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Thread: Time doesn't exist
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01-30-2015, 11:03 AM #91
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01-30-2015, 11:05 AM #92
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01-30-2015, 11:05 AM #93
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01-30-2015, 11:07 AM #94
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01-30-2015, 11:11 AM #95
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01-30-2015, 11:12 AM #96
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01-30-2015, 11:14 AM #97
loopholes can't exist because once you've had any sort of influence on one timeline, a whole new timeline is created. As far as we know, ther future doesn't get "erased" because it's no longer relevant to our timeline. so you couldn't go back and let your younger self know the winning numbers in the lottery because from that point on, it gets spliced into a new timeline.
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01-30-2015, 11:15 AM #98
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01-30-2015, 11:16 AM #99
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01-30-2015, 11:16 AM #100
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01-30-2015, 11:18 AM #101
did you bother reading my replies? because they answer all of your questions.
Time is more of a direction. It can go forward and backward, but also up and down. Whenever you add a dimension to something, you can only do it at a right angle. Up and Down is the angle we take when we enter the 5th dimension, Up and Down are the other timelines.
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01-30-2015, 11:22 AM #102
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01-30-2015, 11:28 AM #103
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01-30-2015, 11:28 AM #104
I tried to make it sound as simple as possible. Good that you actually tried to listen, i expected something else.
Also, realise that everything in our universe, basically everything we know, can be described via mathematics. Your chemistry, my physics, biology, astromomy... everything. Even psychology once we've fully understood what "consciousness" actually is and how it works... . So everything that can be theoretically described mathematically without colliding with observations, can be considered true until it's proven otherwise.
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01-30-2015, 11:29 AM #105
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01-30-2015, 11:30 AM #106
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01-30-2015, 11:33 AM #107
Yes, but what's also important that there can be different types of infinities. In the 5th dimension, every single timeline exists, but they all had the same starting point, the big bang. So it's not really everything yet. That's why there are 5 more dimensions. Once we reach the 10th, every information ever possible with every starting point possible, we've reached the pinnacle.
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01-30-2015, 11:34 AM #108
OP is right.
The concept of time was just created by humans to keep our lives in order and have reference points in our lives. Each person's past is different and it's only the memory of past experience.
If you look at it physically, the Earth, solar system and our own galaxy is moving through the universe at a different spot every fraction of a second. We are never going to be at the same physical spot ever again. We are also not going to be able to go back and reverse the movement of planets and galaxies. In that sense, there really is no past but our recollection of our own experience.
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01-30-2015, 11:35 AM #109
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01-30-2015, 11:35 AM #110
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01-30-2015, 11:35 AM #111
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01-30-2015, 11:36 AM #112
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01-30-2015, 11:38 AM #113
Black holes are real becuz we can see the effect it has on an object around it. As black holes devour matter, a material forms that looks like a disk which radiates x-rays from the electromagnetic spectrum. We can also witness the gravitational affects it has on matter such as stars at the center of our galaxy making them move in weird ways unrelated to how the object should be moving. They are formed usually when a massive star collapses or dies and are speculated to be at the center of most galaxies.
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01-30-2015, 12:30 PM #114
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01-30-2015, 01:17 PM #115
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**** you i've just spent my Friday night watching videos of cosmology and time travel theories because of you. Got a question though brah, it's known that gravity slows time down and it's one theory that we could double the time on earth by flying next to a black hole right? (roughly). GPS Satellites have to account for this etc etc as you probably know. Does that mean that you have to experience true zero gravity to be experiencing the true rate of time then? As in, we can't speed time up we can only slow it for ourselves? If that makes sense
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01-30-2015, 01:26 PM #116
you're welcome, *******
General relativity says that gravity and acceleration are basically the same thing. Think about it, you sit in a car with blackened windows and accelerate. You get pushed into the seat. Now take the car and put it rectangular to the ground so that the front faces the sky. you experience the same effect because of earths gravity, you get pushed into the seat. We know that you experience the same time dilation from your relative point of view.
So if you would want to experience "true time", you see that you really can't. because relative to something, you're always moving. The earth moves around the sun, the sun moves around a star cluster, the cluster moves around the black hole at the center of the milky way etc etc...
Also, what we experience as gravity is actually warped spacetime, which doesn't have an "end". If two marbles were placed 10 billion kilometers apart from each other, they'd still attract each other because of their mass warping spacetime.
so you can't ever experience "real time rate" because you're constantly in warped space. Unwarped spacetime doesn't seem existLast edited by klaromonete; 01-30-2015 at 01:40 PM.
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01-30-2015, 01:34 PM #117
actually, the slowing of time has been scientifically proven. no theory anymore. They once took two atomic clocks, put once on the ground and one in a jet and had it fly around the earth. when they returned, the atomic clock that travelled around the planet was (i believe about) 1 nanosecond behind. Atomic clocks are THE most precise clocks there are, so there's no way it was because of a technical error and it fit perfectly into the equations made by Einstein.
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01-30-2015, 01:53 PM #118
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Yeah just read about that as well, they sent 2 around the world and kept 1 at the US Naval base I believe and compared them when they got back. Interesting sht. Surely gravity and the effects of acceleration are two different things though? Gravity is actively pulling you towards the centre of a mass, being pushed back into a car seat is just the outcome of being forced along by something when your body is not moving? I'm struggling to get my head round the concept of spacetime though aside from the fact it can slow down. As well as why we slow down when approaching the speed of light as well aside from the physical impossibility of anything reacting with each other (electromagnetic forces between particles ceasing to work for example), why does it slow down to not allow us to reach 100%?
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01-30-2015, 02:04 PM #119
What makes it all work is that lightspeed is a constant, no matter from what point of view.
We don't slow down when we approach almost light speed.
The faster an object gets, the more time dilation it experiences, or in other words, time slows down for the object. But it's mass increases the faster it gets, if we were to reach 100% lightvelocity, our mass would be infinitely high and time would stop, which violates Einsteins laws.
The de Broglie wave equation relates the velocity of the electron with its wavelength,
λ=h/p,
where p is the momentum. While p=mv in classical mechanics, in special relativity the actual relation is
where m is the rest mass. If we still need to make the equation p=mv correct, we introduce the concept of "relativistic mass" M=γm which increases with v.Last edited by klaromonete; 01-30-2015 at 02:09 PM.
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01-30-2015, 02:30 PM #120
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