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    Originally Posted by JayC24 View Post
    placebo is a powerful thing. had you replaced fin with sugar pills im pretty most of them would still report side effects if they had read about them before hand and were expecting them.
    I didn't even know what the side effects were before I started taking it. I was also 21-22 yrs old when I took it so there was no other reason for me to all the sudden not to be able to get it up. I also had no history of depression or a reason to be depressed.
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    Originally Posted by KidDynamite View Post
    it was hard for me to get an erection on it. I could still get them but had to manually stimulate and it could take some time sometimes. Side effects aren't a huge misconception even if you had success with it.

    Yeah because it's so unreasonable to think that inhibiting the most potent androgen in the male body could cause sexual side effects... everyone's just imagining them.
    When a reputable source publishes a study with only 1% of people reporting symptoms, I always believe it over the ramblings on the internet making it seem like 80%.

    Not saying some people on here didn't have sides though. 1% of a million prescriptions a year is still a lot of people, and mostly vain people take it, so it makes sense for a bodybuilding site to have a lot of references.

    Plus "bodybuilders" have sex a lot more often than the average male, they might be more sensitive to noticing their sex drive go down, even a little.
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    Originally Posted by Autopilot View Post
    I didn't even know what the side effects were before I started taking it. I was also 21-22 yrs old when I took it so there was no other reason for me to all the sudden not to be able to get it up. I also had no history of depression or a reason to be depressed.
    then you may have been one of the unfortunate few, fair enough.

    but for every 1 person that has legit bad sides, there are 90+ out there that don't have any and go on with their day without ever coming online to talk about it.
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    Originally Posted by JayC24 View Post
    several independent studies suggest otherwise
    They do suggest that they're possible. Either way the independent studies don't matter on an individual basis. Only my personal experience does. I was in denial about the sides and didn't want to stop it. Didn't realize what it caused until after I dropped it.

    Originally Posted by havoc713 View Post
    When a reputable source publishes a study with only 1% of people reporting symptoms, I always believe it over the ramblings on the internet making it seem like 80%.

    Not saying some people on here didn't have sides though. 1% of a million prescriptions a year is still a lot of people, and mostly vain people take it, so it makes sense for a bodybuilding site to have a lot of references.

    Plus "bodybuilders" have sex a lot more often than the average male, they might be more sensitive to noticing their sex drive go down, even a little.
    If you're so sure about it then I don't see why you're so argumentative. Who are you trying to convince? Everyone should try it for themselves. I am sure that permanent side effects are extremely rare.
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    I have zero sides as well, not regrowing much but keeping the same.

    Frankly I would be a 4/10 without hair so the prospect of my dick falling off never worried me despite it not being a problem anyway. Bald(ing) is a terrible look unless you look like the Rock.
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    Originally Posted by Ochosiete View Post
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    Originally Posted by KidDynamite View Post
    They do suggest that they're possible. Either way the independent studies don't matter on an individual basis. Only my personal experience does. I was in denial about the sides and didn't want to stop it. Didn't realize what it caused until after I dropped it.



    If you're so sure about it then I don't see why you're so argumentative. Who are you trying to convince? Everyone should try it for themselves. I am sure that permanent side effects are extremely rare.
    Trying to convince "scared" crew, when risks are so little, why be scared? I'll report back next time these threads come up after I have been on it awhile but I'm 99.5% sure I won't be experiencing any permanent sides.
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    I'm on it too. .25mg a day

    Did it work for your hair line/front or just vortex

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    Originally Posted by havoc713 View Post
    Trying to convince "scared" crew, when risks are so little, why be scared? I'll report back next time these threads come up after I have been on it awhile but I'm 99.5% sure I won't be experiencing any permanent sides.
    I don't think anyone should be scared to try it. It seems nearly everyone's side effects go away. However, saying that well documented side effects (that are common sense scientifically. you're inhibiting the production of a sex hormone) are placebo is stupid as sh*t. I couldn't get a boner without manual stimulation and a lot of effort sometimes. A little after dropping it I was getting spontaneous rock hard boners just thinking about sex. I didn't pay attention to it before starting the drug so I wasn't sure how effortlessly I should be able to get them normally.

    I wasn't paranoid about it either. Like you I read that only 1-2% get it and so I figured just old or sick people would get them.
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    only side effect i'm afraid of is shrinking dink

    anyone can confirm that this is true / real?

    I can get fin for free since I live in wales, so I may as well take advantage of it.
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    Originally Posted by ZzBrahh View Post
    I'm on it too. .25mg a day

    Did it work for your hair line/front or just vortex

    I'm a nw2
    thickened up both vortex and hairline, but my hairline stayed in it's place. didn't move back or forward any, just thickened up so my cover up game makes my nw2 not look as bad anymore.
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    Just ordered some Fin last week, waiting for it to come in the mail

    I'm extremely scared of side effects, but I don't think they're as common as people make it out to be. So many people are on Fin and only the bad cases talk about it. I've never told a single person that I use Minoxidil because it's just not something I talk about.

    Gonna take .5 mg and stick with that. I may even do .25 mg for a month and see how it effects me.
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    I'm going to start it early next year as I'm receeding a little, it may not restore my hairline but if it prevents it getting worse I'll be happy as fk
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    how do Canada brahs get Fin? Anywhere online you can order legit stuff ?

    What else is good to help with balding prevention? What topical creams would be best to use with Fin?
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    to people saying that having a loss of libido and a flaccid dick is a placebo affect--- the only one who is lying to themselves are you guys. It is a real thing, just consider yourself lucky. I was even on vitamin t and i experienced it.
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    Originally Posted by Boffman View Post
    I bet that stuff is expensive as phuck though. Nice OP, will remember that when I inevitably start balding. How much does it cost?
    Cheap as fuk actually. If you buy generic proscar and cut the pill into 4ths, you can get a 1.25mg dose per day for only 10 bucks a month.

    Sounds poverty bit just as effective, and doctors will OK this method.

    You can get it online. Obviously some risk because online pharmacy risk and chit, but this is what I did. Had decent results with some temple regrowth, but I wasn't really balding in the first place. No sides either

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    Originally Posted by ANIMALISTIKZ View Post
    to people saying that having a loss of libido and a flaccid dick is a placebo affect--- the only one who is lying to themselves are you guys. It is a real thing, just consider yourself lucky. I was even on vitamin t and i experienced it.
    in every independent study done, the placebo group had reported just as many side effects as the group actually taking fin. which was always around 2-3% if i recall, could be off on that number though.

    I repeat, 2-3% percent of people in a group taking sugar pills that thought they were taking finasteride reported that their dick stopped working. similar to the same number of people that reported sides in the group that were legit taking fin
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    Originally Posted by Internship View Post
    ...but fukin credit card companies blocked payment unless you email a prescription. Now you need an echeck. Stuff is still legit though.
    same one i used, but some members just pm'd me and said they require a script now too so i'll have to start shopping around myself in a few months.

    also, not sure if we can post sources, might want to edit that out.
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    Originally Posted by JayC24 View Post
    in every independent study done, the placebo group had reported just as many side effects as the group actually taking fin. which was always around 2-3% if i recall, could be off on that number though.

    I repeat, 2-3% percent of people in a group taking sugar pills that thought they were taking finasteride reported that their dick stopped working. similar to the same number of people that reported sides in the group that were legit taking fin
    Actually the finasteride group is consistently higher, just not that much higher. I'm a med student, not your average Joe. I understand the science behind the drug and how it affected me.
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    Originally Posted by KidDynamite View Post
    Actually the finasteride group is consistently higher, just not that much higher.
    do you have a link to a study? not that i don't believe you, i just looked and couldn't remember where i seen it. i knew the numbers were similar though.
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    Originally Posted by Internship View Post

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    I used to use other in house site but fukin credit card companies blocked payment unless you email a prescription. Now you need an echeck. Stuff is still legit though.
    I tried using this site before but it still asks for a prescription. What do you do, just say you'll fax/email it and never do?

    Also WTF is an eCheck and how do I get one?
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    Finasteride would be my very last choice. if you haven't try the natural ways yet +minox +keto (optional)... you really must give it a shot.

    I have noticed a difference in the last month since i started taking Saw Palmetto in doses of about 1000mg a day. Before that I also started taking an iodine, zinc and taurine supp with results that seems to stop the hairloss and shedding. Other changes were dietary.... so, reduced intake of omega 6 and increasing omega 3. Also, added coconut oil into my diet.
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    if anyone wants my propecia for cheap i'll sell it to you. i only used 1 of the 28 tablets because it gave me sides. pm me.

    also jayc24 i'm happy for you brah. i just have recession at the temples and thought i could halt it with fin but the brain fog was a killer. just s5 cream and regenepure dr for me.
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    Originally Posted by JayC24 View Post
    do you have a link to a study? not that i don't believe you, i just looked and couldn't remember where i seen it. i knew the numbers were similar though.
    The Merck study that tested 18000 people

    One study revealed that 3.8 percent of men treated with Propecia reported one or more adverse sexual side effects, compared with 2 percent of those given a placebo.

    http://www.drugwatch.com/propecia/side-effects/

    The thing is that the 2% given placebo didn't necessarily suffer from limp dick. They could have reported decreased libido whereas the 2% who actually got side effects from the finasteride group (4% is 2% above placebo) pretty much all got limp dick. They aren't that specific with what the placebo group actually said. I have never heard anyone complain of low libido but not limp dick, for example. So rest assured that anyone who actually gets side effects gets it.
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    Also I don't think some of you understand how medical studies work. The people who report side effects from the placebo group aren't complaining, they are just answering questions. So if someone from the placebo group is asked if their libido is different since starting the drug (or sugar pill), they just answer yes or no. Some might not be sure, but could answer yes. I doubt that many (or any) people in the placebo group couldn't get an erection. The Merck study doesn't say that they did. Just that they reported yes to some vague side effect.

    The 2% who actually get side effects is a different story. They are complaining and those are the people you hear about on the internet. Not the placebo group who just answered yes or no to a question.
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    Originally Posted by Vawx View Post
    Just ordered some Fin last week, waiting for it to come in the mail

    I'm extremely scared of side effects, but I don't think they're as common as people make it out to be. So many people are on Fin and only the bad cases talk about it. I've never told a single person that I use Minoxidil because it's just not something I talk about.

    Gonna take .5 mg and stick with that. I may even do .25 mg for a month and see how it effects me.
    get ready for that penor amputation son.
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    Should've waiting a couple years before making this thread, id like to see if you don't get sides in 5 more years, and if you stop taking you lose everything and more
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