Ask a guy who believes in the expanding earth theory instead of plate techtonics

[MikeDavies84]

It's always the uneducated people who believe these things without understanding any of the fundamentals.

When did you drop out of high school, op?

Are you questioning my argument from authority?

[Tzaddiq]

But who was birds?

Asteroid in Yucatan peninsula, and methane release from traps in Siberia actually. Also dino fossils have been found above KT boundary in Marshall islands off New Zealand.

Birds are the exception, they get all the chicks

[Internship]

I believe that subduction zones exist, but do they discount the idea that the earth has possibly expanded? How can we tell if they are deep, and how do we know that they have not recently formed. The himalaya mountain range could be due to a minor settling in the plates after the earth had significantly expanded.




But it does have to do with "Popular science"... which is my point

[IMG][MG]

The oldest sea floor is about 180 million years old, which is younger than when Pangaea started to first break apart (~300 million years ago). If the earth was expanding, you would expect to see ocean floor much older than its current age.

There is continental crust that is billions of years old, but there are no subduction zones or mid-ocean ridges in that area to produce or destroy that crust, so the amount of crust present is constant. On the ocean, equal amounts of crust that is created at mid ocean ridges is destroyed at subduction zones. The crust recycles itself.

[MikeDavies84]

No. In science hypotheses are put forward. You then go through falsification and try and find evidence that your theory is wrong. If you can find no evidence against you then your theory is probably somewhat correct. Tell us what the arguments against an expanding earth and why they are incorrect.

Thats exactly what I said... Expanding earth is my theory, YOU falsify it!

[bebja]

so earth is making rapid gains and is on dat dere stretch time?

[Raiphr]

Are you questioning my argument from authority?

Man I hate to do this, but I am. If every lecturer in 3 different universities (some of the best in the world) tell you something, surely it should be taken more seriously than someone who for example, doesn't persue geoscience as a career. Sorry dude.

[MikeDavies84]

The oldest sea floor is about 180 million years old, which is younger than when Pangaea started to first break apart (~300 million years ago). If the earth was expanding, you would expect to see ocean floor much older than its current age.

There is continental crust that is billions of years old, but there are no subduction zones or mid-ocean ridges in that area to produce or destroy that crust, so the amount of crust present is constant. On the ocean, equal amounts of crust that is created at mid ocean ridges is destroyed at subduction zones. The crust recycles itself.

I'm talking about expansion on an atomic scale. Gradually as the earth expanded, everything gets mushed around, hence metamorphic rocks. We do have erosion still so you would expect the entire sea floor to be covered in cretacious, jurassic and tertiary ****. No doubt the crust recycles itself, but doesn't discount the idea that the entire size of earth has increased due to gravity fluctuation.

[MikeDavies84]

Man I hate to do this, but I am. If every lecturer in 3 different universities (some of the best in the world) tell you something, surely it should be taken more seriously than someone who for example, doesn't persue geoscience as a career. Sorry dude.

Yeah, well you can deralick my balls.

[BrotherAndy]

This would also explain why we have to wear sunglasses, if the Earth is expanding then we are getting closer to the sun and so it's getting brighter. You never see any ancient civilisations wearing any shades in the pictures.

[Pimpus]

I'm talking about expansion on an atomic scale. Gradually as the earth expanded, everything gets mushed around, hence metamorphic rocks. We do have erosion still so you would expect the entire sea floor to be covered in cretacious, jurassic and tertiary ****. No doubt the crust recycles itself, but doesn't discount the idea that the entire size of earth has increased due to gravity fluctuation.

Jurassic, like jurassic park? I was with you up until this. You know that's just a movie, right?

[MikeDavies84]

This would also explain why we have to wear sunglasses, if the Earth is expanding then we are getting closer to the sun and so it's getting brighter. You never see any ancient civilisations wearing any shades in the pictures.

That would also explain why black holes came about before white holes HA

[Raiphr]

Don't understand, I refuted 2 of your central arguments. Philisophy of science and actual scientists don't tend to mix that well :/

[MikeDavies84]

Jurassic, like jurassic park? I was with you up until this. You know that's just a movie, right?

Jurassic is a time period

[Raiphr]

I'll never reach the apex of that pyramid! I mean, unless you want me to submit a written report with a series of academic references... and Ain't nobody got time for that.

[MikeDavies84]

Don't understand, I refuted 2 of your central arguments. Philisophy of science and actual scientists don't tend to mix that well :/

LOL, I'll shut up then

[Internship]

I'm talking about expansion on an atomic scale. Gradually as the earth expanded, everything gets mushed around, hence metamorphic rocks. We do have erosion still so you would expect the entire sea floor to be covered in cretacious, jurassic and tertiary ****. No doubt the crust recycles itself, but doesn't discount the idea that the entire size of earth has increased due to gravity fluctuation.

Metamorphic rocks are created from heat and pressure, that’s it. They are exposed on the surface near faulting areas. So this pretty much does discount the earth is expanding. The only evidence given was mid-ocean ridges. Fair enough. But that was disproven.

Even without evidence given, this expanding earth theory can STILL be disproven. GPS can detect motion on plate boundaries very easily. Some ocean floor moves up to 10cm per year. How come we cannot detect any changes in the earth’s diameter, despite that fact that ocean crust moves so much? The earth's diameter is constant.

[dabbmw2002]

here is an honest question op- since water cant be compressed it would have to exist as water vapor in the atmosphere??? With that level of greenhouse gases how could mammals exist much less evolve into what they were?

if dinosaurs had hollow vertebrae, wouldn't more gravity be dangerous? Less structural mass for objects weighing 80 tons?

[stefanuus]

Ok op so i think what ur saying is gravity use to be stronger before and got weaker overtime thus leading to the earths expansion and making continents spread out. If this were true then we would be able to detect the gravity constant changing which we don't which is why this theory is false

[Raiphr]

Even without evidence given, this expanding earth theory can STILL be disproven. GPS can detect motion on plate boundaries very easily. Some ocean floor moves up to 10cm per year. How come we cannot detect any changes in the earth’s diameter, despite that fact that ocean crust moves so much? The earth's diameter is constant.

This^

'ITRF2008 origin drift components and a mean solid Earth expansion rate are estimated and resolved simultaneously with rigid plate motions, PDMT and GIA from the data combination and a dynamically constructed a priori GIA model with a full covariance matrix.'

Source:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...1GL047450/full

[IIIWolverineIII]

so earth is making rapid gains and is on dat dere stretch time?

No brah. It's bloated from eating dairy. Earth should only drink Earth milk.

[HMFIC_BROWSIN]

God put the earth here.

he made it the perfect size right away.

plate tectonics, shmate shectonics. god gave us this "science" to test our faith.

[WhitePeril]

Strong theories. .. do they teach this stuff in school nowadays?

[Gunite]

why does my dink love your mouth so much OP?










































no homo....

[lsiberian]

There is a lot of real measured earthquake data in support of plate tectonics. What's the data that supports the expanding earth theory?

[Didlid]

where did all of the water come from brah?

[MikeDavies84]

Ok op so i think what ur saying is gravity use to be stronger before and got weaker overtime thus leading to the earths expansion and making continents spread out. If this were true then we would be able to detect the gravity constant changing which we don't which is why this theory is false

Thats like saying we should be able to see evolution occuring

[WhitePeril]

where did all of the water come from brah?

comets as well as from chemical reactions

[Nole92]

If your argument was really valid, you wouldn't discuss it and waste your time on a bodybuilding forum, you would go to a scientist, or call a conference and PROVE your theory to EXPERTS.

So, you should find another hobby, preferably a nice one.

[desslok]

where did all of the water come from brah?

When Venus lost its water to evaporation, the earth's gravity sucked it in.

[stefanuus]

Thats like saying we should be able to see evolution occuring

we do