I squat more then I deadlift?

[Warrior8890]

I recently did a 350 Squat and a 315 Deadlift. I know you guys are thinking, He's just a ***got who doesn't squat below parallel. Why is this? Everyone that squats similar weights to mine usually pulls 405+. I need to get my deadlift up to par so I'm just gonna run SS and deadlift 3x a week. I am squatting well below parallel so its not that I'm squatting high. I'm gonna try sumo as well.

Any Suggestions?
Thanks!

[123birds]

dat dere forearm strength?

[arian11]

Let's see a video of you squatting 350 lbs well below parallel then we can go from there.

[JohnnyRingo350]

Let's see a video of you squatting 350 lbs well below parallel then we can go from there.

[Warrior8890]

My brother sent me a screenshot of the bottom of my squat and its on my youtube channel. My brother doesnt have the video anymore though. Just type in Cary Norton 350 Squat. The video is just a screenshot but you can see I'm below parallel.

[CooCooCaChoo]

Terrible angle.

[ecchastang]

Where do you fail on the deadlift? Grip breaking it off the floor?

[Warrior8890]

Where do you fail on the deadlift? Grip breaking it off the floor?

If I can get it off the floor i always can finish it. My grip never gives out

[IngeKJ]

If I can get it off the floor i always can finish it. My grip never gives out

Then you probably have a bad starting position. if you set up properly and fire every muscle properly theres no reason your deadlift should be worse than your squat unless you have very good leverages for squatting

[Warrior8890]

Then you probably have a bad starting position. if you set up properly and fire every muscle properly theres no reason your deadlift should be worse than your squat unless you have very good leverages for squatting

Like a long torso and short femurs?

[IngeKJ]

Like a long torso and short femurs?

Those are great squatting leverages, but are also good deadlifting leverages unless you have really short arms. How is your deadlift technique?

[Warrior8890]

Those are great squatting leverages, but are also good deadlifting leverages u
nless you have really short arms. How is your deadlift technique?

I have short arms, and a long torso, even with my crappy leverages though, it seems like I could at least Deadlift what I squat. I pulled conventional but after watching a massthetics video I did my limb proportions and it says I should pull sumo based off the chart. I've tried it before and Im weaker at it but I'm gonna give it another go today.

[IngeKJ]

I have short arms, and a long torso, even with my crappy leverages though, it seems like I could at least Deadlift what I squat. I pulled conventional but after watching a massthetics video I did my limb proportions and it says I should pull sumo based off the chart. I've tried it before and Im weaker at it but I'm gonna give it another go today.

Sounds good. You cant really know if youre strong sumo after one try as its very technical, and you need a strong ass and hips to maintain good position and pull strong

[arn710]

Maybe try to deadlift more then squat

That should help with fatigue at least

[ShortDave]

Maybe try to deadlift more then squat

That should help with fatigue at least

Exactly what i was thinking.

[jayshort21]

Post a video of your deadlift technique.

[AMightyManlet]

I have short arms, and a long torso, even with my crappy leverages though, it seems like I could at least Deadlift what I squat. I pulled conventional but after watching a massthetics video I did my limb proportions and it says I should pull sumo based off the chart. I've tried it before and Im weaker at it but I'm gonna give it another go today.

Please don't let a video tell you how you should lift. If you are stronger conventional and a video said to try sumo, then why switch if you're weaker? Working on your sumo usually translates well to your conventional and vice versa, but don't switch your competition lift because youtube told you to.

[SkylerKing]

It would help to see your deadlift form. However, make sure your hips aren't too low. Sometimes when guys are leg-dominant and have a decent squat, but aren't familiar with deadlift, they drop their hips too low and basically try to squat the weight up. Think about it, if you essentially turn your deadlift into a modified squat, then it is similar to starting a squat from a dead-stop in the bottom position. So, if that is what you are doing, of course your deadlift will be lower than your squat.

[Warrior8890]

Thanks guys I appreciate it

[kmc06005]

Maybe try to deadlift more then squat

That should help with fatigue at least

Exactly what i was thinking.

What you did there, I see it.

[1pecmanlet]

I feel like most pros squat more than they deadlift. I wish I could squat more than I could dead

[cirion0000]

It would help to see your deadlift form. However, make sure your hips aren't too low. Sometimes when guys are leg-dominant and have a decent squat, but aren't familiar with deadlift, they drop their hips too low and basically try to squat the weight up. Think about it, if you essentially turn your deadlift into a modified squat, then it is similar to starting a squat from a dead-stop in the bottom position. So, if that is what you are doing, of course your deadlift will be lower than your squat.

I have heard this before and I believe this is a problem I might have myself as my DL is pretty weak (compared to how I feel it ought to be at least). What if your biomechanics prevent you from DL'ing with correct form without dropping the hips really low though? I am almost positive I have to do so because to do otherwise my back will not be straight and given a past history of lifting incorrectly and injuring myself, purposefully rounding the upper back is not an option for me.

[SkylerKing]

Well, "correct form" is a relative term that, itself, changes based on biomechanics. There are so many ways to change the way you are performing a deadlift that all make a difference in the end results. Grip width, foot width, knee angle, knees pushed forward over the bar, knees behind the bar (usually from shins being perpendicular to the ground), keeping the bar against the shins, keeping the bar a few inches in front of you, hips higher, higher lower, head up, head down, shoulders rolled forward, shoulders tucked back, etc.
A lot of those things may sound irrelevant or unimportant, but they do have a big impact on the end result.

[cirion0000]

Well, "correct form" is a relative term that, itself, changes based on biomechanics. There are so many ways to change the way you are performing a deadlift that all make a difference in the end results. Grip width, foot width, knee angle, knees pushed forward over the bar, knees behind the bar (usually from shins being perpendicular to the ground), keeping the bar against the shins, keeping the bar a few inches in front of you, hips higher, higher lower, head up, head down, shoulders rolled forward, shoulders tucked back, etc.
A lot of those things may sound irrelevant or unimportant, but they do have a big impact on the end result.

Good point. This is why I'm probably just going to eventually hire an elite coach to show me how I should be doing everything based upon my unique biomechanics and just take my own guesswork out of it so I can stop thinking and just lift.