OBAMA says "ISIS ARE NOT MUSLIM." (srs) (vid)

[FeralBeast]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwp8qKvE-0g


If ISIS isn't Islamic, then the crusades weren't Christian.

[fsujoseph]

Lol at hating muslims because of the radicals

Murrrca

[CMDaddy88]

ISIS are Muslim, since they identify as such and believe in the basic tenents of Islam ie belief in one God and his Prophet

[klokos]

They claim to be Islamic, but they have a false understanding of the ACTUAL religion, which IS a religion of peace. As said above, they are as Christian as those who are part of the Westboro Baptist Church. They're extremists who have a flawed perception of their own religion.

[PP4puppy]

what do the letters ISIS stand for?

[Caxoo]

ISIS is Islamic, but ISIS isn't Islam

The crusades were Christian, but the crusades aren't Christianity

[havoc713]

ISIS is about as Islamic as the Westboro Baptist Church is Christian

There is some truth to this.

[FeralBeast]

They claim to be Islamic, but they have a false understanding of the ACTUAL religion, which IS a religion of peace. As said above, they are as Christian as those who are part of the Westboro Baptist Church. They're extremists who have a flawed perception of their own religion.

actually, the fact that extremists follow the scripture 100% makes them the MOST Muslim.

The Qur'an is God's word. If you interpret it to mean something other than exactly what is written, it no longer becomes God's word.

[PP4puppy]

ISIS is about as Islamic as the Westboro Baptist Church is Christian

yeah cause I tiny group of trolls with no real power other than hype = a large group of killers with money and power. LOL

[Caxoo]

actually, the fact that extremists follow the scripture 100% makes them the MOST Muslim.

The Qur'an is God's word. If you interpret it to mean something other than exactly what is written, it no longer becomes God's word.

By this standard, 99.999% of the world's devout to any religion are in fact non-believers

[helpmee]

They claim to be Islamic, but they have a false understanding of the ACTUAL religion, which IS a religion of peace. As said above, they are as Christian as those who are part of the Westboro Baptist Church. They're extremists who have a flawed perception of their own religion.

About 20 members of the Westboro church... No murders
A couple million or so Muslim extremists murdering, hacking people up, etc

[FeralBeast]

By this standard, 99.999% of the world's devout to any religion are in fact non-believers

no, they're believers.
they're still muslims/christians/jews/etc

but they're just sh!tty believers of their faith, since they cherrypick what aspects they want to follow.


I just find it funny how these cherrypicking religious people accuse the extremists of not even being a part of their religion, when the reality is that the extremists are more devout followers of said religion.

[BrahWarrior]

They claim to be Islamic, but they have a false understanding of the ACTUAL religion, which IS a religion of peace. As said above, they are as Christian as those who are part of the Westboro Baptist Church. They're extremists who have a flawed perception of their own religion.

The Westboro Baptist Church killed people when?

And "radical" beliefs are widespread in the muslim world.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pa...nion-polls.htm

[PP4puppy]

keep believing in the "extremists" bros. It's only the extreme element. Yeah, sure, extreme folks. Have you met Muslims? I have. They are very strict in their beliefs, and all of them are into male dominance (like the misc) and all of them frown on drinking and eating bacon. They are not chill like a lot of Christians are. I can drink and hang with Mormans. They don't drink, but they will hang with drinks and smile. Try finding Muslims that do this.

[CMDaddy88]

About 20 members of the Westboro church... No murders
A couple million or so Muslim extremists murdering, hacking people up, etc

muslim extremists murdering dont number in the millions, unless of-course you include legitimate rebels and resistance fighter, since many Westerners believe a Muslim who fights to rid his homeland of occupiers is automagically an extremist

[sgttom]

I believe they are Muslim but they don't represent the majority of Muslims. One would have to study the Islamic texts, which I have not to really be able to tell if ISIS can legitimately say they are following their religions teachings.

[heeheehaahaa]

By this standard, 99.999% of the world's devout to any religion are in fact non-believers

Thus why religion is stupid and only fools follow them.

[mynameisuntz]

no, they're believers.
they're still muslims/christians/jews/etc

but they're just sh!tty believers of their faith, since they cherrypick what aspects they want to follow.


I just find it funny how these cherrypicking religious people accuse the extremists of not even being a part of their religion, when the reality is that the extremists are more devout followers of said religion.

This is actually a point that Sam Harris has elaborated on in drawing distinctions between Islam and Christianity. Technically, Christianity does have certain safeguards within the Bible which allow great leniency in interpretation. That is, you can rationally defy anti-gay messages in the Bible (for example) and still be logically consistent with the Bible. Part of this is because of the fact that the Bible is inherently very contradictory. This might look bad, but in a way it is good because it is easier to show Christians that tolerance of homosexuality (again, just as one example) can be just as Christian as intolerance.

A problem is that Islam doesn't have those same safeguards in the Qur'an. There isn't a great amount of inconsistency or contradiction; it follows a very singular path. This is problematic when it talks about killing apostates or the treatment of women because it leaves little wiggle room. Fortunately, of course, there are millions of followers of Islam who are not enforcing such beliefs, but many would suggest that behavior is more inconsistent with Islam than Christians who are pro-gay marriage, for example.

[benchbrah56]

no, they're believers.
they're still muslims/christians/jews/etc

but they're just sh!tty believers of their faith, since they cherrypick what aspects they want to follow.


I just find it funny how these cherrypicking religious people accuse the extremists of not even being a part of their religion, when the reality is that the extremists are more devout followers of said religion.

Murdering is not really a religious thing to do , and most ISIS ppl aren't even Imams or can even read the Quran in Arabic lol , most religious ppl especially Muslims do not cherry pick what to follow they are just sinners , that doesn't make them ****ty believers . They just make mistakes , get your facts straight dont just assume ****.

[gottalooksharp]

What's wrong with telling muslims and other concerned citizens that Islam is above these evil idiots? Islam as a religion and muslims as a people should transcend the radicals.

[CMDaddy88]

keep believing in the "extremists" bros. It's only the extreme element. Yeah, sure, extreme folks. Have you met Muslims? I have. They are very strict in their beliefs, and all of them are into male dominance (like the misc) and all of them frown on drinking and eating bacon. They are not chill like a lot of Christians are. I can drink and hang with Mormans. They don't drink, but they will hang with drinks and smile. Try finding Muslims that do this.

I dont think you understand what "extremism" in this context entails, the people you have described are not extremists, since ALL traditional Muslims avoid alcohol and bacon, and most come from patriarchal societies, they are traditional, conservative and practising Muslims, not extremists, unless RELATIVE to your lifestyle, but not politically speaking.

[cheapWiFi]

yeah cause I tiny group of trolls with no real power other than hype = a large group of killers with money and power. LOL

the analogy isn't about political influence or firepower, it's about how both groups are extreme ends of each religious spectrum

[bezarker]

[PP4puppy]

the analogy isn't about political influence or firepower, it's about how both groups are extreme ends of each religious spectrum

while you're at it, let's make an analogy about hitler and the Clippers old owner Donald Sterling. It don't matter the context, they share a common agenda. Right?

[Prose Edda]

Lol @ no religion condones the killing of innocence. Someone with intelligence should have written his speech

[privateparts]

the analogy isn't about political influence or firepower, it's about how both groups are extreme ends of each religious spectrum

But it's interesting how Christian extremists are a small group of trolls while Islamic extremist are murdering people daily.

[klokos]

Lol at hating muslims because of the radicals

Murrrca

>>>>>>>Teen misc w/ that stupid ass "murrica" bullchit

[PP4puppy]

I dont think you understand what "extremism" in this context entails, the people you have described are not extremists, since ALL traditional Muslims avoid alcohol and bacon, and most come from patriarchal societies, they are traditional, conservative and practising Muslims, not extremists, unless RELATIVE to your lifestyle, but not politically speaking.

wtf, is the misc on drugs today?

[LazyStarfish]

ISIS are our Illuminati Reptilian Overlords.

[Bloodmane92]

Oblongo will do just about anything to defend his Muslim heritage regardless of whether or not he claims Christianity. ISIS - ISLAMIC State of Iraq and Syria therefore they're Islamic. Herp.