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    adrenal fatigue in general. .
    That's because (i) there is no established way of measuring adrenal fatigue, and (ii) more importantly, the medical community at large doesn't think it exists (if you can't measure it, it doesn't exist, sort of thing).
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    OP you don't have adrenal fatigue / Addison's disease. you're probably stressed from the sudden lifestyle change (law school etc), continue taking melatonin if you find it helps you sleep.
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    Originally Posted by MIP89 View Post

    I'm pretty sure that weight training increases cortisol which can cause stress
    Actually the opposite; cortisol is the primary mechanism your body uses to shut off the stress response (via negative feedback).

    OP: did you quit caffeine before the symptoms started?
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    Other questions:

    1) Do you get panic attacks at the gym, or only at night in bed?
    2) Are you/were you dieting at all?
    3) Do you/did you take any other stimulants/drugs (besides caffeine?)?
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    OP, I had same thing happen. What worked for me:
    -deep deep breathing (meditating)
    -low intensity cardio, not to pump heart too fast, cause it would freak me out when I would hear heartbeat. Again,, exaggerating on breathing.
    -herbal teas
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    Panic attacks are a cycle once you have one you freak out from any symptoms of anxiety. It's a vicious cycle
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    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    Panic attacks are a cycle once you have one you freak out from any symptoms of anxiety. It's a vicious cycle
    this. it sucks
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    Originally Posted by jp973156 View Post
    Other questions:

    1) Do you get panic attacks at the gym, or only at night in bed?
    2) Are you/were you dieting at all?
    3) Do you/did you take any other stimulants/drugs (besides caffeine?)?
    I only get panic attacks at night when I go to bed. I was taking HCGenerate (test booster)- last one was 5 weeks ago but have since stopped. I was also taking Ginseng but have since stopped that as well.

    I was dieting but I stopped. I stopped all the things that should affect me but I still have the symptoms wtf
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    Originally Posted by blowwzilla View Post
    OP, I had same thing happen. What worked for me:
    -deep deep breathing (meditating)
    -low intensity cardio, not to pump heart too fast, cause it would freak me out when I would hear heartbeat. Again,, exaggerating on breathing.
    -herbal teas
    which herbal tea do you recommend?
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    Originally Posted by spark213 View Post
    why da fuq am I experiencing benzo withdrawals when I have never taken benzo's? could it be nofap/ caffeine withdrawals? how long did it take to go away?

    It's you haven't touched benzos then you're not but if you do, you can make things much worse so I'm just warning you, especially since if you see a shrink about GAD that's pretty much what he/she will prescribe you. It's been over a year and a half and my sleep is still not 100% Srs when I first stopped taking that junk though I was sleeping about a half hour every other day and there was a few times where I didn't sleep for 6 days straight. Stay safe brah
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    The adrenals are directly correlated to anxiety. So exercising while having adrenal fatigue makes the symptoms worse. Especially if you overtrain, you will just weaken an already failing adrenal so the symptoms will just get worse. so I would work on repairing your endocrine glands especially the adrenal glands as the biggest priority. Youll need to buy adrenal glandulars. Don't waste time/money on any vitamins or supps as you'll just be treating the symptoms when in reality it is your glands that need to be repaired.

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    You got a habit of eating late? You do any meditation? I'd suggest dropping the former and starting on the latter in that case. Could perhaps give you a beneficial nudge - I know it did for me. Have your last meal no later than 3-4 hours prior to bed.
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    OP, why not do a different routine? At the very least you can reduce the volume of your current routine.

    Instead of doing 4 sets do 2. Instead of training 4x weekly, back it off to 2x or 3x.
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    Crazy anxiety threads with people having the exact same problems as I did lol. It will go away over time op lay off stimulants and take it easy.

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    adrenal fatigue is not 'real'...... lmao at believing in it.
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    Originally Posted by JimmyHardBoobs View Post
    Crazy anxiety threads with people having the exact same problems as I did lol. It will go away over time op lay off stimulants and take it easy.

    It's hard to believe its all in your head but it is.
    scared to close your eyes? thought you were hearing ****? ringing in your ears?
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    Originally Posted by JimmyHardBoobs View Post
    Crazy anxiety threads with people having the exact same problems as I did lol. It will go away over time op lay off stimulants and take it easy.

    It's hard to believe its all in your head but it is.
    How long did it take? I get these periodically where it's real bad and then it just goes awat one day. Been feeling like I'm gonna die the last week lol
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    So you had a lot of things going on in your life, and there was probably some interaction going on (which neither you, me, your doctor, or anyone), which you are unlikely to ever really figure out. It triggered something that will probably be here for a while, and you are just going to have to deal with it. Avoid all the talk about neurotransmitters, adrenal fatigue, etc., it's not going to be even remotely helpful for solving your situation. What you are describing sounds like panic attacks, but diagnosing humans is not my specialty (and I doubt it is for anyone here as well). Since your doctor thinks you are otherwise healthy it seems, and I'm guessing the EEG/stress test will confirm that (they will rule out worst-case scenario first), you need to do the following things:

    1. Find a cognitive-behavioral therapists and discuss this with them. Continue contact with your GPP to rule out other things, but assume that you are having panic attacks. I am recommending this because CBT is extremely effective at treating anxiety-related disorders.
    2. Panic attacks often operate on a feed-forward type mechanism. You have them, and you dwell on it, and then you start having them more often. No one knows what causes panic attacks (CO2 regulation in some people might be off). I am a neuroscientist and I can tell you that flat out (I study the neurobiology of stress).
    3. For most people, panic attacks will eventually go away. This is something you need to remind yourself. This won't be here forever. No one knows, nor will they likely be able to figure out why it's happening to you, but that's okay. Just ride it out, and know that it won't kill you, and some day it will be gone (I used to have panic disorder - if that is what you have - again it requires diagnosis).

    I've had the same problems described here when I started trying to cut last year. I've always been a bit prone to anxiety. I cut out everything and it got worst temporarily. It last for about 2 months - panic attacks daily. I'm actually glad it happened in hindsight because I'm currently the healthiest I've ever been and it allowed me to kick a lot of bad habits.
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    Originally Posted by Num3n View Post
    adrenal fatigue is not 'real'...... lmao at believing in it.
    Give it whatever label you want, but if it's not real, why do so many people have the exact same symptoms as OP, and notice some relief from the same exact types of treatment. I'm sure a decade or two from now the medical field will know alot more about the condition
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    So you had a lot of things going on in your life, and there was probably some interaction going on (which neither you, me, your doctor, or anyone), which you are unlikely to ever really figure out. It triggered something that will probably be here for a while, and you are just going to have to deal with it. Avoid all the talk about neurotransmitters, adrenal fatigue, etc., it's not going to be even remotely helpful for solving your situation. What you are describing sounds like panic attacks, but diagnosing humans is not my specialty (and I doubt it is for anyone here as well). Since your doctor thinks you are otherwise healthy it seems, and I'm guessing the EEG/stress test will confirm that (they will rule out worst-case scenario first), you need to do the following things:

    1. Find a cognitive-behavioral therapists and discuss this with them. Continue contact with your GPP to rule out other things, but assume that you are having panic attacks. I am recommending this because CBT is extremely effective at treating anxiety-related disorders.
    2. Panic attacks often operate on a feed-forward type mechanism. You have them, and you dwell on it, and then you start having them more often. No one knows what causes panic attacks (CO2 regulation in some people might be off). I am a neuroscientist and I can tell you that flat out (I study the neurobiology of stress).
    3. For most people, panic attacks will eventually go away. This is something you need to remind yourself. This won't be here forever. No one knows, nor will they likely be able to figure out why it's happening to you, but that's okay. Just ride it out, and know that it won't kill you, and some day it will be gone (I used to have panic disorder - if that is what you have - again it requires diagnosis).

    I've had the same problems described here when I started trying to cut last year. I've always been a bit prone to anxiety. I cut out everything and it got worst temporarily. It last for about 2 months - panic attacks daily. I'm actually glad it happened in hindsight because I'm currently the healthiest I've ever been and it allowed me to kick a lot of bad habits.

    thanks for the awesome insight. will do all steps mentioned. I have 8 more days of finals and then I will be able to relax all Christmas break. hope that helps
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    Give it whatever label you want, but if it's not real, why do so many people have the exact same symptoms as OP, and notice some relief from the same exact types of treatment. I'm sure a decade or two from now the medical field will know alot more about the condition
    It's not "real" because it can't be "measured". If you can't measure something it doesn't exist. That's a basic foundation of science. If we can't measure something, then how can we diagnose someone with it?
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    any supplements that can help? valerian root?
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    how much caffeine do you consume?

    I use to take like 600 mg a day, and when I stopped it felt horrible srs

    What helped was something called adrenal restore, or something like that

    you can find similar products online
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    I used to have crazy anxiety.....I dont have much anymore.
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    Adrenal fatigue is just a label for the symptoms that come with a weak adrenal gland.

    Like how depression often comes with a weak thyroid.

    Weak adrenal gland = weak nervous system = anxiety
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    I personally think it comes from boredom. Although life might seem ok I think at some point your body just gets tired of routine and then it all hits you at once. I know I have been feeling really bored lately which causes stress and panic. Your body might just feel down but will eventually rebound and all this will go away.
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    Originally Posted by thetrebel View Post
    how much caffeine do you consume?

    I use to take like 600 mg a day, and when I stopped it felt horrible srs

    What helped was something called adrenal restore, or something like that

    you can find similar products online
    ALOT of caffeine. I would drink 2 cups of coffee in a day and often energy drinks
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    Originally Posted by pacmane View Post
    Adrenal fatigue is just a label for the symptoms that come with a weak adrenal gland.

    Like how depression often comes with a weak thyroid.

    Weak adrenal gland = weak nervous system = anxiety
    Are the adrenal gland levels checked in blood work? My doctor said all my levels were normal
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    Originally Posted by eod8989 View Post
    Are the adrenal gland levels checked in blood work? My doctor said all my levels were normal
    It gets measured by a cortisol test I think either hair follicles or saliva
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