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Thread: I hate deadlifts brahs
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12-12-2014, 11:08 AM #31
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12-12-2014, 11:09 AM #32
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12-12-2014, 11:09 AM #33
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12-12-2014, 11:10 AM #34
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12-12-2014, 11:10 AM #35
I can bench 140kg for 8 reps
Bench = chest shoulders triceps. Assuming equal involvement that gives me 46.6'kg per muscle.
In fact, the chest is the main mover, meaning it takes more than 1/3 of the load, so in reality you're looking at a number much higher than 46kg in the chest, per rep, meaning that the bench press is a greater chest builder than the fly unless I can do dumbell flies with like 60kg dumbells
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12-12-2014, 11:14 AM #36
Makes more sense than your last post. I doubt the distribution of the weight is completely equal, although I'm not going to act like I'm an expert on the subject of the distribution of the weight. If your chest could do 46kg on the bench press, why couldn't it do the same/ a little bit more with the flyes? If your chest is doing that much on bench, it makes no sense why it couldn't on the flyes.
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12-12-2014, 11:16 AM #37
let me just tell you that if i tried to do a 60kg dumbell fly my shoulder socket would hit the floor before the dumbell did
point is, you're flawed in thinking that the compounds are dangerous. In fact to get the same training effect of a compound in a given muscle, the weight on the isolations would be more dangerous than the compound.
Not to mention the sheer efficiency of compound movements. Looking at the bench press, I have an exercise that will add strength and size to my front delt, my triceps and my chest. Without that I'd have to do 3 stupidly heavy isolation exercises
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12-12-2014, 11:18 AM #38
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12-12-2014, 11:20 AM #39
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12-12-2014, 11:23 AM #40
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12-12-2014, 11:24 AM #41
Really I wasn't talking isolations in generally, for example when I said something about dumbbell exercise being superior, I was talking about dumbbell press to bench press. I actually feel my chest muscles contracting on dumbbell press, whereas I can't tell anything is being worked on bench press. Most people I see are contortionists on bench press anyways, which Is why I think dumbbell press is superior
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12-12-2014, 11:37 AM #42
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12-12-2014, 11:47 AM #43*Uncircumcised brahs for lyfe crew*
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12-12-2014, 11:50 AM #44
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12-12-2014, 12:09 PM #45
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12-12-2014, 12:21 PM #46anonymousGuest
ive fallen in love with with overhead press now, srs
although i dont hate hate squats now, i prefer it to leg press now
i like incline bench more than bench at the moment
id do deadlifts for fun if it wasnt for my spine. but i have been relatively pain free for like a whole month now shockingly, so i might try them again
spine injury was from football and stunted my growth along w other problems, not from deadlifting but deadlifts and sometimes bent over rows cause me major spine discomfort. deadlifting isnt worth taking pain pills daily imo so if it flares up again ill stop
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12-12-2014, 12:37 PM #47
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So you've got a pre-existing injury that makes deadlifts difficult for you to do, when they aren't even directly related to your goals, and so the negatives outweigh the positives? Meadey and TB would probably call you for this, but that's a 100% legitimate reason not to pull, and even so, you said you're considering reimplementing them if you can do so without pain.
The case of non-injured, inexperienced kids saying they don't like to pull is an entirely different story, they're the ones who need to grow a pair and start lifting. Someone without results has no right to comment on what's best for results, and someone who shies away from compound lifts when they're perfectly healthy to do so, has no business being in a gym....
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12-12-2014, 12:46 PM #48
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12-12-2014, 12:48 PM #49
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12-12-2014, 12:57 PM #50
Why does this 15 year old child think compound lifts are bad? So a century of proven methods to building muscle is incorrect?
S/D/B are king BECAUSE they use more than 1 isolated muscle group. this is what makes you STRONG.
I am an advocate of using dumbbells also, you need to do a little bit of everything...but if you're not going to Squat/Deadlift/Bench, you're doing the wrong activity - go play tennis or run a marathon...not that theres anything wrong with those..
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12-12-2014, 07:50 PM #51
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