Joe Rogan is slaming Schaub live right now

[randomguy2323]

lol he made sure to add the word heavyweight to cover his bases. People are completely arbitrary as to when they say someone has taken enough damage to consider retiring. Most people calling for his retirement including Joe and Callen are just jealous of him, and want to play a role in knocking him down a peg.

This would be the equivalent of people telling Frank Mir to retire after getting finished by Brock Lesnar. yeah he took a beating, and yeah he never reached the level he was once at, but many of he had some fights that are staples of his career after UFC 100. Increased his earnings, and popularity and therefore his ability to feed himself once he actually does decide to retire.

By the logic people are using to say he should retire, than they should also be calling for the following heavyweights retirement.

Andrei Arvloski
Bigfoot Silva
Ben Rothwell
Alistair Overeem
Gabriel Gonzaga
Frank Mir
Stefan Struve

wladimir klitschko should have retired when he got ko'd twice and everyone was saying he should retire.

Machida should've retired when his father said to retire.

pacquaio should've retired when marquez ko'd him.

lmfao - FALSE. all the fighters I mentioned, continued to fight and do well after people called for their retirements and thought they were washed up. hell even marquez, but he juiced up with angel Hernandez and is enjoying lots of money and some success still.

if any of you are salesman out there, do you just get to retire and stop working or change career paths after being in a slump?

no, in this life, the large majority of us will work until the day we die. we will get diseased and body parts will give out or start to crumble, and we will still have to pick our asses up and continue. why? because the world is harsh, cruel and unforgiving. we all gotta make our living and support ourselves. one way or the other.

[MojoTheMonkey]

wladimir klitschko should have retired when he got ko'd twice and everyone was saying he should retire.

Machida should've retired when his father said to retire.

pacquaio should've retired when marquez ko'd him.

lmfao - FALSE. all the fighters I mentioned, continued to fight and do well after people called for their retirements and thought they were washed up. hell even marquez, but he juiced up with angel Hernandez and is enjoying lots of money and some success still.

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The difference is that Schuab sucks at fighting.

[randomguy2323]

The difference is that Schuab sucks at fighting.

not even close. he's just not top 5 hw in the ufc/mma world.

in the entire mma world. all of heavyweight fighting, there's a ton of guys schaub can KO and takedown and dominate, and make money and a good living off of, for years to come. and to be fair in general, he wasn't ko'd his last fight or anything devastating. he had a heavy guy rock him, lay on him, and hit him with a bunch of medium powered shots. I remember doctors saying those shots could be worse, just overall punches adding up, etc.

either way, compare schaub to like the average heavyweight pro boxer. im sure he hasn't taken THAT many shots in his life.

[superamped]

not even close. he's just not top 5 hw in the ufc/mma world.

in the entire mma world. all of heavyweight fighting, there's a ton of guys schaub can KO and takedown and dominate, and make money and a good living off of, for years to come. and to be fair in general, he wasn't ko'd his last fight or anything devastating. he had a heavy guy rock him, lay on him, and hit him with a bunch of medium powered shots. I remember doctors saying those shots could be worse, just overall punches adding up, etc.

either way, compare schaub to like the average heavyweight pro boxer. im sure he hasn't taken THAT many shots in his life.

he played football to nfl training camp

[superamped]

schaub should of brought up how rogan looked like a purple old man during post fight interviews and how he should give up on commentating and stick to his mediocre comedy shows.

[randomguy2323]

he played football to nfl training camp

good point. either way it's his life. and he's ok right now. the future is unpredictable, as is health.

[MongoloidMike]

lol he made sure to add the word heavyweight to cover his bases. People are completely arbitrary as to when they say someone has taken enough damage to consider retiring. Most people calling for his retirement including Joe and Callen are just jealous of him, and want to play a role in knocking him down a peg.

This would be the equivalent of people telling Frank Mir to retire after getting finished by Brock Lesnar. yeah he took a beating, and yeah he never reached the level he was once at, but many of he had some fights that are staples of his career after UFC 100. Increased his earnings, and popularity and therefore his ability to feed himself once he actually does decide to retire.

By the logic people are using to say he should retire, than they should also be calling for the following heavyweights retirement.

Andrei Arvloski
Bigfoot Silva
Ben Rothwell
Alistair Overeem
Gabriel Gonzaga
Frank Mir
Stefan Struve

Arvolski is a classic example. The guy looked like he was dead when he got KO'd. I thought his chin was shot to the point where he would still get knocked out wearing a helmet. Look at him now, 2011 was his last knockout loss.
Also Schaub wasnt even out cold against Browne, which is a fair effort giving Browne's power. Obviously Schaub wont beat the top guys but still a potential gate keeper.

Joe really has to lay off pretending he was a proper fighter. I swear if he mentions he taught GSP the spinning back kick one more time i'm gonna scream.

[DATNEWNEWNEW]

wladimir klitschko should have retired when he got ko'd twice and everyone was saying he should retire.

Machida should've retired when his father said to retire.

pacquaio should've retired when marquez ko'd him.

lmfao - FALSE. all the fighters I mentioned, continued to fight and do well after people called for their retirements and thought they were washed up. hell even marquez, but he juiced up with angel Hernandez and is enjoying lots of money and some success still.

if any of you are salesman out there, do you just get to retire and stop working or change career paths after being in a slump?

no, in this life, the large majority of us will work until the day we die. we will get diseased and body parts will give out or start to crumble, and we will still have to pick our asses up and continue. why? because the world is harsh, cruel and unforgiving. we all gotta make our living and support ourselves. one way or the other.

that was exactly my point.

the reality is people like Joe and others on internet forums want him to retire out of jealousy and spite. They love having the power to do so and disguising it under kindness, when really they are just jealous of people like Schaub who is something they could never be.

[DATNEWNEWNEW]

Arvolski is a classic example. The guy looked like he was dead when he got KO'd. I thought his chin was shot to the point where he would still get knocked out wearing a helmet. Look at him now, 2011 was his last knockout loss.
Also Schaub wasnt even out cold against Browne, which is a fair effort giving Browne's power. Obviously Schaub wont beat the top guys but still a potential gate keeper.

Joe really has to lay off pretending he was a proper fighter. I swear if he mentions he taught GSP the spinning back kick one more time i'm gonna scream.

For real, Joe's just jealous because he never made it in the fight game and didn't have the heart to keep going. Plenty of the greats got knocked out in one of their first few fights, but Joe used it as an excuse to quit.

Joe makes it seem like he was some accomplished fighter or something, but you never hear actual legends talking like that. He only competed in tae kwon do, and has only THREE kickboxing matches.

Despite all the jokes about Schaub, he actually is one of the better athletes in a shallow division, and is a perfect gatekeeper.

[randomguy2323]

For real, Joe's just jealous because he never made it in the fight game and didn't have the heart to keep going. Plenty of the greats got knocked out in one of their first few fights, but Joe used it as an excuse to quit.

Joe makes it seem like he was some accomplished fighter or something, but you never hear actual legends talking like that. He only competed in tae kwon do, and has only THREE kickboxing matches.

Despite all the jokes about Schaub, he actually is one of the better athletes in a shallow division, and is a perfect gatekeeper.

true. also, kind of like you said. there's a TON of opinionated nobodies out there. I guess you could say im one too. but I mean guys like rogan. guys at the gym that train, but never fight. rarely ever spar(striking), or never do. and they think they're somewhat involved or know what's going on. but in reality they suck and don't fight or compete or never had the stuff to do it. and they often have bad opinions.

[Magicmees]

true. also, kind of like you said. there's a TON of opinionated nobodies out there. I guess you could say im one too. but I mean guys like rogan. guys at the gym that train, but never fight. rarely ever spar(striking), or never do. and they think they're somewhat involved or know what's going on. but in reality they suck and don't fight or compete or never had the stuff to do it. and they often have bad opinions.

Except Joe Rogan is
TKD & BJJ black belt
Massachusetts full contact Tae Kwon Do champion 4 years in a row
US Open Tae Kwon Do Champion
As lightweight champion went on to beat both the middle and heavyweight title-holders to obtain the Grand Championship
Has fought in kickboxing and constantly trains with best fighters in the world

He definetely isn't a "nobody" and @ his age has a lot more knowledge and experience than Brendan. He is just a talented person and didn't want to risk his health by taking a lot of damage, I mean he said it himself on the podcast that he started getting headaches and so on and thats when he decided to quit competing.

[ho_124]

schaub should of brought up how rogan looked like a purple old man during post fight interviews and how he should give up on commentating and stick to his mediocre comedy shows.

LOL lawd... Rogan's age is definitely catching up to him. Also he seems to talk out of his ass a lot, about the brain damage etc.

[TypicalGamer]

[cheerupemokid]

For real, Joe's just jealous because he never made it in the fight game and didn't have the heart to keep going. Plenty of the greats got knocked out in one of their first few fights, but Joe used it as an excuse to quit.

Joe makes it seem like he was some accomplished fighter or something, but you never hear actual legends talking like that. He only competed in tae kwon do, and has only THREE kickboxing matches.

Despite all the jokes about Schaub, he actually is one of the better athletes in a shallow division, and is a perfect gatekeeper.

To be fair, there wasn't a UFC when he stopped fighting and there wasn't a ton of money to be made as a professional kickboxer back then. And he chose a career path that has made him a multimillionaire, so the notion that he is jealous seems pretty absurd to me.

And Schaub needs to win a fight to be a gatekeeper. One more loss and he could find himself in Bellator trying to earn his way back to the UFC which would be rough for a HW in his 30's.

His buddy looked like garbage against a guy who got outclassed on his feet by Fabricio Werdum and took a ton of shots to the head. Even if he's a perfect gatekeeper is that really worth 32,000 (and sometimes 64,000) a fight to risk potential brain damage down the road?

[SwimToTheMoon]

Bryan Callen is the perfect example of a snake friend.. Always complimenting and telling Schaub he's one of the greatest fighters and believes in him but when Rogan is around he joins in to chit on him lmao

[CaseyJamess]

On reflection I should have perhaps used a different title for the thread.....

"Joe Rogan is slaming Schaub live right now" could have definitely be taken the wrong way

[PepperedAngus]

some play by play

http://twitter.com/Fight_Ghost

lol @ someone editing the wiki to add Rogan TKO loss to his record.

Its removed now, but was quite funny.

[PeacefulDink]

Done.

post of the year I SWEAR hahahahahahahhha

[JCham]

I think Joe's heart was in the right place but the way he went about it was wrong. You don't stage an intervention on a public forum like that, no matter who's idea it was to do the podcast. Schaub wanted to put on the podcast for his fans and Joe put him on blast. Even when discussing Schaub's future, Joe could have left it at "we're concerned for your health", which is perfectly reasonable to say to a guy who just lost his fight while leaving the comments regarding Schaub being a C-level fighter off the air or at a time a little ways down the road. Besides, this is a conversation that should take place between Schaub and his trainers.

[Trapezeus]

"I think Cain would f*ck you up."

Strong

[PaddleBunt]

Honestly, more people need a friend like Rogan to take them aside and be brutally honest about things. I know guys who train brutally hard at certain sports and it's clear that they just don't have 'it'. Everyone has a genetic threshold that can't be overcome with practice alone. It feels awful to tell someone that they are just phucking themselves up and that they just gonna make it to the level they want.

I'm all for having a dream and chasing it, but the reality is a lot of guys don't make it

[RoccoTanno123]

exactly.

or he can go work construction and work his body until it's so fked that he can't get up. or maybe some stressful job that ruins his body from the inside out and spend all his life in a box, until the bury him in a smaller box.

god forbid he actually fight and try to live a meaningful life to himself, and dream and compete

unlike most fighters, schaub probably has a successful future career ahead of him. he's got a hit podcast and is definitely a good talker. He starts getting all chuck liddell? that future starts to fade away

[olbigfish]

The amount of ignorance in this thread concerning mental health is staggering.

Rogan is completely on the money with his assessment. Guy has had several brutal KO's already and isn't putting it together. No shame in back down while a head.

The main issue with this whole situation is the public venue. Anyone that still has half a brain will realize Joe was spitting red-hot truth to a friend.

[RoccoTanno123]

The amount of ignorance in this thread concerning mental health is staggering.

Rogan is completely on the money with his assessment. Guy has had several brutal KO's already and isn't putting it together. No shame in back down while a head.

The main issue with this whole situation is the public venue. Anyone that still has half a brain will realize Joe was spitting red-hot truth to a friend.

Schaub apparently asked to do it beforehand and pushed for it. Otherwise, I'd completely agree a live public forum was an improper venue.

[cameintodissu]

lol he made sure to add the word heavyweight to cover his bases. People are completely arbitrary as to when they say someone has taken enough damage to consider retiring. Most people calling for his retirement including Joe and Callen are just jealous of him, and want to play a role in knocking him down a peg.

This would be the equivalent of people telling Frank Mir to retire after getting finished by Brock Lesnar. yeah he took a beating, and yeah he never reached the level he was once at, but many of he had some fights that are staples of his career after UFC 100. Increased his earnings, and popularity and therefore his ability to feed himself once he actually does decide to retire.

By the logic people are using to say he should retire, than they should also be calling for the following heavyweights retirement.

Andrei Arvloski
Bigfoot Silva
Ben Rothwell
Alistair Overeem
Gabriel Gonzaga
Frank Mir
Stefan Struve

Except Frank Mir didnt suck balls. That chit was a title fight homeboy. Something Schuab will never achieve. In fact, Frank got one more shot at JDS for the title after that fight.

[DidNotReadL0L]

Honestly, more people need a friend like Rogan to take them aside and be brutally honest about things. I know guys who train brutally hard at certain sports and it's clear that they just don't have 'it'. Everyone has a genetic threshold that can't be overcome with practice alone. It feels awful to tell someone that they are just phucking themselves up and that they just gonna make it to the level they want.

I'm all for having a dream and chasing it, but the reality is a lot of guys don't make it

but what if that person enjoys it and makes a comfortable living doing it? Who is Rogan to tell any man or woman to give up on their dream? It's not like schaub is some local dude making 500 to fight 500 to win. He makes a living that is above average salary.

[DATNEWNEWNEW]

To be fair, there wasn't a UFC when he stopped fighting and there wasn't a ton of money to be made as a professional kickboxer back then. And he chose a career path that has made him a multimillionaire, so the notion that he is jealous seems pretty absurd to me.

And Schaub needs to win a fight to be a gatekeeper. One more loss and he could find himself in Bellator trying to earn his way back to the UFC which would be rough for a HW in his 30's.

His buddy looked like garbage against a guy who got outclassed on his feet by Fabricio Werdum and took a ton of shots to the head. Even if he's a perfect gatekeeper is that really worth 32,000 (and sometimes 64,000) a fight to risk potential brain damage down the road?

do you believe everything Joe says? yeah there wasn't a lot of money in kickboxing back then, but then why even start in the first place if you were thinking like that. he's full of chit. he 'retired' because he got ktfo in his 3rd fight and didn't believe he could get better, not because of money or any other BS he likes to say.

half of the chit he said to schaub was completely unnecessary, and was stuff you'd expect to find on internet forums. 'you telegraph, it's obvious what you're going to do' okay? even if that's true, that's something that can be improved.


Joe's also jealous because he also always wanted to be seen as a fitness type guy, and Schaub is a natural 6'4 200+lb jock, something Joe envies.

[DATNEWNEWNEW]

Bryan Callen is the perfect example of a snake friend.. Always complimenting and telling Schaub he's one of the greatest fighters and believes in him but when Rogan is around he joins in to chit on him lmao

inb4 Callen wrestled in high school, so he knows enough to tell a professional fighter when to retire.

i mean if tae kwan do is enough, then why not wrestling?

[DFS200]

inb4 Callen wrestled in high school, so he knows enough to tell a professional fighter when to retire.

i mean if tae kwan do is enough, then why not wrestling?

Have you ever trained before? Anybody who has ever, at any time, been punched in the head hard should be considered knowledgeable enough to know that the sport isn't good for brain health/general longevity.

[olbigfish]

Have you ever trained before? Anybody who has ever, at any time, been punched in the head hard should be considered knowledgeable enough to know that the sport isn't good for brain health/general longevity.

Don't feed him. You'll get self-inflicted head trauma.