The Official Powerlifting and Strongman Family Appreciation Thread: Part XVII

[jsullivan93]

Eat more protein.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to kmc06005 again.

[arn710]

Back to real life: Can't seem to get my waking weight to budge. Getting pissed I might end up in the 200s for this thing in Dec.

Just do a water cut doofus. I gave you a recipe yesterday

I get so rustled by so many skinny e-warriors preaching bare minimum

I just don't understand the desire to hit the minimum. Protein is delicious and the essential building block for muscle. If you over shoot, you're out nothing.

[GuinnessStrong]

Yeah, there's conflicting info, it's just the approach that is taken by some of the proponents of both sides that gets me


are you trying to lose or gain?

I want to lose for this one (coming down from like 200 btw just got stuck in the high 180s). I want to see how I move and if I move better at 175. A lot of people have told me I could do well or even win in the class (that was pre-injury though) but I'll just bump back up to 200+ if I bomb the **** out. I have the "body fat" percentage to yield a superlean 175 at my size if I wanted to make the genuine cut and with the wife's help I can hold at that weight for a whole season if I wanted to.

Oh man I'm going to water cut but I've done that for stuff before and goddamn have I seen a whole lot happen to come within 2 lbs of a weight and still not make it. I also have some new awesome health issues (kidneys and liver) that make dehydration super bad news.

[NorthStrong]

Agreed.


So, apparently Zahir is not lifting at 242. Too heavy.

fuak that sucks - the closer this meet has gotten the less good it has shaped up to be.

Malan no full power, Zahir vs Green is off, Byrd not making 198, kinda lame. The weight cutting argument has valid points on both sides but I'd definitely rather see 2hr weigh ins than 24, where the lifters don't even make their desired class.

However, because Andrey Belyaev and Misha Koklyaev are doing full power that pretty much makes up for it I guess.

Also - Zahir's wife hit a massive 240.5kg.

[Mitch666]

"I'm doing Westside"

"I'm doing RTS"

"I'm doing DUP"

SMH

Yea I'll never wrap my head around how people don't get that good programming has elements of all types of periodization in it. That "there is one type of periodization article" should be required reading before posting a program thread

Agreed.


So, apparently Zahir is not lifting at 242. Too heavy.

can't say I didn't see that coming. I know dan walks aroudn way heavier than 242 but zahir looked way bigger (read:fatter) than that

[brotein1992]

Also - Zahir's wife hit a massive 240.5kg.

Is that pic real life?

[CooCooCaChoo]

Speaking of fads, templates, nutrition, and bodybuilding. Some of you may or may not be interested in a quick little spreadsheet I put together based on RP's newest book.

from my journal:

Where was this two weeks ago when I hurt myself doing all the maths?

[dlt76028]

fuak that sucks - the closer this meet has gotten the less good it has shaped up to be.

Malan no full power, Zahir vs Green is off, Byrd not making 198, kinda lame. The weight cutting argument has valid points on both sides but I'd definitely rather see 2hr weigh ins than 24, where the lifters don't even make their desired class.

However, because Andrey Belyaev and Misha Koklyaev are doing full power that pretty much makes up for it I guess.

Also - Zahir's wife hit a massive 240.5kg.

Meets are always anticlimactic.



Dafuq am I looking at!!!!!?

[ErickStevens]

Yea I'll never wrap my head around how people don't get that good programming has elements of all types of periodization in it. That "there is one type of periodization article" should be required reading before posting a program thread

Yeah, Nuckols writes some great stuff.

[kmc06005]

Jason is trolling that Kenny Croxdale guy hard in the explosive thread. It seems like I've been trying to rep him a lot lately.

[kmc06005]

Please watch some Mark Bell videos on how to do this right! It's called engaging the weight and not dropping it kamikaze across your chest! Bell recommends this pause at the base of your chest and not doing a chest bounce which I see so many vids being produced of this misuse of the technique! If you cannot hold the weight firm down at chest level, you are benching way too heavy! Even if you can do one with a pause at the bottom of at least one second, it would be an improvement! Generally, someone counts 1...2...3...4...push (or something like that) Need to develop that stop gap tolerance...My two cents! Lots of chest/lat presses should alleviate the urge to bounce! Bench reps with much lighter weight should reinforce the technique...Have the weight engaged on the lats at all times.

Cheers, KMC

[arn710]

Dafuq am I looking at!!!!!?

dat bulge

[Big Sexy J]

BSJ would be a good person to ask.

Personally, if I competed in wraps I'd do the offseason wrapless and the contest prep wrapped up for my top work sets. If you do week 10, the testing a new PR in the offseason, I would probably wrap up for that.

Please watch some Mark Bell videos on how to do this right! It's called engaging the weight and not dropping it kamikaze across your chest! Bell recommends this pause at the base of your chest and not doing a chest bounce which I see so many vids being produced of this misuse of the technique! If you cannot hold the weight firm down at chest level, you are benching way too heavy! Even if you can do one with a pause at the bottom of at least one second, it would be an improvement! Generally, someone counts 1...2...3...4...push (or something like that) Need to develop that stop gap tolerance...My two cents! Lots of chest/lat presses should alleviate the urge to bounce! Bench reps with much lighter weight should reinforce the technique...Have the weight engaged on the lats at all times.

Cheers, KMC

huh

[308smk]

Also - Zahir's wife hit a massive 240.5kg.

"Wife"

Not much woman left there folks

[thom2355]

Yeah I read the notes on the sheet. 1g/lb bw protein is absurd for any athlete regardless of resistance training or strength level. The most I've ever seen academically backed up in sports nutr is 1.7g/kg bw and that was absolute top range (anything more might as well be any nutrient or something like that?). Admittedly it's been a while since the whole graduate school thing but unless I missed some revolutionary study in the past 3 years... whatever, different strokes I guess and Idgaf enough to look into it. That's the wife's job.

I seem to have read a lot that says the same as RP states. 1g/lb is pretty common. Now, I prefer to base it on 1g/lb of desired bodyweight (cutting or gaining), but that is personal preference based on results from previous eating.

[JoeyTS]

I am finally back in the gym after years away due to major health issues -- but I decided I have to be where I am happy and do what I enjoy.
Just hit a triple on squats of 315 (vid in the PR sticky). getting in on this thread so I can see what other people are up to and have somewhere to talk about lifts and be motivated since there are few people around me into it.
hope to get to know some of you and have fun following the thread

[adamsz]

I know Duffin successfully did a HUGE cut to 220. It'll be real interesting to see how he performs on a big stage, I think it's what everyone's been waiting for since he switched to raw lifting (he did a lot more national type meets when he lifted geared back in the day). He seemed to imply this will be the last time he cuts to 220.

[arn710]

I know Duffin successfully did a HUGE cut to 220. It'll be real interesting to see how he performs on a big stage, I think it's what everyone's been waiting for since he switched to raw lifting (he did a lot more national type meets when he lifted geared back in the day). He seemed to imply this will be the last time he cuts to 220.

He gets hated on a lot here but I'm pulling for him. I expect he'll hit something huge. I want to see that 10x BW goal he's been after

[kmc06005]

He gets hated on a lot here but I'm pulling for him. I expect he'll hit something huge. I want to see that 10x BW goal he's been after

If anybody is going to do it at 220, it'll be him. At least if it happens this decade.

As far as weight cuts go, I think it all comes out roughly flush in the end. I can tell you that cutting 20+ lbs of water is going to affect your performance 24 hr weigh in or not. IMO 8-15lbs is about all you want to do depending on your weight for peak performance.

[Jason2459]

I really hope this god damn argument doesn't leak into the fam thread

...L

Don't plan on it which is why Im leaving it as Im sharing something I put together based on the book and for further details anyone is welcome to read the book on the why's.

[thom2355]

He gets hated on a lot here but I'm pulling for him. I expect he'll hit something huge. I want to see that 10x BW goal he's been after

Same.

[adamsz]

He gets hated on a lot here but I'm pulling for him. I expect he'll hit something huge. I want to see that 10x BW goal he's been after

Seeing as I lift at his gym and he's an amazing person outside of the gym (no BS PLing drama, successful in all areas of life etc) I'm of course rooting for him. I do understand the critism he has received, but ya I'm hoping he can hit that 2200 and go down in history.

[kmc06005]

Seeing as I lift at his gym and he's an amazing person outside of the gym (no BS PLing drama, successful in all areas of life etc) I'm of course rooting for him. I do understand the critism he has received, but ya I'm hoping he can hit that 2200 and go down in history.

I respect the fact that he seems to respond to the criticism by fixing it going forward, not getting into a dick measuring competition via the internet. When he squatted borderline high at a meet, he came back and squatted to depth next time (with more weight IIRC).

[breathinglife]

I'm disappointed not to see Malan squat, but otherwise it should be awesome. Misha could realistically hit something ridiculous. I don't know if you've noticed, but every time I've ever seen him lift, all his 3rds look like 2nds.

And is no one eager to see Sarychev up the raw bench WR to 330 kgs / 727 lbs? Belyaev's competing full power should be sweet. Anyone know whether 198 or 220? I'm out of the loop because no internet at home and wife is sick.

Also, in b4 Zakhir breaks Lilliebridge's 275 squat WR!

[breathinglife]

Also, wow @ Kirill dwarfing everyone. You could put KK inside him and then Wayne inside KK, etc., like Russian dolls.

[dlt76028]

Seeing as I lift at his gym and he's an amazing person outside of the gym (no BS PLing drama, successful in all areas of life etc) I'm of course rooting for him. I do understand the critism he has received, but ya I'm hoping he can hit that 2200 and go down in history.

Didn't really think about him at all, but now thinks differently crew...

[arn710]

I can tell you that cutting 20+ lbs of water is going to affect your performance 24 hr weigh in or not. IMO 8-15lbs is about all you want to do depending on your weight for peak performance.

I have done it before. I went from high 250s to 231 for a strongman last year

Its not as bad as you would think especially if you're prone to water retention like a lot of powerlifters and strongmen. Truth be told, I think it might have helped me. I actually felt better after I loaded back up

[adamsz]

I respect the fact that he seems to respond to the criticism by fixing it going forward, not getting into a dick measuring competition via the internet. When he squatted borderline high at a meet, he came back and squatted to depth next time (with more weight IIRC).

Indeed. I thought his first record breaker (860) seemed pretty iffy on camera, however I wasn't there. But when he hit 881 it looked very damn convincing to me that it was in fact a good lift.

And yeah, I've never seen him respond to something negatively IRL or online regarding his lifting. And he puts out tons of information for FREE. That is especially rare in PLing nowadays it seems like with the advent of social media.

[arn710]

Kirill = Zangief

[arian11]

And he puts out tons of information for FREE. That is especially rare in PLing nowadays it seems like with the advent of social media.

Duffin. JTS, which includes Chad, Lilly, Blaine, etc. Mike Tuchscherer. Matt Gary. Greg Nuckols. Trying to think who else puts out free sh!t.