Good news Misc, I've decided to proceed with my lawsuit

[Unbreakable09]

You're a scumbag and I hope you lose.

However, you might win because we're the U.S., where people have fought and died to maintain your right to be a scumbag, even if you can't take a minute to stand-up and respect them for it.

[tsbalr120]

I think that's faulty analagy. Calling your boss a dick is hurting his personal feelings and a serious breach od work place professionalism.

Not standing up in a stadium is hurting an ideology and op did it in a respectful way.disrespectful would have been him cursing the pledge and making a scene. You can't confuse respectfully declining with intentionally opening your mouth and abusing someone. Totally different.

I meant he saw you posting on the misc saying "OP is a *******," and firing you. Not calling him one. Either way it wasn't the point. You don't have freedom from consiquences of your actions of others.

In a right to work state, he could be fired if his boss found out he didn't stand during the pledge. It doesn't really matter.

[BeefyMcNasty]

So, let's just look at a few things here:

1.) You went to a sporting event in the United States on private property.

2.) You didn't stand for that nation's anthem (I respect your right not to, just sayin).

3.) Your fellow citizens (that's key here) caused a ruckus which led to you getting kicked out by agents acting on behalf of the property owner.

4.) Now you plan to sue and have that case be decided by a jury comprised of your fellow citizens.



I would be amazed if it actually goes to trial and they found in your favor. In fact, if that happens, and Misc you can quote me on this, I will enjoy a nice juicy steak.

[Rambo26]

Good luck i say

[Pexterra]

age :31

get a life

[lethalandcruel]

This has probably been answered but,

Why exactly didn't you stand Op? out of curiosity.

His bf fukked him too hard the night before so he couldn't stand up. What a *******!!!

[suave2000]

So cliffs for those who don't get it yet

-OP is a gigantic unpatriotic ******* with entitlement issues
-Refuses to stand up for his country's national anthem, while living in one of the best countries in the world
-Gets butthurt when people who are respectful and grateful to be in their country are pissed that he refuses to stand up (which he only did for attention to begin with)
-is now suing the arena for removing him, because he was bothering other people who paid to be there
-is using the country's laws which he refuses to stand up for in respect, solely to make money

You really are a gigantic *******

If you want reps just ask for them, no need to bend over and start sucking "patriotic" dick for them.... LOL kid get a grip

And i hope you win opie.

[Kev1972]

Bet OP would have stood for ISIS national anthem. I hope you get deported to some sandy snackbar.

[VabaX]

As in 99% of lawsuits.. if you stood up would we be in this predicament, No.

and as with 99% of muggings, if the victim had simply left their Rolex at home, we wouldnt be in this predicament, therefore it's the victims fault. you're a fuking dumb chit

[DoctorHitch]

ayy lmao @ murica

[Carter80]

Pretty sure they can kick you out for whatever they want to, including not standing up for the national anthem. If it was a winnable cause almost any lawyer would have taken it for no upfront retainer.

This. They can claim you were being a public disturbance. Hope you lose the case, ******* op.

[VabaX]

Quick Google search..



http://m.vucommodores.com/m/faciliti...-policies.html

Your actions disrupted the fans around you. Whether it was your intention or not. They have the right to remove you to end the conflict. It has nothing to do with your civil rights.

Just like that guy who caught the foul ball during the post season game of the Chicago Cubs way back when. He was removed from the premises because fans around him were causing a commotion over him, even tho he didn't break any rules.

brb, buying a certain brand of chips during break at game
brb, other fans hate said brand and start insulting about your chips
brb, security throw you out
brb, totally legit

you'd be perfectly OK with this too........rite?????? same fuking thing...

[JasonCDT1]

This. They can claim you were being a public disturbance. Hope you lose the case, ******* op.

Yes they can claim that, and the judge can also say "no sitting peacefully having *******s yell at you for nothing is not YOU being a public disturbance"

[Carter80]

Yes they can claim that, and the judge can also say "no sitting peacefully having *******s yell at you for nothing is not YOU being a public disturbance"

OP's attorney would have to prove that. Defendant can claim ******* op was being a disturbance that had nothing to do with the national anthem.

[GioVannaJoJo]

If you want reps just ask for them, no need to bend over and start sucking "patriotic" dick for them.... LOL kid get a grip

And i hope you win opie.

"get a grip"

Coming from the guy supporting OP, Who is suing because he refused to stand for the national anthem

lol just LOL

[Blacryan]

A lot of you people posting in this thread are ****ing retards.

I don't agree with OP's decision not to stand.

Just because I put on a ticket, "can be removed for any reason." doesn't mean I can kick you out because I don't like the color of your skin or because I don't like your religious or personal views.

Honestly, OP has a very solid chance, would not be surprised if they offer a small settlement.

OP's attorney would have to prove that. Defendant can claim ******* op was being a disturbance that had nothing to do with the national anthem.

But how was OP being a disturbance that had nothing to do with the national anthem?

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Individuals found violating any policies can be removed from the stadium. Non-students are subject to arrest and prosecution under applicable laws and state statutes.

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The Vanderbilt Athletic Department reserves the right to remove the ticket holder from the premises if in the sole opinion of the security personnel his or her conduct endangers or disrupts the players, coaches, officials or fans.

Vanderbilt Athletics thanks you for your support.

Tell me where did OP violate any of their code of conduct? Sitting at a stadium minding your own business will not be considered causing a rucukus with the people around you. Good ****ing luck proving that and getting anybody to bite.

Those are protected classes, so it's not close to the same thing. He disturbed fans around him and the security staff made a decision that they have a right to make to protect everyone, including the OP.

It is. If OP made the decision to not stand based on his religious beliefs, he is entitled to that. Is OP required to stand during the national anthem according to the stadium rules? If not, OP did absolutely nothing wrong... He was literally sitting at the stadium, minding his own business. Do you honestly think the stadium will argue OP was the cause of this? It was drunk people around him.

Although I disagree with OP. He has a very solid chance imo.

[tsbalr120]

brb, buying a certain brand of chips during break at game
brb, other fans hate said brand and start insulting about your chips
brb, security throw you out
brb, totally legit

you'd be perfectly OK with this too........rite?????? same fuking thing...

Well first I highly doubt OP sat quietly when the other fans were getting rowdy. If he likely mouthed back, then his case is in deeper water.

Ignoring that, if an action he did disrupted the fans around him, no matter how small, the security staff has the right to take out the cause of the problem.

For me personally, I would support him being thrown our for any reason. He's on private property.

[tsbalr120]

A lot of you people posting in this thread are ****ing retards.

I don't agree with OP's decision not to stand.

But if I remember correctly (and I could be completely wrong?) this "stadium" was a city/state owned or partially owned stadium. It wasn't a private one.

Just because I put on a ticket, "can be removed for any reason." doesn't mean I can kick you out because I don't like the color of your skin or because I don't like your religious or personal views.

Honestly, OP has a very solid chance, would not be surprised if they offer a small settlement.



But how was OP being a disturbance that had nothing to do with the national anthem?

Those are protected classes, so it's not close to the same thing. He disturbed fans around him and the security staff made a decision that they have a right to make to protect everyone, including the OP.

[Blacryan]

Well first I highly doubt OP sat quietly when the other fans were getting rowdy. If he likely mouthed back, then his case is in deeper water.

Ignoring that, if an action he did disrupted the fans around him, no matter how small, the security staff has the right to take out the cause of the problem.

For me personally, I would support him being thrown our for any reason. He's on private property.

He is on private property that he purchased a ticket for to allow him to be on that property. Did the stadium officials offer him a refund/compensation for his removal? He followed every single one of their guidelines/rules... What did he do to violate their code of conduct? I responded to your other post in my post prior to that.

[Ratfish]

Few weeks ago I told you how I was kicked out of a stadium because I didn't get up for the national anthem.
Well I found a lawyer who is taking my case for no upfront fee but will take 30% of any win or settlement.
The other lawyers wanted a retainer before they'd file any paperwork and most wanted up to 50%.
We're going to argue that they violated my civil rights by removing me from the stadium.
Also we're going to argue that they had a duty to provide adequate security and removing me and not others violated that duty.
We're going to sue for an astronomical sum to basically force their hand at settling so they don't risk losing in court.
I've researched this lawyer online and he's legit with some great settlements for his clients.

were they british lawyers or something?

[krazy33]

Imma bet they removed you simply because its far easier to remove one person, whether you're causing, or simply apart of a disturbance, than it is to remove a whole section (or more than one)

Go ahead and cry about it..but i simply hope the people here that are for it are sued for something so easily avoidable..and a direct result of a sad inferiority complex

[swhitese]

Hope they countersue you for being such a *******

[tsbalr120]

Tell me where did OP violate any of their code of conduct? Sitting at a stadium minding your own business will not be considered causing a rucukus with the people around you. Good ****ing luck proving that and getting anybody to bite.

Look up Steve Bartman. He did not break any rules, but his action disturbed fans around him and he had to be escorted out.

It is not that OP did anything wrong according to his story, but his actions caused a disturbance to the fans around him. Security has the right to ask him to leave to end the situation before it got violent.

It is. If OP made the decision to not stand based on his religious beliefs, he is entitled to that. Is OP required to stand during the national anthem according to the stadium rules? If not, OP did absolutely nothing wrong... He was literally sitting at the stadium, minding his own business. Do you honestly think the stadium will argue OP was the cause of this? It was drunk people around him.

Again, it doesn't matter if OP did anything wrong, but it did cause a situation that escalated to the point where security felt they had to step in, and security usually has the right to soley make that decision in the best interest of keeping the peace.

Although I disagree with OP. He has a very solid chance imo.

There's more than one side to every story. Wouldn't be surprised if security personnel would testify that OP was talking chit back, which is against the code of conduct.

[DrTynanol]

inb4 op gets counter-sued for sexual harassment

[IH8RICE]

Well first I highly doubt OP sat quietly when the other fans were getting rowdy. If he likely mouthed back, then his case is in deeper water.

Ignoring that, if an action he did disrupted the fans around him, no matter how small, the security staff has the right to take out the cause of the problem.

For me personally, I would support him being thrown our for any reason. He's on private property.

Wouldn't all the patriotic fans who were rustled around Op be causing more of a ruckus than him? The only reason security came over was because of them being so rustled. Why didn't they throw them out as well?<---- Solid argument that will be used in court no doubt.

[edd4nz]

you must be the biggest beta ******* when a bunch of old fat neckbeards makes such a scene

[HughMadborough]

As an immigrant from the UK to the US, who has been to a few ball games - what possible reason could you have for being such a rude little kunt, opie?

[Blacryan]

Look up Steve Bartman. He did not break any rules, but his action disturbed fans around him and he had to be escorted out.

It is not that OP did anything wrong according to his story, but his actions caused a disturbance to the fans around him. Security has the right to ask him to leave to end the situation before it got violent.




Again, it doesn't matter if OP did anything wrong, but it did cause a situation that escalated to the point where security felt they had to step in, and security usually has the right to soley make that decision in the best interest of keeping the peace.



There's more than one side to every story. Wouldn't be surprised if security personnel would testify that OP was talking chit back, which is against the code of conduct.

Lol. You cant be comparing the steve bartman incident(which I've known about since it happened...) to this. You're delusional to try to compare those two incidents. Vastly different.

It does matter if OP did something wrong.

If the people around him were breaking the stadiums code of conduct/rules, OP can argue he was minding his own business, not violating any rules and was removed without just compensation.

Security may have the right to make the decision based on whatever they feel necessary and from that, they get to deal with the consequences/results aka a lawsuit.

[SRTEvan]

lol in b4 ops $350 settlement check. lol just lol

[HGM1989]

While I think opie an unpatriotic doosh for not standing up and saluting his country, in my very uneducated opinion on this matter I believe he has the right to refrain from any such activity if he wants to without fear of being kicked out of a ball game. To me, they did violate his civil rights and I think he has got a shot at winning.