were rolled out.

Polio chart were were also manipulated due to the literal spraying of school children and neighborhoods (via ground and air) of DDT. The chit even worked its way up through foods like milk.

The current scheme is weaponized bacteria with the goal to treat symptoms, not cure... sheeple members should inquire about where the name Lyme disease came about.

One of the simplest questions to ask brainwashed brahs is why is the Hep B vaccine is given to infants when that disease is a blood born virus... meaning only condom-less intercourse for a young pre-teen should be the target risk age.
One sheeple excuse is that 1% of pregnant mothers (drug addicts and hookers) dont want to test prior for Hep B before giving birth... should that make it mandatory for everyone to put poison into their child?

This is the simplest fact that shows lowering the populations intelligence is the goal of the elites.

I heard MMS may help some autistic children get better... not that it will do much to their damaged immune systems, allergies, and a myriad of other side effects thats not on the top of my head.

p.s. the mainstream brainwashing and disinformation sites lie about what diseases do or are capable of... and its not like rat race sheeple are going to truly spend time researching each one.

[Dave22reborn]

Knowingly??? You mean people who don't want to stick their kid with 69 recommended needles know that not doing so will kill other kids?


And also, people should be stopped when they drive dangerously. Wether it's due to old age or sleepiness or anything else doesn't matter. Because if you will stop people for lack of license or using a cellphone then you have to be consistent and stop other potentially dangerous drivers such as women, old people, asians, fat people, retarded slow people, teenagers, people who are shaving while driving, eating while driving etc.

You're basically trying to engage in pre-crime, and that is stupid idea. Government should react, not prevent.

Lots of people get killed and abused at home. Install government camera in every home?

Retarded slow people? Explain to us how a retard would get a license to drive.

[kusok]

Measles CAN kill, but generally I'd be more worried about Hep B or something than measles.

I wouldn't say a comparison between vehicles and vaccinations is fair. The government (at least attempts to) makes sure that people know how to drive, and that they follow reasonable (as decided by the community) procedures when driving in order to not put themselves or others at undue risk. That's why drink driving/speeding and the like are illegal.

The question we have is whether or not we, as a community, decide it is reasonable that people make an attempt to limit the spread of a contagious disease in order to protect themselves and others at a certain inconvenience to themselves. I'd say kids should be vaccinated if they're going to schools, that's the policy I'd vote for. You'd obviously be different.

Although if government should be only reactive then surely we shouldn't have speed limits/BAC limits/seatbelt laws etc, because unless that driver is actually hurting someone they should just be allowed to drive however they want? I disagree with this, and if this is what you are advocating in a reactive government then I'd disagree with that concept as well.

Driving kills hundreds of thousands of people regardless of government laws and "attempts". So, to stop it we must ban driving.

What school? Parents and school owners should decide the policy for vaccination, if any. None of your business.

Correct. There should be whatever speed limits and seat belt laws property or road owner wishes to impose. If any.


You can disagree, just don't steal my money and don't be ok with IRS stealing my money.

[kusok]

Retarded slow people? Explain to us how a retard would get a license to drive.

Do you have a car?

[Dave22reborn]

Do you have a car?

Back to grasping at straws again. Also, if I saw a 12-14 year old driving, he's getting pulled over, because it's most likely a stolen car.

[Lastman13]

So anti vaxxers claim that the vaccine has mercury levels 25,000 times higher than EPA drinking water standards. Sounds pretty scary, huh?

Well, you need to consider volume when considering concentration.
- the average human drinks 2000mL of water a day, every day.
- most vaccines are a one-time 0.5mL injection

2000/0.5 = 4000.
25000/4000 = 6.25

The amount of mercury in a vaccine, is the same amount of mercury you consume from drinking water in 6 days.

Sounds a lot less scary when you put it that way, huh?


I have no idea what the lethal dose for mercury is, or even what the dose is for low level mercury poisoning. I'm just pointing out that we should all read these statistics with a grain of salt and not let our emotions jump in the way; obviously this goes both ways on either side of the argument, this example is merely the first one I saw.

This is exactly why its important for kids to be educated in topics like Biology, Chemistry, Math, Physics, etc. So they can't be mislead by people using "science" to appeal to their emotions.

[NateTheGood]

The only people more crazy than the anti-vaxers are the anti-anti-vaxers.

BRB if you don't submit to putting substances in your body you should be forced, arrested, or executed

[nutsy54]

LOL, hyperbole much? Where is all this disease and death the non-sheeple are causing?

Just look at the current, growing measles outbreak - brought to us by the unvaccinated.

[nutsy54]

I havent read the thread... but the reality of the situation is that people are like cattle to the elites.
The time bomb cancer virus that was spiked in the original Polio vaccinations has cost millions of lives....

Is it even worth asking for proof of this ridiculous claim?

(This is why people laugh at the anti-vaccination crowd).

[Apeus]

Knowingly??? You mean people who don't want to stick their kid with 69 recommended needles know that not doing so will kill other kids?

Why do you still keep bringing up the number of recommended vaccines? You seem to think that a "big" number = scary and bad.

Keep taking your recommended 365 multi-vitamins every year!!!

Keep eating your 3,285 servings of vegetables!!

Those are big numbers so obviously they are very bad for you!!

[kusok]

Why do you still keep bringing up the number of recommended vaccines? You seem to think that a "big" number = scary and bad.

Keep taking your recommended 365 multi-vitamins every year!!!

Keep eating your 3,285 servings of vegetables!!

Those are big numbers so obviously they are very bad for you!!

Did you shoot yourself and your kid with 69 shots or no?

[Apeus]

Did you shoot yourself and your kid with 69 shots or no?

I've said before I gotten all of my vaccinations, just like 99% of everyone who grew up in the 80's and 90's.

[kusok]

I've said before I gotten all of my vaccinations, just like 99% of everyone who grew up in the 80's and 90's.

Awesome! So you're protected. So don't worry about me vaccinating. Mind your business. Just remember, if you got 68 shots you should be jailed.