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    1700 Calories per day, but I'm still sooo hungry.

    Starting up a cut again. Myfitnesspal recommends 1700 calories a day for a loss of 2lbs per week, already lost 5lbs(probably some water weight, but still yay!!). Here is the problem, I am feeling pretty hungry still. I have tried filling up on Culvers Chicken Cashew salad without cheese, tomatoes(gross), and dressing. Once I have spent up my caloric limit during the day I am still very hungry at night and Can't sleep. I have take some steps...

    1. Drink only water or 0 calorie beverages, mostly water and coffee.
    2. Eating Salads more often

    Any people have some advice? The main problem is feeling hungry at night and not being able to sleep.

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    Eat more fibrous stuff and oats.


    Oats fill you up real good.
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    Originally Posted by TheAntiMonitor View Post
    Eat more fibrous stuff and oats.


    Oats fill you up real good.
    Thats actually a good idea, I believe plain oatmeal is very low calorie too. I'll have to look it up.
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    Is your tdee really that low? I'm assuming you're male. 1700 is VERY low. I'd look into that.. what are your macros
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    yeah, mfp's cal recommendations are complete bullchit, way too low, your tdee should be at least 3000. 1700 intake for someone of your stats is just pitiful lol
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    Originally Posted by ACSZZ1988 View Post
    Is your tdee really that low? I'm assuming you're male. 1700 is VERY low. I'd look into that.. what are your macros
    Not gonna lie, I wasn't really counting macro's. Just plain ol' calories.
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    Originally Posted by Groce View Post
    yeah, mfp's cal recommendations are complete bullchit, way too low, your tdee should be at least 3000. 1700 intake for someone of your stats is just pitiful lol
    Do you have a recommended site or app? I was wondering about this as well.
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    You do realize that if you're tracking calories accurately on myfitnesspal then the macronutrients are also been tracked. Pay attention to the. Make sure you're hitting your protein and fat minimums. Eat foods that will provide you with more satiety. There is no reason that you should be eating as few as 1700 calories. I'm 4 inches shorter and just over 80 lbs lighter than you and I eat over 1700 calories while still losing weight. Reevaluate your game plan.
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    Pay close attention to the type of calories you are eating. For example, around 50 grams of pork sausage is about 200 calories, but the a fairly large bowl of greek yogurt with fresh fruits added is the same amount of calories and probably 4 times the actual amount of food in grams and substance. Also watch out for bread and processed "junk" carbs, they are calorie bombs as well.
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    Originally Posted by mpd165 View Post
    Pay close attention to the type of calories you are eating. For example, around 50 grams of pork sausage is about 200 calories, but the a fairly large bowl of greek yogurt with fresh fruits added is the same amount of calories and probably 4 times the actual amount of food in grams and substance. Also watch out for bread and processed "junk" carbs, they are calorie bombs as well.
    Comparing pork to Greek yogurt is ridiculous. And carbs are carbs, not "junk" carbs. Stop demonizing food.
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    Comparing pork to Greek yogurt is ridiculous. And carbs are carbs, not "junk" carbs. Stop demonizing food.
    It wasnt my intention to demonize anything or to specifically compare pork to yogurt. I just used that as a example of making choices. Clearly there are numerous things that can be substituted there. My intention was to make the OP realize that often one poor choice could account for a large portion of his daily calorie budget and not leave him feeling nearly as full as other choices that may account for a larger portion of food with the same number of calories and simmilar macros as well.
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    Originally Posted by mpd165 View Post
    It wasnt my intention to demonize anything or to specifically compare pork to yogurt. I just used that as a example of making choices. Clearly there are numerous things that can be substituted there. My intention was to make the OP realize that often one poor choice could account for a large portion of his daily calorie budget and not leave him feeling nearly as full as other choices that may account for a larger portion of food with the same number of calories and simmilar macros as well.
    Fair enough on the satiety reasoning. Keep in mind that what you might call junk carbs do have their benefits
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    Great filling snack I have daily is fromage frais 500 ml with honey and an apple 320 cals and 40grms protein less calories than Greek yogurt as normally fat free. Bell peppers ,carrots and grapes also my favourites ...
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    Just stick with it. Your body will get used to it.
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    Everyone is different as far as what it takes to lose. I *maintain* at 1800 and won't lose unless I'm below that. I lost most of my weight on 1600 a day, and I'm 5'10".

    I great "filler" snack for me is the Pop-Secret 100-calorie bags of popcorn (butter flavored). To give it more zing I spray butter-flavored Pam on it and add some salt. I think it tricks my brain into thinking I've had a meal or something, and it's not something that's gone in three bites. I understand, also, that some people have better success managing their hunger by eating bigger meals two or three times a day instead of smaller ones spread throughout the day.
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    IMO you need to figure out your tdee and eat ~500cal below and definitely figure out your macros if you want to maintain muscle. Aim for .5 - 1 lb of weight loss week and get around. .5g fat and 1g protein per lb of lbm. This has worked for me but everyone is different.

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    Look up satiety index - here's one -



    The higher they are, the more they'll fill you up. However it can be different for different people. 800g of potatoes (especially mashed) will fill me up whereas I'd feel starving not long after 800g of pasta.
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    You're telling me. I'm cutting at >1600 and I've been STARVING.

    My mom bought some rotisserie chicken breast from Jewel and it's amazing. Low calorie, and keeps you full. I've noticed, (I know obvious) that if you have as much protein as possible, you'll be pretty damn full. I wasn't hungry at all today and I only had 3(3oz) chicken thighs for lunch. That's not that much. I was pretty full throughout the day. I'm going to stick to mostly protein/fats for my last stretch and see how that goes.
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    Thanks everyone! I took a lot of your suggestions into considerations. The food satiety is sooooo important. I ate steak and potatoes last night and I'm still full this morning. Potatoes are now one of my favorite foods. I also went and bought a bunch of low calorie snacks for when that craving sets in.
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    check out primal diet for some more info on foods to eat (I've been doing basically that and I am rarely hungry anymore and on a decent sized calorie deficit).
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    Why are you cutting on poverty calories? Buy a road bike or something and do some cardio.
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    Why are you cutting on poverty calories? By a road bike or something and do some cardio.
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    Why are you cutting on poverty calories? Buy a road bike or something and do some cardio.
    I don't want to sound too noobish, but what are poverty calories?
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    I don't want to sound too noobish, but what are poverty calories?
    too low calories
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    Originally Posted by Ganning View Post
    I don't want to sound too noobish, but what are poverty calories?
    It's when your calories are very low. It could be due to the small size of the individual therefore TDEE is low to the point where the intake for deficit is very low.

    Or like in your cause you are deliberately eating much lower than necessary caloric intake due to impatience, lack of understanding, stubbornness or whatever the reason is. You are choosing to eat like someone that is 100 lbs lighter than you, just because. Obviously there is a clear reason why you are hungry.
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    Originally Posted by MrM27 View Post
    Or like in your cause you are deliberately eating much lower than necessary caloric intake due to impatience, lack of understanding, stubbornness or whatever the reason is. You are choosing to eat like someone that is 100 lbs lighter than you, just because. Obviously there is a clear reason why you are hungry.

    OP starts diet aggressively, wonders why he is hungry. It's to be expected if you are trying to lose 2 pounds a week OP. You could be a bit less aggressive 1.5 per week and eat a bit more, all comes down to your long term compliance with the diet and good training sessions.

    Meat and potatoes are excellent for satiety, I agree.
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    Originally Posted by MrM27 View Post
    It's when your calories are very low. It could be due to the small size of the individual therefore TDEE is low to the point where the intake for deficit is very low.

    Or like in your cause you are deliberately eating much lower than necessary caloric intake due to impatience, lack of understanding, stubbornness or whatever the reason is. You are choosing to eat like someone that is 100 lbs lighter than you, just because. Obviously there is a clear reason why you are hungry.
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