uk brahs who vote ukip, lets have an intelligent discussion.

[shook11]

Some gibberish from their website (I can't bring myself to call them 'policies'). Discrimination against people who are not white British ('local grandparents')? Discrimination against job applicants with foreign names? 'Putting Britain First' - is that not where Britain First's and BNP (hardcore right wing fascists) name comes from? Claiming that being told off for using racial slurs is 'suppressing free speech'? What are they on?


check their website, cant post links.


Prioritise social housing for people whose parents and grandparents were born locally.

- Businesses should be able to discriminate in favour of young British workers.

- No to Political Correctness - it stifles free speech.

- UKIP is a patriotic party that believes in putting Britain first.


Let's face it, the only people who will vote for them are those who dont actually look at the racist policies this party has, and thinks that immigration is the only problem in the whole country. I cant see farage leading the UK.

[chr0nik]

Some gibberish from their website (I can't bring myself to call them 'policies'). Discrimination against people who are not white British ('local grandparents')? Discrimination against job applicants with foreign names? 'Putting Britain First' - is that not where Britain First's and BNP (hardcore right wing fascists) name comes from? Claiming that being told off for using racial slurs is 'suppressing free speech'? What are they on?


check their website, cant post links.


Prioritise social housing for people whose parents and grandparents were born locally.

- Businesses should be able to discriminate in favour of young British workers.

- No to Political Correctness - it stifles free speech.

- UKIP is a patriotic party that believes in putting Britain first.



Let's face it, the only people who will vote for them are those who dont actually look at the racist policies this party has, and thinks that immigration is the only problem in the whole country. I cant see farage leading the UK.

Care to mention one of their "racist" policies?

I'm Chilean/Italian and I've been in the UK for 17 years and I'll be voting for them.

[sebbarfield]

Strong 1rd post

[JamieCheddar]

intelligent discussion with a red ok

[Malakaibeats]

Care to mention one of their "racist" policies?

I'm Chilean/Italian and I've been in the UK for 17 years and I'll be voting for them.

Italian Brit here and my entire family is voting UKIP.

[shook11]

Care to mention one of their "racist" policies?

I'm Chilean/Italian and I've been in the UK for 17 years and I'll be voting for them.

you will get discriminated against if you grandparents werent born locally. Read the bloody policies before voting for a party

[CalvesofPeace94]

In on ukip thread

[hewhodar3s]

First post, attacking UKIP...with EU paid shills on the loose this is very suspicious indeed!

[shook11]

The problem with UKIP is:

1. Nigel Farage is an excellent speaker and if tour out of a job it gives a great excuse for why things aren't better. UKIP are using the EU and immigrants like the Nazis used Jews as an excuse to why the economy isn't great and job problems. And if you get told something enough tines you'll start to believe it. ( quite funny how Mr Farage's Wife is an EU immigrant and is his secretary, taking up a British workers job ( in the UKIP way of thinking)).

2. Most of those who support UKIP can't really see through the anti-EU and anti-immigration policies e.g. privatising the NHS, reduced workers rights etc. UKIP seem to be jumping to policy which may be "popular" just to gain popularity.

3. Some people don't see how bad they are as MEP's for example: one of the big things for the EU parliament UKIP manifesto was UK fishing, Mr Farage already sat on the main body for that and has done for the last 4 years, yet he has turned about 3/4 times and has never actually tried to do anything about it. And he has made about £4 million through EU expenses.

[shook11]

First post, attacking UKIP...with EU paid shills on the loose this is very suspicious indeed!

Hardly attacking. More like looking at things objectively.

[shook11]

The reason I posted was because I have never, EVER met a UKIP voter who was not obsessed with the 'Islamification' of the UK, who was not pissed off about 'too many ****ing mosques here innit', who did not believe that black people had little right to be here. (Hilarious, actually, because most Muslims are not a part of the EU and are here either because they were born here, or because they entered on the points-based system the UK's had for ages.)

the way UKIP deals with social issues is pretty horrible. Maternity pay, workers' rights, LGBT rights... wanting to scrap the Department for Sport Media and Culture and the one for Green Energy and Climate (??)... wanting to discriminate against workers with foreign names or a foreign heritage... don't even know.

So, yeah, I've never met a sane, educated person who supports UKIP. That's not to say some of their policies arent good.

[hewhodar3s]

Hardly attacking. More like looking at things objectively.

You aren't doing that you're telling blatant lies which I have seen a thousand times on the likes of Twitter.

Anyway let's talk about how there are groups out there paying people to mess around in democracy.





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[EnglishRay]

Why have you joined bb.com specifically to talk about this? Aren't there some political forums you can join?

[shook11]

Additionally, UKIP:
- do not support workers' rights
- do not support maternity or paternity leave
- complain how both of the above make life difficult for businesses
- have said nothing about the minimum wage, or the benefit system, or building more houses, or raising taxes on the super-wealthy / making sure they pay them; they used to have a flat-rate 31% tax policy, now it's some other kerfuffle, nothing is well thought-out and the tax cut for those earning circa 40k seems to have been pulled out of thin air
- their members and councillors keep muttering about making the NHS more and more like the "business model" of the USA
- used to have a policy of funding university education through vouchers (??) and now they say they will fund all STEM degrees (lol ok) - seriously, none of their policies are thought through at all, they just keep changing their tune in order to steal votes from people, it's ridiculous

Just because Nigel drinks like a fish and smokes like a chimney and complains about having to be respectful nowadays ("that PC crap, liberal propaganda, wah wah) and pisses around at his job all day doing nothing useful (probably the worst and most inefficient MEP of all time - if he really hated it so much, then he would get off his arse and start campaigning for reform in the EU, start negotiating the terms of a referendum, etc)

It makes him the greatest conman of the 21st century.

[shook11]

Why have you joined bb.com specifically to talk about this? Aren't there some political forums you can join?

I visited this site and saw some UKIP talk, just wanted to share my view.

[seanmaehwa]

whats your real account name?

[Malakaibeats]

I visited this site and saw some UKIP talk, just wanted to share my view.

What a coincidence...

[chr0nik]

you will get discriminated against if you grandparents werent born locally. Read the bloody policies before voting for a party

How? I've never been discriminated since coming here and suddenly it'll happen if UKIP gets elected?

I support UKIP because this country is a mess thanks to the inmigration policies... it's funny how some people are ok with a family od 15 from ****lia claming a **** loads of benefits and not working and are against people voting for the best interest of their country.

[seanmaehwa]

What a coincidence...

exactly. he's full of it. just a coward to use his real account for fear of losing green squares

[Malakaibeats]

it's funny how some people are ok with a family od 15 from ****lia claming a **** loads of benefits and not working and are against people voting for the best interest of their country.

It's called media indoctrination and it's a very effective tool when used on people of below-par intelligence.

[hewhodar3s]

How? I've never been discriminated since coming here and suddenly it'll happen if UKIP gets elected?

I support UKIP because this country is a mess thanks to the inmigration policies... it's funny how some people are ok with a family od 15 from ****lia claming a **** loads of benefits and not working and are against people voting for the best interest of their country.

Made you green!

[chr0nik]

I bet he supports the people who during the last election pledged not to raise tuition fees and then did the opposite when in coalition.

[S0LID]

Labor were guaranteed a win until they put that guy in charge who can't talk properly.

[shook11]

I bet he supports the people who during the last election pledged not to raise tuition fees and then did the opposite when in coalition.

Yeah because i'd do that while at uni, great logic.

[BrocepCurls]

They want to privatise the NHS, no one wants that

[londonirish]

Labor were guaranteed a win until they put that guy in charge who can't talk properly.

The longer this idiot is in charge, the better for UKIP..and Tories for that matter. And indeed for the whole country. After what Labour did when they were in government, how can anyone honestly vote for them?!

[hewhodar3s]

They want to privatise the NHS, no one wants that

People like you are the reason LibLabCon politcians and the media lie to us. You're unable to think for yourself so you take propaganda as the gospel truth. As you rightly say, not many people want NHS privitisation so why the hell do you think people would vote for UKIP if their policy was to get rid of the NHS?

[shook11]

The longer this idiot is in charge, the better for UKIP..and Tories for that matter. And indeed for the whole country. After what Labour did when they were in government, how can anyone honestly vote for them?!

labour did ok actually.. most parties supported what they did, only after the tories won did they start attacking labour, and i dont even vote for them

[Malakaibeats]

The longer this idiot is in charge, the better for UKIP..and Tories for that matter. And indeed for the whole country. After what Labour did when they were in government, how can anyone honestly vote for them?!

This, lol.

I want Milliband as the face of Labour, there's no one better suited to destroy it.

Keep up the good work Ed!

[shook11]

Fact is, soon people will see through farage except the hurr durr working class