Any degree harder than a pure Math degree?

[zdream]

acturial science is up there

[jross2021]

Probably harder to be a blazers fan.

[Angra_Mainyu]

hello PDE please rape my face

[CircuitDave24]

Dick sucking degree imo. I can never even get to the balls before I fail.

[ctownballer04]

hello PDE please rape my face

So glad I don't know this feel. Ordinary differential equations was enough for me, I think it was primarily the professor though.

Don't know those partial differential equations feels.

acturial science is up there

Everyone who is going to be actuary at my school does a math degree, then just takes stats and probability classes for the electives.

[HammZ]

Puppetry
yes someone got a masters in that somewhere lol

[cheapWiFi]

Puppetry
yes someone got a masters in that somewhere lol

makes sense

[ctownballer04]

phd's in applied mathematics typically include studying at least one sequence in pure mathematics. there are usually 2 or more qualifying exams one needs to pass, only one of which would be in diffeq (from what I experienced and have seen, anyway), the others to choose from are likely to be: algebra, analysis and topology. so applied guys still need some pure in their lives

The GOAT checked in.


Seriously want to cry this term in Group Theory, I hate it so much. Just want to do probability stuff, and other applied stuff. I liked Calculus a lot so I figure I'll like Analysis more than this.


Was just informed yesterday that they have a full year Abstract Algebra sequence, don't understand how anyone could want to do that. Absolutely not going to follow this up w/ Ring & Field Theory.

[anonymous]

[MusicProducer]

All the super smart physics bros I know knew their math SOLID. But a pure math guy doesn't need to know physics on top of his math. That being said, how can such a conclusion be drawn about whether pure math or physics is more difficult? I mean, the guys who are math scholars are regularly trying to solve some of the most challenging math problems ever. But those are just the scholarly math bros; I literally have no idea what kind of job a typical math major gets if they don't go into scholarly work. Math can obviously be super difficult because the scholarly bros are always trying to tackle problems nobody can solve. The same thing goes for the physics brahs. While the physics bros need to know both math and physics, maybe the math brahs need to know so much different kinds of math that it makes up for the difficulty imbalance for needing to know both math and physics? No idea...

[thisguysrs]

Imo there isn't, and the only degree I'd even consider as a serious consider would be physics.


What do you *******s think is the most difficult degree in undergrad?

"consider as a serious consider"


maybe an english course for you *******

[Jeremy544]

women's studies


understanding women is hard as ****.

[IsThisRealLife]

All the super smart physics bros I know knew their math SOLID. But a pure math guy doesn't need to know physics on top of his math. That being said, how can such a conclusion be drawn about whether pure math or physics is more difficult? I mean, the guys who are math scholars are regularly trying to solve some of the most challenging math problems ever. But those are just the scholarly math bros; I literally have no idea what kind of job a typical math major gets if they don't go into scholarly work. Math is can obviously be super difficult because the scholarly bros are always trying to tackle problems nobody can solve. The same thing goes for the physics brahs. While the physics bros need to know both math and physics, maybe the math brahs need to know so much different kinds of math that it makes up for the difficulty imbalance for needing to know both math and physics? I have no idea...

You just pulled a Jason Genova.

[ctownballer04]

"consider as a serious consider"


maybe an english course for you *******

repped for making me lol.
It's been a very long week.

[Kevlar14]

Astrophysics or engineering solely because they also include math.

I am poverty at math but get by enough to do astrophysics. Not everyone has to be a mathematician. Only those interested in theory need to be amazing at math. I can do observations, process the data in a presentable format, and analyze without ever doing more than integrals. Which I do in software any way. Same with Fourier series. Sure, I passed a course demonstrating I know it. But if I want to smooth a light curve I click a button.

[MusicProducer]

You just pulled a Jason Genova.

How so? I am a professional physics bro... I deal with mathematicians nearly on a daily basis; they seem just as stressed out as I do. How can you measure this sort of thing? There's many different kinds of math and all different sorts of physics. One mathematician may be familiar with 20 different kinds of math while one physicist maybe be familiar with 10 categories of physics, and another physicist an expert in 20 different kinds of physics while the mathematician is at home with 10 different maths. IMO, the whole question of asking which field is more difficult is bogus in the first place. There are too many factors to consider, and "difficulty" is too subjective on a professional level for sure.

Of course you could look at the statistics and see what kinds of grades math majors are pulling compared to physics majors, but this kind of assessment is almost useless on a practical level. I mean, do you want to ask the question "Which subject is more difficult for an undergrad student?" or "Which subject is more 'difficult' for professionals in the math or physics field" (where it really matters). Answers are probably different. It seems as though between the time people finish undergrad and the time they start working on these subjects on a professional level there's a leveling-off effect in "difficulty" just because the physicist and mathematician know so much in their respective fields. Perhaps there's a big gap in difficulty when people are just beginning to learn this stuff but the gap narrows once everybody has a solid hold on the fundamentals and start dealing with the more complex issues.

Reminds me of how when I started learning Mandarin I thought it was challenging as hell (analogous to to the 'undergrad' phase of learning Physics), just because it was so different from Romance languages, but after I got familiar with reading characters and I got used to the pronunciation, learning it was easy because Mandarin's grammar is super-simple compared to English. On the flip side, learning French was easy in the beginning but it got harder and harder because of all the memorization for conjugation and different forms of grammar; it drove me nuts. So it's like... is learning Mandarin harder than learning French? Difficult to answer...

[turokturok5]

neuroscience or pathology, idk about math's degree's but i'm assuming you use formulas to work out problems and such, so if you generally know the formulas you atleast have a chance of passing exams. with biology you either know it or you don't, there's no mid point and theres so many big fking words and concepts in neuroscience and pathology

[BrosPeace]

Who cares? All degrees are easy, that's why thousands of people across hundreds of institutions complete each of them every year.


You know what's hard? Making a difference in your field- not sitting in the background and arguing with the other plebs about which of you satisfactorily completed the most difficult subjects.

[ctownballer04]

Probability is important in algebra and vise versa. One of the things being studied is the probability two random elements from a group commute. Free probabilities are an interesting and current research topic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_probability

Also a probability space is a structure just like any other mathematical structure (closely related to measure spaces). So what youre really sayng is... you like pure math????

I think I'm just overwhelmed this term. Maybe I'll come around to pure math in a few months when I have slightly more experience, less courses, and less stress.

Who cares? All degrees are easy, that's why thousands of people across hundreds of institutions complete each of them every year.


You know what's hard? Making a difference in your field- not sitting in the background and arguing with the other plebs about which of you satisfactorily completed the most difficult subjects.

Oh

[Quizzler]

All undergrad degrees are a joke. Wait until grad school

Physics Crew

[snowyowl]

Physics is the hardest of all. Its closely followed by pure mathematics. Then, it's computer sciences and the hardest engineering degrees (Electrical and software). Then, it's medical degree and chemistry along with the easiest engineering disciplines (Mechanical, civil, etc.). Then, it's biology, or anything in human sciences.

Don't fooled, it's about how you are successful in your respective field that matters, not if it's harder or easier than other fields.

From a graduated student in physics (actually working on complex networks and neuronal action potentials).

[IsThisRealLife]

How so? I am professional physics bro... I deal with mathematicians literally on nearly daily basis; they seem just as stressed out as I do. How can you measure this sort of thing?

All the super smart physics bros I know knew their math SOLID. But a pure math guy doesn't need to know physics on top of his math. That being said, how can such a conclusion be drawn about whether pure math or physics is more difficult? I mean, the guys who are math scholars are regularly trying to solve some of the most challenging math problems ever. But those are just the scholarly math bros; I literally have no idea what kind of job a typical math major gets if they don't go into scholarly work. Math can obviously be super difficult because the scholarly bros are always trying to tackle problems nobody can solve. The same thing goes for the physics brahs. While the physics bros need to know both math and physics, maybe the math brahs need to know so much different kinds of math that it makes up for the difficulty imbalance for needing to know both math and physics? No idea...

Read your post in the Genova voice.

[ctownballer04]

All undergrad degrees are a joke. Wait until grad school

Physics Crew

Don't follow how the 400 level real analysis sequence and abstract algebra sequence could be considered jokes, but okay.jpg

[krazy33]

Lol at people touting their own field as the best. Not denying math is hard..but it's just.. a different form of thinking. Most people are emotional ("social") thinkers.. the regular peeps who are fascinated by their social circle

Focus on dominance and watch your math skills increase by ten-fold. Dominance as in noticing every single original source of the following material, ie what it's composed of. Take things in chunks breaking down small chunks at a time because you recognize whats important/ where things came from.

Eventually you'll be so honed in on every single answer going around in life you'll be so overwhelmed at all the potentialities. .ie become that bumbling socially awkward dude who has a hard time "bringing himself down" to talk because you've boiled everything down to its inception point, and you'll be so overwhelmed at everything thrown at you because your stuck in that always delineating, one answer, mindset. Whom then has to turn to other material and school work to find solace because sociality throws so many complexities into an otherwise methodical presence. If your supersmart math guy isn't already a "mad scientist" he surely has anxiety/depression ..what do other posters say about this?

[ctownballer04]

Lol at people touting their own field as the best. Not denying math is hard..but it's just.. a different form of thinking. Most people are emotional ("social") thinkers.. the regular peeps who are fascinated by their social circle

Focus on dominance and watch your math skills increase by ten-fold. Dominance as in noticing every single original source of the following material, ie what it's composed of. Take things in chunks breaking down small chunks at a time because you recognize whats important/ where things came from.

Eventually you'll be so honed in on every single answer going around in life you'll be so overwhelmed at all the potentialities. .ie become that bumbling socially awkward dude who has a hard time "bringing himself down" to talk because you've boiled everything down to its inception point, and you'll be so overwhelmed at everything thrown at you because your stuck in that always delineating, one answer, mindset. Whom then has to turn to other material and school work to find solace because sociality throws so many complexities into an otherwise methodical presence. If your supersmart math guy isn't already a "mad scientist" he surely has anxiety/depression ..what do other posters say about this?

Not my own field, I am a math major, but not studying pure math outside of what is required (only 4 upper division pure classes required, all my 7 electives are upper division applied classes). Finance is my field primarily.

[snowyowl]

undergrad wise? geophysics IMHO.
graduate wise, pure math by a mile. hell physics is hard because of the math.

Dude, geophysics is the easiest of physics disciplines.

[ctownballer04]

Dude, geophysics is the easiest of physics disciplines.

How far do you have to go in math with a physics degree?

[firechip]

At my university computer science has high drop out rate.

[tk217]

lol'd. Accounting is a joke compared to math/science/engineering

Depends on the accounting - international tax is god awful because of all the rules. And accutuarial accounting is just hard because of the amount of the math - hence it is all computerized now much like engineering.

I do Business Management for a living - but I have to know IT, programming, accounting, HR, tax law, OSHA... and often times some levels of engineering and craft workmenship so I can deal with the engineers and union/craft hall members.

[snowyowl]

How far do you have to go in math with a physics degree?

The common mistake that mathematics students do is to think that physics students aren't rigourous and don't really understand the mathematics they use or only use applied mathematics. Totally wrong.