EOMRAT....Army poser bust?...care to comment?

[poundXpound]

It's an odd thing, this idea of pretending to be in the military or in law enforcement. I won't claim to really understand it, but I will say that it doesn't make me angry. I always end up feeling really bad for the poser. I wish that people could look at their own lives and their own accomplishments and take pride in what they've done. Maybe you haven't solved a crime, or put out a fire, or jumped out of an airplane, or whatever... But everybody should have something that they are proud of.

I also think that this phenomenon speaks to the over-glamorization of military service.




BTW


We had a long time poster here who admitted to wearing combat awards that he was not authorised. Joliet something

Joliet Kiev?

[Wayne Evans]

Well it's been done in Israel.....

I'd keep my distance from those ladies that's for damn sure.
I hate the thought that regions of the world have come to this but they live in some hellish, volatile turf.

Sad state this world is in I'm sorry to say.

[DuracellBunny]

Non issue DB....any post here is welcome weed hopper.

Regarding OTL's comment I think that needs to be considered because we do live in a 'culture of fear and mistrust'.
And, it's a global fear now vs. regional problem areas.
I don't have answers either but IMO we must not be naive in today's world.
In the real world if one desires to survive one must adapt and overcome and not live life based on lofty ideals.
One's foe does not adhere to any ROE as we would like.

Carry on....

There have already been some changes. Our police force, unlike yours, isn't routinely armed, but the ones that are armed are not messing around. I can walk in to any airport, large train station or a number of other public places and every police officer I see in there has a H&K sub-machinegun, plus what I think is a sig.

Regarding the armed services, I know that they can hold a loaded weapon and stand in the street, because the guards outside military facilities are military personnel, not police (I sometimes take contracts with the MoD (what you would term the DoD), so I see them pretty often). Allowing off duty personnel to be armed off base would, afaik, require a change in the law which no major UK political party would ever put forward.

[Wayne Evans]

There have already been some changes. Our police force, unlike yours, isn't routinely armed, but the ones that are armed are not messing around. I can walk in to any airport, large train station or a number of other public places and every police officer I see in there has a H&K sub-machinegun, plus what I think is a sig.

I'm glad to hear they're 'not messing around'.
No point in issuing weapons to protect the public if hands are tied with ludicrous ROE criteria.

The world continues to sink into an abyss of religious violence and overall disrespect for societal laws.
I know that's a very general statement but that's how I see it.

Hmmm....did I say I don't have any real remedies either.

[pharmamarketer]

Joliet Kiev?

He is a douchebag. Whiney, lying sac of shti

I remember seeing some shti on here and he got caught in a bunch of lies.

[V-240]

That guy should stick to impersonating the Sta-Puft Marshmallow Man.

I’m proud of the very small role I played in the service. Nothing wrong with being the guy who washed airplanes, later graduating to mostly replacing light bulbs on the same planes (P-3C Orions). I never felt the need to embellish. I tell people, don’t thank me, thank the ones who came home damaged or didn’t come home at all.

I lost some friends in a crash in 1978 when they had to ditch their aircraft into the Bering Sea. It was awful. Those are the guys I think about on Memorial Day.

[so-tex]

He is a douchebag. Whiney, lying sac of shti

I remember seeing some shti on here and he got caught in a bunch of lies.

He is a douchebag. I don't remember the lies, but he sure was a whinie little prick.
I have zero respect for a guy that stays home ( supposedly pstd) while the wife brings home the bacon.

[Wayne Evans]

I’m proud of the very small role I played in the service. Nothing wrong with being the guy who washed airplanes, later graduating to mostly replacing light bulbs on the same planes (P-3C Orions). I never felt the need to embellish. I tell people, don’t thank me, thank the ones who came home damaged or didn’t come home at all.
I lost some friends in a crash in 1978 when they had to ditch their aircraft into the Bering Sea. It was awful. Those are the guys I think about on Memorial Day.

IMO...you should be.
You gave the feds a blank check just like the rest of us.

My buddy (old band mate/bass player) flew in P3's also during '69-'70 and did a stop or two in Cam Ranh bay air field.
They're dinosaurs now with the P8 (I think) taking it's place.
I'd guess it a flying floor of computer interfaces now and few tucked into cramped compartments.

He also mentioned some horrific P3 crash in San Diego area IIRC.
I don't remember it as I got out in '69.

Thanks to all for contributing....on spread for those I didn't hit.

Well....time to depart.
I'm off to a company Xmas party (old friend I work part time for) at Campo di Bocce in Los Gatos for open bar, endless dark beer, mega plates of food and my embarrassing attempt at playing bacce ball.

A safe evening to all....imbibe safely.

[JediRN]

I agree with you though... I don't really rage at stolen valor, I feel more pity.

That's my feelings on poosers too. But if someone else does want to rage on them I don't think I'd be too sympathetic to the poser.

play stupid games..

[thefullmonte]

He got what he deserved but I feel sorry for lonely people like that. What a mess his oatmeal brain must be

I didn't see it mentioned.....but the young man had been busted once before for something similar. I have to think that there's probably something in preteen there we don't know about as well.

I won't comment on my opinion of the guy filming. I'll just say FAR worse happened to people that did this in prior generations.

[grouchyjarhead]

I saw this, and was glad the vet called him out.

You can see his bootlaces hanging out like a turd as well as it looks like he has no undershirt on (probably hard to find one in his size).

Apparently this same guy was arrested for impersonating a dead Philly police officer too in the past.

[sojomojo]

This thread reminded me of the suicide of Admiral Jeremy Boorda (Chief of Naval Operations) after he was caught wearing ribbons that he did not earn: http://articles.latimes.com/1996-11-...1_suicide-note

[Marius_Ursus]

Yetman was known as Secret Agent Orange back in 'Nam before he lost his legs.

Well it's been done in Israel.....

Seeing that stuff first hand puts a lot into perspective.

[Wayne Evans]

but the young man had been busted once before for something similar.

Yes...after revisiting this thread this morning I discovered he pleaded guilty to impersonating a police officer.

Thanks to you and Marius (on spread) for contributing.

Carry on....

[Marius_Ursus]

He probably feels pretty bad about himself if he had to make up that kind of history.

[Wayne Evans]

He probably feels pretty bad about himself if he had to make up that kind of history.

IMO....he should.
If one isn't happy with one's self they should probably choose a more benign sac of lies to perpetuate.
Or, actually pursue something and earn integrity for one's sense of character.
The humility of getting caught pulling something of this nature will follow him for some time and would never be forgivable to most.
But, I've been wrong in the past.

Oh...I forgot to comment on "Yetman was known as Secret Agent Orange back in 'Nam before he lost his legs".
He looks so young so he must have been in Nam prenatally then the Agent Orange made him fat and dishonest.

Back at it....

[Marius_Ursus]

Tongue in cheek.

[Wayne Evans]

Tongue in cheek.

That's a good chuckle.
Well...I'm reasonably familiar with much of Chu Lai north but never heard of "Zang Dang" hamlet, province, fire base or LZ.
Hmmm...it must be in super south Viet Nam or it was named after I left.

Thanks....

[FearNoHardship]

we had a situation like this in canada recently. where some guy was dressed up in uniform at the war memorial during remembrance day. its not as common up here though.

never understood people that do that.

[DuracellBunny]

The British SAS are based in a place called Hereford. Women I know who grew up in Hereford tell me that nearly every pub there has some young idiot claiming to be SAS to try and impress women.

[Wayne Evans]

The British SAS are based in a place called Hereford. Women I know who grew up in Hereford tell me that nearly every pub there has some young idiot claiming to be SAS to try and impress women.

Pretty laughable.

There is an old post on the USMC site I hang out at as I do here.
The post was 'How do you spot a phony SEAL?'
My reply was 'one that boasts of being one'.
Generally speaking, many who boast the most have done the least so believing half of what one sees and none of what one hears is applicable to the above also.

Carry on....

EDIT: I guess I can only hope his play to get some didn't work.

[DuracellBunny]

Pretty laughable.

There is an old post on the USMC site I hang out at as I do here.
The post was 'How do you spot a phony SEAL?'
My reply was 'one that boasts of being one'.
Generally speaking, many who boast the most have done the least so believing half of what one sees and none of what one hears is applicable to the above also.

Carry on....

I can't remember where the quote is from, but there is one that is very applicable to this:

Those who know do not speak and those who speak do not know.

[Wayne Evans]

Those who know do not speak and those who speak do not know.

I don't recall that one but...yes...also quite applicable and I'll remember that one.

Thx....

[sojomojo]

A couple of years ago, there was the murder trial of Chad Wallin-Reed that was featured on NBC-TV Dateline. His defense was that he was a “former Army Ranger whose instincts and combat training kicked in” and he was “in the zone” when he pursued and killed someone. As a combat veteran suffering from PTSD, many thought that Wallin-Reed would get the benefit of the doubt.

That defense fell apart when the prosecutor obtained Wallin-Reed’s military service record. It turns out, he was not an Army Ranger. He never served in combat. He never completed his full military service commitment after being forced out of the Army because he continually impersonated an Army Ranger.

http://www.nbcnews.com/video/dateline/53319498#53319498

http://militaryjusticeforall.com/201...-murder-trial/

[Wayne Evans]

His defense was that he was a “former Army Ranger whose instincts and combat training kicked in” and he was “in the zone” when he pursued and killed someone. As a combat veteran suffering from PTSD, many thought that Wallin-Reed would get the benefit of the doubt....
prosecutor obtained Wallin-Reed’s military service record. It turns out, he was not an Army Ranger. He never served in combat. He never completed his full military service commitment after being forced out of the Army because he continually impersonated an Army Ranger.

Holy shvt....the irony.

Thx...carry on....

[so-tex]

The British SAS are based in a place called Hereford. Women I know who grew up in Hereford tell me that nearly every pub there has some young idiot claiming to be SAS to try and impress women.

I can't understand why people would claim who they're not.
If you really want to impress the ladies in the bar, why not stuff a sock down your crotch.

[Phattso]

I can't understand why people would claim who they're not.
If you really want to impress the ladies in the bar, why not stuff a sock down your crotch.

We can't understand, but if you think about it, it is genuine fraud. People steal and take other people's identities and commit crimes. We do not understand because we have values. Criminals do not have values or empathy toward others.

[Nikonguy]

The British SAS are based in a place called Hereford. Women I know who grew up in Hereford tell me that nearly every pub there has some young idiot claiming to be SAS to try and impress women.

What's the color of the boathouse at Hereford?

[Cass40]

If you really want to impress the ladies in the bar, why not stuff a sock down your crotch.

This is so true!

Stuffed sock always works.

If you want to impress me just stuff a sock down your crotch and I will be buying YOU drinks all night....And I will take you home with me at the end of the night.

Sry..continue...

[Karl_Hungus]

This is so true!

Stuffed sock always works.

If you want to impress me just stuff a sock down your crotch and I will be buying YOU drinks all night....And I will take you home with me at the end of the night.

Sry..continue...

I used to stuff socks down my pants to try and impress the ladies, but it never worked. After years of doing this, someone told me that I was supposed to stuff the sock down the front of my pants, not the back.