Considering buying a BCAA supplement.

[Chocminty]

Hello, i'm thinking about getting either a BCAA supplement or pure Leucine supplement, i heard Leucine is the most important Amino Acid for building muscle, what would you guys recommend?

[TheFugitive]

Are you currently using a protein powder?

[pu12en12g]

HIGH Protein intake + leucine worked VERY well for me in the past for bulking, recomp, and athletic performance / quality of life (High Frequency Training / High Volume)

[poison]

San bcaa pro reloaded has a 12:1:1 ratio of leucine to the other aminos, for 7.5gr leucine per serving. Our new pomegranate tastes awesome, too!

[pu12en12g]

San bcaa pro reloaded has a 12:1:1 ratio of leucine to the other aminos, for 7.5gr leucine per serving. Our new pomegranate tastes awesome, too!

^^^^

Sounds AMAZING !!!

[The Solution]

BCAA's would only benefit you for fasted AM Training dosed pre-workout or as a bolus between meals 4-6 hours apart

BCAA Products like: Alpha Amino, Core ABC, Cor BCAA, Scivation Xtend would be good choices

http://www.biolayne.com/wp-content/u...-Tech-2008.pdf
http://www.slideshare.net/biolayne/o...nd-muscle-mass

If you are looking for something intra-workout a EAA Product like Purple Wraath, Amino IV, Prime EAA's

WHY EAA's more important than BCAA intra-workout:
but EAAs may impart some endurance-like effects that BCAAs simply cannot.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/94/3/809.long

This is the only study done in trained humans consuming EAAs during the workout. These are legit, military-trained personnel doing both resistance and endurance work.

The findings?

"In summary, consumption of a 10-g dose of EAA enriched with leucine during moderate endurance-type exercise stimulated increased MPS when compared with an isonitrogenous EAA supplement with an amino acid profile consistent with high-quality proteins. These data indicate that increasing leucine availability during steady state exercise promotes skeletal muscle protein anabolism and spares endogenous protein."


Cliffs:

These EAAs increased postworkout MPS by 33% when consumed during exercise
The drink with the highest leucine content spared muscle to the greatest degree

[chrismac365]

BCAA's would only benefit you for fasted AM Training dosed pre-workout or as a bolus between meals 4-6 hours apart

BCAA Products like: Alpha Amino, Core ABC, Cor BCAA, Scivation Xtend would be good choices

Id throw my product (Best BCAA) onto that list too, in addition to the legit products mentioned by the above poster. There is always more then one solution to your problem.

[Marshall28]

I really enjoy amino build and the added betaine is a nice bonus. Flavoring is great too.

[co1e_train]

I would checkout our prodcut, Omega Sports "Strive". Each serving contains 5g of BCAA as well as 4g of Pepto Pro. Having the two combined creates a very potent intra workout drink or inbetween meal bolus of aminos.

Other great products would be:

Cor BCAA
Core ABC
Scivation Xtend.

[Hyruliangoat]

do xtend if you jus twant a strictly bcaa supp

[Mike McCandless]

To metabolize Leucine you need need half the amount of the other 2 amino's. That's why 30 years of data from scientist used a 2:1:1 ratio. Only when they became commercialized did supplement companies decide that other ratio's would be needed. To my knowledge, none of the companies using a variation from 2:1:1 has funded a study to show it being any more effective against the 30 years of data on 2:1:1

[jack5083]

For fasted cardio I use Endurance BCAA Plus. A 2:1:1 with the additions of BA and COP. Also contains Glutamine and Cit Malate. A little more pricey than some of the others though.

[TLTrooper]

I've always gone for Scivation Xtend. I've tried Purple Wraath too, but BCAAs and EAAs are two different things.

[cjwav34]

The benefit from taking a large amount of Leucine is to stimulate the mTOR pathway and Muscle Protein Synthesis (MPS). PES Amino IV contains enough Leucine and HICA (Leucine metabolite) to successfully stimulate mTOR and MPS. Amino IV would be an excellent option as it also contains an EAA blend, as well as other ergogens (Taurine, P5P, etc.).

[TPAYNTER]

BCAA's would only benefit you for fasted AM Training dosed pre-workout or as a bolus between meals 4-6 hours apart

BCAA Products like: Alpha Amino, Core ABC, Cor BCAA, Scivation Xtend would be good choices

http://www.biolayne.com/wp-content/u...-Tech-2008.pdf
http://www.slideshare.net/biolayne/o...nd-muscle-mass

If you are looking for something intra-workout a EAA Product like Purple Wraath, Amino IV, Prime EAA's

WHY EAA's more important than BCAA intra-workout:
but EAAs may impart some endurance-like effects that BCAAs simply cannot.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/94/3/809.long

This is the only study done in trained humans consuming EAAs during the workout. These are legit, military-trained personnel doing both resistance and endurance work.

The findings?

"In summary, consumption of a 10-g dose of EAA enriched with leucine during moderate endurance-type exercise stimulated increased MPS when compared with an isonitrogenous EAA supplement with an amino acid profile consistent with high-quality proteins. These data indicate that increasing leucine availability during steady state exercise promotes skeletal muscle protein anabolism and spares endogenous protein."


Cliffs:

These EAAs increased postworkout MPS by 33% when consumed during exercise
The drink with the highest leucine content spared muscle to the greatest degree

This^

[Chocminty]

Are you currently using a protein powder?

Yes but i'm looking to take it between shakes/meals.

HIGH Protein intake + leucine worked VERY well for me in the past for bulking, recomp, and athletic performance / quality of life (High Frequency Training / High Volume)

I diet and train like that aswell, cutting down on carbs to avoid putting on additional fat.

To metabolize Leucine you need need half the amount of the other 2 amino's. That's why 30 years of data from scientist used a 2:1:1 ratio. Only when they became commercialized did supplement companies decide that other ratio's would be needed. To my knowledge, none of the companies using a variation from 2:1:1 has funded a study to show it being any more effective against the 30 years of data on 2:1:1

Anyone that agrees with this? I guess it would make sense since atleast protein powder contains half the amount of the others in general, i'm not sure if that applies to food aswell.

[unccwrestler]

Xtend, Recover Pro, Alpha Amino, Purple Wrath, 360 cut and USP are all good ones IMO.

[iamjeffrey]

Anyone that agrees with this? I guess it would make sense since atleast protein powder contains half the amount of the others in general, i'm not sure if that applies to food aswell.

If there's one thing Mike is, it's brutally honest and accurate with his information.

[quank]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/at...ntrabolic.html

[poison]

To metabolize Leucine you need need half the amount of the other 2 amino's.

It's only a problem if your diet overall is deficient in the other two. There are studies on leucine alone.



http://examine.com/supplements/Leucine/#summary5-0

[ScivationLead]

Loving the Xtend love in here!

[TheFugitive]

Yes but i'm looking to take it between shakes/meals.



I diet and train like that aswell, cutting down on carbs to avoid putting on additional fat.



Anyone that agrees with this? I guess it would make sense since atleast protein powder contains half the amount of the others in general, i'm not sure if that applies to food aswell.

In between meals or training in a fasted state would be your best bet

[urg862]

If you need a BCAA then take a look at Atomic 7... You can find a 30 serving tub for just $16.99...and each scoop has 4g of Leucine

[aaronuconn]

BCAA wise, Xtend has and is still a premier choice. http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sv/xtend.html

Take a look at TheSolution's post, though. If EAA's are more suitable for you, Amino IV is a top choice.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ph.../amino-iv.html

[mdritter]

BCAA's are great.. Personally I think they're better for people on a cut.. Or fasted cardio... The ones I like are inner armour bcaa peak... It's loaded with leucine.. Also animal juiced aminos, bb.com amino recovery green apple is great as well

[ScivationLead]

BCAA wise, Xtend has and is still a premier choice. http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sv/xtend.html

Take a look at TheSolution's post, though. If EAA's are more suitable for you, Amino IV is a top choice.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ph.../amino-iv.html

Loving all the Xtend support in here

[CashmereEsquire]

Any thoughts on Aminocore and CORE ABC?

[Big.Jazayrli]

You couldn't go wrong with checking out the soon to be available ErgoChain