Time to get shredded again

[tonyl96]

you definitely answered this but how much cals are you taking in a day?? do you use a IIFYM approach ?

[Devils]

Good stuff dude. I added in bike sprints this month after reading your log and I'm loving them. Thanks!

Enjoy the pain bro.

Are pop tarts your staple.

I've had one a few years ago, tastes like ****. Pizza and hungry jacks is god.

i have friends from WA who train at your gym and say otherwise but ok

lol PM gym name. I occasionally go to powerfitness and that's full of juicers bigger and shredded than myself

I started my cut recently too. Probably going to compete again in June.

I've noticed something the last 2 times I cut and curious if it happens to you to. I was bulking on 4,000 calories as well. I think the last time I cut was even higher, something like 4300. Mathematically, I should have been able to drop calories to 3,400 or so, maybe 3,000 at absolute most to drop 1-2 pounds per week. However, my weight barely budged until I got to like 2800 calories with about 4 times the amount of cardio I was doing. I was only doing 1 day before so it's not exactly a lot, but it's the second time I've had to make pretty sharp changes in the beginning to even get things moving. I didn't care this time because I was sick of eating but still, I spend all this time reverse dieting to get my maintenance as high as it is, only to cut and not really notice any benefits of being able to keep calories higher.

Enjoyed your old log, Good luck in your cut. Yeah the body sucks like that, maybe try fluctuating more between days, say instead of 3400 every day, then 3300 then 3200, try 2800 one day, 3400 the next, 3200 the next, 2800 again if you're not active, and so on..

But yeah I know what you mean. All the matters is the end result though.

IN.

Very interested in this thread and the information herein.

Good luck!

Welcome m8

you definitely answered this but how much cals are you taking in a day?? do you use a IIFYM approach ?

Well I would need to count macro's to be able to fit them. I would say randomly swinging from 2500 to 3500

[tonyl96]

Well I would need to count macro's to be able to fit them. I would say randomly swinging from 2500 to 3500

I'm 5 foot 9.5 inches and 168 lbs at the moment, im on dat cut eating 2200 cal 170 protein 60 fats and carbs falls anywhere after I meet those. Does that seem right? I cut down from 182 lbs on these same macros but I feel like I'm stalling a bit, but still getting very slow minimal progress like 0.5-1lb a week off. I don't do cardio either

[MrBrutalsWorth]

I just gotta quick question devils if you could answer that be great man, anyway I weigh 218 5"10 been cutting about a month on 2300 cals protein is around 240-250 carbs around 220 n fats 60, is my fat intake to low?

[DarDardz]

Is carb cycling legit or is it just outdated science and is it really that good for cutting
Also do you carb cycle at all or do you just work on a deficiet and do cardio
What do you think about muscle loss on a cut. Personally I think it's quite overrated and you don't lose that much

[Devils]

I'm 5 foot 9.5 inches and 168 lbs at the moment, im on dat cut eating 2200 cal 170 protein 60 fats and carbs falls anywhere after I meet those. Does that seem right? I cut down from 182 lbs on these same macros but I feel like I'm stalling a bit, but still getting very slow minimal progress like 0.5-1lb a week off. I don't do cardio either

1lb a week is still good, I mean if that keeps up you would still slowly get shredded right. 2200 is about what I needed to lose weight at 168 lbs.

Do cardio! HIIT if you must or just be active outdoors for 30-60 minutes.

I just gotta quick question devils if you could answer that be great man, anyway I weigh 218 5"10 been cutting about a month on 2300 cals protein is around 240-250 carbs around 220 n fats 60, is my fat intake to low?

Low is relative, some day's I've been on 30-40g, others I've gone as high as 120 (when cutting). If you're on 60 everyday then there's no reason you cant have 80 grams one day and just cycle your carbs. Try upping your fats some days to keep the same calories, you can reduce protein and carbs to compensate.

Is carb cycling legit or is it just outdated science and is it really that good for cutting
Also do you carb cycle at all or do you just work on a deficiet and do cardio
What do you think about muscle loss on a cut. Personally I think it's quite overrated and you don't lose that much

You can do a deficit any way you like, it will depend on yourself how you handle low carb. But try not to lock yourself in to 24 hour clock. I mean you can have protein and veggies at night then eggs in the morning and have carbs again after training or lunchtime, that gives you at least 12 hours without carbs or more. Or you could have lots of carbs for lunch and dinner, then just protein/fats in the morning before you train and then consume carbs post training.

Going from 20% to 15% you wont lose much, 15% to 10% you will lose a little, 10-6% you will lose quite a bit. I like to think of it you're not losing all muscle, you just had more fat to lose than you thought.

[Devils]

New Progress, this is post training so pump pics. 86.4 kg this morning



My right shoulder isn't healing quick, I'm feeling it every time I do pressing or pulling, could be a rotator or bicep tendon. I can train but just lighter so It doesn't get aggravated. Going to have to give it time. **** like this happens every time I cut lol, doesn't want me keeping gains, damn gains monster

[CodyLee1337]

Looking great man. You left handed?

[Devils]

Looking great man. You left handed?

Right handed

[Ampedlift]

Right handed

makes sense thats why your left lats are a bit bigger n shiet


opposite happens to me and im left handed

Btw holy fk ur already so fukin aesthetic, mirin hard

how many years have u been lifting?

[Devils]

makes sense thats why your left lats are a bit bigger n shiet


opposite happens to me and im left handed

Btw holy fk ur already so fukin aesthetic, mirin hard

how many years have u been lifting?

my whole left side is smaller except for my arm. Pretty much due to shoulder impingement on the left side, kneed tendonitis, forearm trapped nerve, bulging disc effecting mainly the left. Probably all due to it being weaker and just snapping.

First time ever my right shoulder has given me trouble.

[Mxxz]

lol PM gym name. I occasionally go to powerfitness and that's full of juicers bigger and shredded than myself

powerfitness ellenbrook? i go there hnnng

[Socules]

Hi man. Wondering if you know anything about thyroid problems and cutting? (The one that makes your metabolism slower)

Can't cut at 2200 (without cardio). I'm currently trying 2k + cardio, but what would you do if that wouldn't work? Is 1500 to low or doesn't it matter since a 500 deficit is a 500 deficit no matter what kcal at?

[Critter5592]

damn youre a pro at flexing those lats

[thetrebel]

in to mire

[tekthepaprika]

Hi man. Wondering if you know anything about thyroid problems and cutting? (The one that makes your metabolism slower)

Can't cut at 2200 (without cardio). I'm currently trying 2k + cardio, but what would you do if that wouldn't work? Is 1500 to low or doesn't it matter since a 500 deficit is a 500 deficit no matter what kcal at?

have you been diagnosed? or are you just guessing? do you have other symptoms besides a seemingly slow metabolism?

[Socules]

have you been diagnosed? or are you just guessing? do you have other symptoms besides a seemingly slow metabolism?

Not diagnosed but I've considered it. Tired/excessive loss of hair are two others.

Even if I don't have it what would help me lose weight?

[thetrebel]

Not diagnosed but I've considered it. Tired/excessive loss of hair are two others.

Even if I don't have it what would help me lose weight?

those type of supps aren't allowed to be discussed here

Getting your thyroid checked isn't much

[OmgNewb]

new pics look amazing devils, as opposed to me lookin' like chit this morning lol

[Devils]

Hi man. Wondering if you know anything about thyroid problems and cutting? (The one that makes your metabolism slower)

Can't cut at 2200 (without cardio). I'm currently trying 2k + cardio, but what would you do if that wouldn't work? Is 1500 to low or doesn't it matter since a 500 deficit is a 500 deficit no matter what kcal at?

On my first comp cut I was dropping as low as 1600 some days, def under 2000 most days, Before I did refeeds. So yeah if you're shorter than me you may need lower cals or more cardio. There has to be SOME point where you will start to lose weight, you don't have some magical body everyone has their tipping point.

damn youre a pro at flexing those lats

in to mire

new pics look amazing devils, as opposed to me lookin' like chit this morning lol

cheers

[OmgNewb]

i incorporated your bike sprints, doing them 4 x / week atm gonna check the weigh in next week Tuesday hopefully things start moving a little bit faster but not too fast. Cutting is pretty boring srs

[Beerculez]

How helpful do you feel refeeds are? I've been cutting about 26 days now, I haven't had one yet. I'm considering maybe doing one this weekend. Also do you ever get stalls in your weightloss when your body is retaining more water or is it mostly linear for you? I've lost about 8lbs so far but now the scale has barely moved for the last 13 days or so. It's a bit of a mindfuk because i've been strict and I'm visibly leaner, I can tell my waist is shrinking as well, so I know I'm retaining some water.

[bambarby]

not sure if answer this already

What kind of weight loss supplements do you use/have used, if any? Thx brah

[Devils]

i incorporated your bike sprints, doing them 4 x / week atm gonna check the weigh in next week Tuesday hopefully things start moving a little bit faster but not too fast. Cutting is pretty boring srs

das it mane

I feel a very powerful burn when I do them, I've added 2 sessions a week, basically 14 mins of exercise and I'm already noticing changes.

How helpful do you feel refeeds are? I've been cutting about 26 days now, I haven't had one yet. I'm considering maybe doing one this weekend. Also do you ever get stalls in your weightloss when your body is retaining more water or is it mostly linear for you? I've lost about 8lbs so far but now the scale has barely moved for the last 13 days or so. It's a bit of a mindfuk because i've been strict and I'm visibly leaner, I can tell my waist is shrinking as well, so I know I'm retaining some water.

Refeed every 7-10 days IMO.

Here's my last 10 days

86.8kg 20-01-15
86.8kg 21-01-15
86.5kg 22-01-15
86.9kg 23-01-15
87.0kg 24-01-15
86.3kg 25-01-15
86.8kg 26-01-15
86.4kg 27-01-15
86.3kg 28-01-15
85.6kg 29-01-15

As you can see I didn't stall, but I did eat more on the 23rd the 26th and tonight of the 29th as I dropped low again. I'm enjoying a Cider with dinner and having extra's. If I wake up heavier tomorrow I will eat normally, If I'm still on target I may eat a little more until lunchtime.

If you're stalling you need to act quick and make things happen. Because It's pretty much wasted time.

not sure if answer this already

What kind of weight loss supplements do you use/have used, if any? Thx brah

Actual supplements? none I hate fat burners and OTC supplements because I never know what weird stuff they're putting in them. Caffine gives me enough of a buzz, I'll usually have a coffee in the morning for 3-4 days in a row then take a few days break then start again. I just like the taste anyway.

[GTO91]

Current pics are already looking sick!
I was wondering, what do you think about meal timing and what timings (with caloric value) do you prefer?
I read a lot of people are hyping IF, I tried it to for a while. It was blunting hunger somewhat, but I can't say I was feeling really good on it. I was more anxious and feeling down. Trying a more traditional approach now, with typical breakfast and most calories during the day, then a smaller dinner, feels good.

[Devils]

Current pics are already looking sick!
I was wondering, what do you think about meal timing and what timings (with caloric value) do you prefer?
I read a lot of people are hyping IF, I tried it to for a while. It was blunting hunger somewhat, but I can't say I was feeling really good on it. I was more anxious and feeling down. Trying a more traditional approach now, with typical breakfast and most calories during the day, then a smaller dinner, feels good.

I've found meal Timing to be unimportant. I mean on the days I would be going out for a big dinner/drinks I would eat breakfast and a small lunch and then eat big that night. Returning to normal in the morning, maybe lighter breakfast. I just adapt my eating to fit what I'm doing.

If you finish eating at 8pm and then wake up for breakfast at 7am, then that's pretty much 12 hours of fasting right there, I don't see how an extra 4 hours would make a difference and you gorging on food.

The deficit is what makes diets work, not the timing or the types of food. So something balanced you can easily follow and make that deficit is best. Some people find it easier with IF so good on em.

[Comstarr]

Out of every poster on this website I've honestly never seen someone get as lean as you, absolute inspiration to see and thank you tons for actually being active, answering questions, and keeping logs of it all. Will rep on r/c

no homer of course m8

[Devils]

Out of every poster on this website I've honestly never seen someone get as lean as you, absolute inspiration to see and thank you tons for actually being active, answering questions, and keeping logs of it all. Will rep on r/c

no homer of course m8

There are plenty leaner than me, I've had some luck in the pics I've taken over the years

[MrRipley]

do you start to go a bit flat after being in a calorie deficit after a while? been cutting 12 weeks with refeeds, but I can't seem to shake off the flat look except for the day after refeeds. Is it once you hit a certain bf % then it's basically inevitable, or is there any way around this?

Looking good brah, one can already see the added muscle really well.

[Devils]

do you start to go a bit flat after being in a calorie deficit after a while? been cutting 12 weeks with refeeds, but I can't seem to shake off the flat look except for the day after refeeds. Is it once you hit a certain bf % then it's basically inevitable, or is there any way around this?

Looking good brah, one can already see the added muscle really well.

Yes you'll be flat sometimes

, if it's fullness at low bodyfat you're looking for, well there's something for that.

That said if you get below 10% then you should look pretty good most of the time.