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    Originally Posted by AKMuzzle View Post
    When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property-(Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

    you wot?
    That is Exodus.. u know? Like thousands of years ago?


    I don't think Jesus would like that at all, brah. I have stated before that those scriptures were written by men whose understanding of God is flawed. Same as the Koran.

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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    You go by the New Testament. The OT is a book of history and example. It basically chronicles mans attempt to define and fix his own destiny. The results are the wars and killing that we read about.

    The NT is where the realization that man cannot govern himself and a savior arrives to guide him. This is the revelation of God's true plan But it couldn't come about until man lived and breathed the error of his ways.

    Even so, there are still those that do not believe and think he can control his own destiny. Which is why the work of today's Christians goes on.
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    Originally Posted by Tekkendo View Post
    I don't think Jesus would like that at all, brah. I have stated before that those scriptures were written by men whose understanding of God is flawed. Same as the Koran.

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    Luke 12:45-48: "The lord [owner] of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more."

    Ephesians 6:5-9: "Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men: Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free. And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him."

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    Desperation move from TTP as they've been getting their asses handed to them for the past few months. Couldn't retaliate against the soldiers so opted to kill their children. No mater, this attack seems to have turned the tide against extremist ideology and has marginalized them even further.

    The response has been amazing; political parties have come together, terrorists are being hanged and the Army is on a rampage. Getting hard trying to keep track of how many terrorists have been killed this week.
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    “That kind of stuff is just, it’s ridiculous. It’s dangerous, it’s damaging, and it’s killing people. I mean, it’s literally killing their supporters. And that makes no sense to me.”
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    Originally Posted by ceizer1985 View Post
    Desperation move from TTP as they've been getting their asses handed to them for the past few months. Couldn't retaliate against the soldiers so opted to kill their children. No mater, this attack seems to have turned the tide against extremist ideology and has marginalized them even further.

    The response has been amazing; political parties have come together, terrorists are being hanged and the Army is on a rampage. Getting hard trying to keep track of how many terrorists have been killed this week.
    Reminds me of the siege of Beslan, only then was I more mortified and emotional about what I saw.
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    Originally Posted by AKMuzzle View Post
    Luke 12:45-48: "The lord [owner] of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more."

    Ephesians 6:5-9: "Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men: Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free. And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him."

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    Let me help you clear your intent to deceive

    http://biblehub.com/luke/12-45.htm
    But what if the servant thinks, 'My master won't be back for a while,' and he begins beating the other servants, partying, and getting drunk?

    http://biblehub.com/luke/12-46.htm
    The master will return unannounced and unexpected, and he will cut the servant in pieces and banish him with the unfaithful.

    http://biblehub.com/luke/12-47.htm
    "And a servant who knows what the master wants, but isn't prepared and doesn't carry out those instructions, will be severely punished.

    http://biblehub.com/luke/12-48.htm
    But someone who does not know, and then does something wrong, will be punished only lightly. When someone has been given much, much will be required in return; and when someone has been entrusted with much, even more will be required.


    See? It is not about slavery, einstein. What it teaches us is that we must not be slacking and go sinning just b/c we don't think the day of judgement is coming anytime soon. Doh?



    http://biblehub.com/ephesians/6-1.htm
    Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right.


    http://biblehub.com/ephesians/6-2.htm
    "Honor your father and mother"--which is the first commandment with a promise--


    http://biblehub.com/ephesians/6-3.htm
    If you honor your father and mother, "things will go well for you, and you will have a long life on the earth."


    http://biblehub.com/ephesians/6-4.htm
    Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord.


    http://biblehub.com/ephesians/6-5.htm
    Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;


    http://biblehub.com/ephesians/6-6.htm
    Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your hear


    http://biblehub.com/ephesians/6-7.htm
    Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people,


    http://biblehub.com/ephesians/6-8.htm
    knowing that whatever good thing each one does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether slave or free


    http://biblehub.com/ephesians/6-9.htm
    Masters, do the same to them, and stop your threatening, knowing that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and that there is no partiality with him.


    This teaches how parents and children should treat each other, and how servants and masters should treat each other.




    Yeah, it is about capturing women and children as slaves, like your bloodsoaked warlord moh did.





    I guess it is now clear why so many muslims read ancient text and then go fukin nut insane.....

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    Originally Posted by vvvaaa View Post
    Reminds me of the siege of Beslan, only then was I more mortified and emotional about what I saw.

    Alpha did well that time.
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    Originally Posted by AKMuzzle View Post
    Ah yes its about time you actually checked your sources.Good girl.

    The most authentic of ahadiths indicates warriors were killed so why are we discussing children and who was presumed a child and who wasnt?
    Are you implying Al-Sihah al-Sittah is not authentic? Sunan Abu Dawud gives details of how those slaughtered from Banu quraiza were chosen. And it indicates, quite clearly, that children were chosen and slaughtered by the prophet.

    So again, do you believe a 9 year old is a child?
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    Apparently 12 islamic taliban soldiers were hit by an American drone in response to their school massacre. So that makes it 89 taliban gone after the attacks.
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    Originally Posted by CynicalAtheist View Post
    Apparently 12 islamic taliban soldiers were hit by an American drone in response to their school massacre. So that makes it 89 taliban gone after the attacks.
    Are they (Taliban) claiming that they were innocent civilians?
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    Originally Posted by Malaki100 View Post
    Are you implying Al-Sihah al-Sittah is not authentic? Sunan Abu Dawud gives details of how those slaughtered from Banu quraiza were chosen. And it indicates, quite clearly, that children were chosen and slaughtered by the prophet.

    So again, do you believe a 9 year old is a child?
    Sahih Bukhari is the most authentic book after the Quran and none of the two say they killed kids/children. There are hadiths that are refuted in Abu da wood however the ulema do not refute the sahih bukhari.you know this hence why you referenced a Hadith from Abu Dawood as sahih Bukhari.

    Regardless if we take Sahih Bukhari AND Abu Dawood in to consideration, we know that warriors were killed and those warriors (according to Abu Dawood) had to be baligh. How does this justify the op? How does this prove your initial retarded post which said the prophet killed children to wreak havoc? Lol
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    Originally Posted by AKMuzzle View Post
    Sahih Bukhari is the most authentic book after the Quran and none of the two say they killed kids/children. There are hadiths that are refuted in Abu da wood however the ulema do not refute the sahih bukhari.you know this hence why you referenced a Hadith from Abu Dawood as sahih Bukhari.

    Regardless if we take Sahih Bukhari AND Abu Dawood in to consideration, we know that warriors were killed and those warriors (according to Abu Dawood) had to be baligh. How does this justify the op? How does this prove your initial retarded post which said the prophet killed children to wreak havoc? Lol
    This is why I hate arguing with you guys... Nobody said warriors weren't killed. What I am saying is that the 'method' Mohammed used, to identify warriors - for the sake of argument - goes against how we know banu qarayza identified "men" from "boys"...

    Which leaves two of my questions to you still unanswered. So let me ask you again:

    1. Do you believe the Sunan Abi Dawud is illegitimate?
    2. Do you believe a 9 year old is a child?

    These are yes or no questions. You can dance and skirt around them all you want, you can give me a 3 page dissertation on how you think my initial post was "retarded" too, but unless your reply includes a "yes" or a "no" to these two questions, you will have lost this debate.
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    Originally Posted by Malaki100 View Post
    This is why I hate arguing with you guys... Nobody said warriors weren't killed. What I am saying is that the 'method' Mohammed used, to identify warriors - for the sake of argument - goes against how we know banu qarayza identified "men" from "boys"...

    Which leaves two of my questions to you still unanswered. So let me ask you again:

    1. Do you believe the Sunan Abi Dawud is illegitimate?
    2. Do you believe a 9 year old is a child?

    These are yes or no questions. You can dance and skirt around them all you want, you can give me a 3 page dissertation on how you think my initial post was "retarded" too, but unless your reply includes a "yes" or a "no" to these two questions, you will have lost this debate.
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