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    Any lighter guys around here?

    Anyone competing at the lower weight classes here? Let's say around 140-150lbs and under?

    Just curious as to your experiences if anyone does.
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    I have a few friends who are in the lower weight classes. They show up and give it their all just like everybody else.
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    Originally Posted by bigfor15 View Post
    I have a few friends who are in the lower weight classes. They show up and give it their all just like everybody else.
    Cheers for posting man.

    Did they just spend a lot of time training around the same bodyweight and getting stronger? A guy I train with reckons I could do decently well at my current weight (just under 130) but I'm not sure what I'd do if I hit a wall with only a small amount of weight to gain until I'd be there.
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    Originally Posted by Sponge19 View Post
    Cheers for posting man.

    Did they just spend a lot of time training around the same bodyweight and getting stronger? A guy I train with reckons I could do decently well at my current weight (just under 130) but I'm not sure what I'd do if I hit a wall with only a small amount of weight to gain until I'd be there.

    Not at all suggesting I'd be the next Richard Hawthorne, just seeing what other people do.
    You're 5'7? I'm still very weak but successful 5'7's typically are at least 148 and a lot are 165+. Below 130 is really tiny at that height. I'm 5'6 and 181 but have a ton of bodyfat. I'll be dropping to the 163 class next year. But if you really insist on maintaining your bodyweight yes you can keep getting stronger. When you hit a wall you're going to wanna gain weight but do it slowly. I did it so fast and ended up fat.

    The best 148's at MD States this year were around 5'6 and deadlifted over 520 lbs. But any 132's or below that Ive seen are shorter. Being 5'7 you have more of a frame to fill out than a shorter lifter to maximize your potential.
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    im 5"7 and competing as 148 in 5 days. Looking to hit 500kg total which is around 1100lbs. I'm 18 years old and lifting for only 1 year and i tend to train at 154-156lbs, then just drop few pounds before meet with water and sodium loading.
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    Originally Posted by musclehead09 View Post
    You're 5'7? I'm still very weak but successful 5'7's typically are at least 148 and a lot are 165+. Below 130 is really tiny at that height. I'm 5'6 and 181 but have a ton of bodyfat. I'll be dropping to the 163 class next year. But if you really insist on maintaining your bodyweight yes you can keep getting stronger. When you hit a wall you're going to wanna gain weight but do it slowly. I did it so fast and ended up fat.

    The best 148's at MD States this year were around 5'6 and deadlifted over 520 lbs. But any 132's or below that Ive seen are shorter. Being 5'7 you have more of a frame to fill out than a shorter lifter to maximize your potential.
    Yeah that's what I thought mate. Isn't Brett Gibbs like 5'5? And he's what, 181lb class?

    I think the guy was being generous, I don't intend to stay at this weight. Just wondering about people's experiences really, thanks for the advice
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    Originally Posted by Sponge19 View Post
    Cheers for posting man.

    Did they just spend a lot of time training around the same bodyweight and getting stronger? A guy I train with reckons I could do decently well at my current weight (just under 130) but I'm not sure what I'd do if I hit a wall with only a small amount of weight to gain until I'd be there.
    Originally Posted by musclehead09 View Post
    You're 5'7? I'm still very weak but successful 5'7's typically are at least 148 and a lot are 165+. Below 130 is really tiny at that height. I'm 5'6 and 181 but have a ton of bodyfat. I'll be dropping to the 163 class next year. But if you really insist on maintaining your bodyweight yes you can keep getting stronger. When you hit a wall you're going to wanna gain weight but do it slowly. I did it so fast and ended up fat.

    The best 148's at MD States this year were around 5'6 and deadlifted over 520 lbs. But any 132's or below that Ive seen are shorter. Being 5'7 you have more of a frame to fill out than a shorter lifter to maximize your potential.
    Musclehead summed it up pretty well. Most of the guys competing in the 132 class at a higher level carry the weight on a 5'5" or smaller frame. If you're just getting into it then plan to jump to 148 or 165 in due time. Regardless, you should compete just to gain the experience and refine your lifting before you make those jumps.
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    As a former 148er moving up to the IPF 74 kg, (163 lbs) I am looking forward to better and more competition. The lighter categories generally have very few participants.
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    With some stronger advanced guys in here I have a question for ya. I plan to simply maintain around 170 while gaining strength. Is it possible to body recomp in doing so? I'm still very weak totaling just 931 at 175 my last meet.

    Most say the lowest I should go is 163. Would it be possible to go all the way down to 148 while gaining strength since I'm only 5'6? I ate in binges to gain weight. I went from 135 to 150 then 155 to 165 and 165 to 185 all within a couple months so I have the highest bodyfat out of any 181 lol. I've gotten opinions from others. I just want some from you guys since I'm 26-28% bodyfat. I was around 30% at 185.

    Should I just clean up my diet? I eat too much fast food. Without even counting cals I could just lose weight from eating healthy foods and counting protein.

    Sorry for hijacking OP
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    Originally Posted by musclehead09 View Post
    With some stronger advanced guys in here I have a question for ya. I plan to simply maintain around 170 while gaining strength. Is it possible to body recomp in doing so? I'm still very weak totaling just 931 at 175 my last meet.

    Most say the lowest I should go is 163. Would it be possible to go all the way down to 148 while gaining strength since I'm only 5'6? I ate in binges to gain weight. I went from 135 to 150 then 155 to 165 and 165 to 185 all within a couple months so I have the highest bodyfat out of any 181 lol. I've gotten opinions from others. I just want some from you guys since I'm 26-28% bodyfat. I was around 30% at 185.

    Should I just clean up my diet? I eat too much fast food. Without even counting cals I could just lose weight from eating healthy foods and counting protein.

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    I guess I'm not the strong advanced guy you wanted but from experience I would not cut to 148.. I am doing that now but I am in High school and I'm still pretty small. Go down to the 163 but not the 148. And ya you should clean up your diet.. also add some cardio to the end of your workouts.. Nothing long maybe just 20 min or running. With a high BF% it shouldn't be too hard to lose 15lbs
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    Originally Posted by A7U9G View Post
    I guess I'm not the strong advanced guy you wanted but from experience I would not cut to 148.. I am doing that now but I am in High school and I'm still pretty small. Go down to the 163 but not the 148. And ya you should clean up your diet.. also add some cardio to the end of your workouts.. Nothing long maybe just 20 min or running. With a high BF% it shouldn't be too hard to lose 15lbs
    Problem is I was 23.5% at 163 lbs. I've ate like sh*t to pack on weight ever since I was sorta lean at 135. Cleaning up my diet though should help a lot in getting me down in bodyfat. I don't wanna be lean (under 12%) as I'd lose strength. But getting to 12-15% would feel nice.
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    Originally Posted by musclehead09 View Post
    Problem is I was 23.5% at 163 lbs. I've ate like sh*t to pack on weight ever since I was sorta lean at 135. Cleaning up my diet though should help a lot in getting me down in bodyfat. I don't wanna be lean (under 12%) as I'd lose strength. But getting to 12-15% would feel nice.
    Hmm.. I guess get to desired bf% but do it slowly (2lbs/wk)? Hopefully you have some more muscle so you will be a little heavier when lean
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    Originally Posted by A7U9G View Post
    Hmm.. I guess get to desired bf% but do it slowly (2lbs/wk)? Hopefully you have some more muscle so you will be a little heavier when lean
    Yeah I definitely have a lot more muscle. I have stretch marks on my chest, lats and arms as they've grown a few inches so that's a plus. I also have 27+ inch legs. Hopefully I'll be around 20% at 163 this time around from the muscle I've gained. I'd be satisfied at 20% and go between 160-170 for awhile so I can focus on gaining as much strength as possible.

    Thanks for the advice. Anyone else think dropping to 160 and going between that and 170 sounds good? 175-185 is too much for now.
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    Originally Posted by musclehead09 View Post
    With some stronger advanced guys in here I have a question for ya. I plan to simply maintain around 170 while gaining strength. Is it possible to body recomp in doing so? I'm still very weak totaling just 931 at 175 my last meet.

    Most say the lowest I should go is 163. Would it be possible to go all the way down to 148 while gaining strength since I'm only 5'6? I ate in binges to gain weight. I went from 135 to 150 then 155 to 165 and 165 to 185 all within a couple months so I have the highest bodyfat out of any 181 lol. I've gotten opinions from others. I just want some from you guys since I'm 26-28% bodyfat. I was around 30% at 185.

    Should I just clean up my diet? I eat too much fast food. Without even counting cals I could just lose weight from eating healthy foods and counting protein.

    Sorry for hijacking OP
    Yes you should clean up your diet. There is no need to be 20+ % bodyfat, but you shouldn't focus on cutting to get there. Eat to fuel your workouts and quit eating junk and you will begin to recomp anyway. Then reassess when you are around 15%. At 5'6" you have good leverages to fill out to a muscular lean 181. I would aim for that myself except for the fact that extra weight negatively affects rock climbing.
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    Originally Posted by ecchastang View Post
    Yes you should clean up your diet. There is no need to be 20+ % bodyfat, but you shouldn't focus on cutting to get there. Eat to fuel your workouts and quit eating junk and you will begin to recomp anyway. Then reassess when you are around 15%. At 5'6" you have good leverages to fill out to a muscular lean 181. I would aim for that myself except for the fact that extra weight negatively affects rock climbing.
    Yeah a solid 181 is my end goal. I feel my greatest potential would be at 181. All the 181's at my meets have been a lot taller actually but if I were solid in the long run id have an advantage. So if I just cut out the junk I'll naturally cut a good amount of fat. Once I'm satisfied I should probably go up to 181 again but slowly the next time.
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    Originally Posted by musclehead09 View Post
    With some stronger advanced guys in here I have a question for ya. I plan to simply maintain around 170 while gaining strength. Is it possible to body recomp in doing so? I'm still very weak totaling just 931 at 175 my last meet.

    Most say the lowest I should go is 163. Would it be possible to go all the way down to 148 while gaining strength since I'm only 5'6? I ate in binges to gain weight. I went from 135 to 150 then 155 to 165 and 165 to 185 all within a couple months so I have the highest bodyfat out of any 181 lol. I've gotten opinions from others. I just want some from you guys since I'm 26-28% bodyfat. I was around 30% at 185.

    Should I just clean up my diet? I eat too much fast food. Without even counting cals I could just lose weight from eating healthy foods and counting protein.

    Sorry for hijacking OP
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    Originally Posted by Kaarliitis View Post
    im 5"7 and competing as 148 in 5 days. Looking to hit 500kg total which is around 1100lbs. I'm 18 years old and lifting for only 1 year and i tend to train at 154-156lbs, then just drop few pounds before meet with water and sodium loading.
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    Originally Posted by Sponge19 View Post
    Anyone competing at the lower weight classes here? Let's say around 140-150lbs and under?

    Just curious as to your experiences if anyone does.
    At 5'7" you should be a 198er.

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    Am I gonna have to be the one to say it? Fine. No, there are no lighter 'guys' around here. Because as everyone knows any man under 200lbs is just an ugly woman.







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    I'm really not liking your post Rob. Not cuz of the content but more so that you beat me to it. Go do something would ya.
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    Originally Posted by runtocatch View Post
    At 5'7" you should be a 198er.



    I'm really not liking your post Rob. Not cuz of the content but more so that you beat me to it. Go do something would ya.
    Don't worry, I know it's pointless trying to stay as light as I am, got no intention to mate.

    Like I said, Brett Gibbs is pretty short and way heavier. Puts it in perspective.
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    This thread made me curious, and because I love #'s. Ran some equations from some algorithms generated based upon high end natty BB'ers with near maximum genetic potential met at different height, here is what I came up with. A low ish BF, certainly acceptable from both a PL and healthy standard (solid 15% BF), showing both the max lean mass and total mass (at 15% BF) you would see with people at various heights). Keep in mind this is MAX potential, once you're pushing/pulling elite #'s of course. It might be slightly less accurate at the more extreme heights, since so few people reach anything in the high 6 ft range.

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    Height MAX LEAN MASS Total mass
    5 0 141.8401405 166.8707535
    5 1 145.4008782 171.0598568
    5 2 148.9909233 175.2834392
    5 3 152.6100383 179.5412215
    5 4 156.2579917 183.8329314
    5 5 159.9345572 188.1583025
    5 6 163.6395138 192.5170751
    5 7 167.3726457 196.908995
    5 8 171.1337418 201.3338139
    5 9 174.9225957 205.7912891
    5 10 178.7390055 210.281183
    5 11 182.5827737 214.8032631
    6 0 186.4537068 219.3573022
    6 1 190.3516157 223.9430773
    6 2 194.2763148 228.5603704
    6 3 198.2276226 233.2089677
    6 4 202.205361 237.88866
    6 5 206.2093555 242.5992418
    6 6 210.2394352 247.340512
    6 7 214.2954323 252.1122733
    6 8 218.3771821 256.9143319
    6 9 222.4845233 261.746498
    6 10 226.6172973 266.6085851
    6 11 230.7753487 271.5004102

    Was educational for me to run these #'s. Means eventually I will probably have to be almost 220 lb. (I'm 6 0, not 5 10)

    This also proves runtocatch's thinking. In fact, he is only 1 lb off. Not bad. (For wanting to be 15%, at least.)
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    Originally Posted by Sponge19 View Post
    Don't worry, I know it's pointless trying to stay as light as I am, got no intention to mate.

    Like I said, Brett Gibbs is pretty short and way heavier. Puts it in perspective.
    Smart choice.
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    Originally Posted by cirion0000 View Post
    This thread made me curious, and because I love #'s. Ran some equations from some algorithms generated based upon high end natty BB'ers with near maximum genetic potential met at different height, here is what I came up with. A low ish BF, certainly acceptable from both a PL and healthy standard (solid 15% BF), showing both the max lean mass and total mass (at 15% BF) you would see with people at various heights). Keep in mind this is MAX potential, once you're pushing/pulling elite #'s of course. It might be slightly less accurate at the more extreme heights, since so few people reach anything in the high 6 ft range.

    (Sorry for crap formatting, excel tables don't post well apparently...)

    Height MAX LEAN MASS Total mass
    5 0 141.8401405 166.8707535
    5 1 145.4008782 171.0598568
    5 2 148.9909233 175.2834392
    5 3 152.6100383 179.5412215
    5 4 156.2579917 183.8329314
    5 5 159.9345572 188.1583025
    5 6 163.6395138 192.5170751
    5 7 167.3726457 196.908995
    5 8 171.1337418 201.3338139
    5 9 174.9225957 205.7912891
    5 10 178.7390055 210.281183
    5 11 182.5827737 214.8032631
    6 0 186.4537068 219.3573022
    6 1 190.3516157 223.9430773
    6 2 194.2763148 228.5603704
    6 3 198.2276226 233.2089677
    6 4 202.205361 237.88866
    6 5 206.2093555 242.5992418
    6 6 210.2394352 247.340512
    6 7 214.2954323 252.1122733
    6 8 218.3771821 256.9143319
    6 9 222.4845233 261.746498
    6 10 226.6172973 266.6085851
    6 11 230.7753487 271.5004102

    Was educational for me to run these #'s. Means eventually I will probably have to be almost 220 lb. (I'm 6 0, not 5 10)

    This also proves runtocatch's thinking. In fact, he is only 1 lb off. Not bad. (For wanting to be 15%, at least.)
    This is great for me. I'm 5'6. I binged up to a fat 188 so after a solid cut I should end up being able to get above 190 and not be as fat lol.
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    Originally Posted by TrettinR View Post
    Am I gonna have to be the one to say it? Fine. No, there are no lighter 'guys' around here. Because as everyone knows any man under 200lbs is just an ugly woman.





    Sorry, had to.
    Are you also 5'6? Man I'd love to be 250. I have a small frame but hopefully after several years I'll have become more dense and could get to that level.
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    most 5'6" guys are 198-220. im around 188 now. probbaly going down to 165 next year. honestly cant see how anyone could be that light without looking like they dont lift. if I get to 165 i'll probably be around 7-8% bf
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    Originally Posted by xRequiem View Post
    most 5'6" guys are 198-220. im around 188 now. probbaly going down to 165 next year. honestly cant see how anyone could be that light without looking like they dont lift. if I get to 165 i'll probably be around 7-8% bf
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