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    People need to realize what a natural physique looks like

    My god am i getting tired of hearing people say that u can just eat more calories and gain strength and u will gain muscle. LMFAO.

    WRONG.

    Building muscle as a natural is extremely hard. Anyone who looks big and lean is on steronz

    For a natural bodybuilder, u can either look very jacked, but u will have a high bodyfat percent, or u could look extremely lean, but u will have 0 size.

    If u see someone who is big and lean, than he is on steronz, trust me

    If u even have to question if someone is natural or not, 99.9 percent of the time they are not natural

    As for all the celebrities and everyone making insane gains in a short period of time. If u were getting paid 25 million dollars for a roll, would u take some clen or tren for a few months? lolololol. most celebrities who look good r on something. U can't travel non stop and eat crappy food and look good
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    I'm natural, and I'm big and strong as well as lean.... js
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    Originally Posted by strangeclouds View Post
    I'm natural, and I'm big and strong as well as lean.... js
    OP is the guy who was saying it's pointless to workout more then 2x a week.
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    Originally Posted by strangeclouds View Post
    I'm natural, and I'm big and strong as well as lean.... js
    U admitted in the other thread u were on steronz and just got off of them. Of course ur gonna still be strong and look big. Keep lifting for another 10 yrs without assistance or help and we will see how good or how strong ur lifts r................ js
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    How are you not banned yet? All of your posts are annoying as hell and you're more pretentious than I ever thought humanly possible
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    Originally Posted by BrandG View Post
    How are you not banned yet? All of your posts are annoying as hell and you're more pretentious than I ever thought humanly possible
    Im not banned, because all of my posts are 100 percent true. And even the mods have agreed with me as well. I have gotten 2 emails from mods saying what I am saying on the boards is 110 percent correct.

    5;7 158lbs, u are definitely not doing anything correctly lol. U need to refer to the stickies
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    Originally Posted by greenbrick333 View Post
    My god am i getting tired of hearing people say that u can just eat more calories and gain strength and u will gain muscle. LMFAO.

    WRONG.

    Building muscle as a natural is extremely hard. Anyone who looks big and lean is on steronz

    For a natural bodybuilder, u can either look very jacked, but u will have a high bodyfat percent, or u could look extremely lean, but u will have 0 size.

    If u see someone who is big and lean, than he is on steronz, trust me

    If u even have to question if someone is natural or not, 99.9 percent of the time they are not natural

    As for all the celebrities and everyone making insane gains in a short period of time. If u were getting paid 25 million dollars for a roll, would u take some clen or tren for a few months? lolololol. most celebrities who look good r on something. U can't travel non stop and eat crappy food and look good
    1.You can not spell, and need to stop trolling and demotivating all of these young and very influence-able people.
    2. It is absolutely possible to be jacked and lean, no you're not gonna be 225 pounds at 5'10 8% body fat naturally, but it is 100% attainable to be fairly large at 8-10% naturally.
    3. No one here is stupid enough to believe that Hugh Jackman (wolverine), the guy who played Thor, or the rock attained their physiques in such a short time naturally. Shut up downing people, let them train hard, eat right and see what they can attain, whether it be naturally or not.
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    Ur genetics must be rock bottom Op
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    Originally Posted by Thor56 View Post
    1.You can not spell, and need to stop trolling and demotivating all of these young and very influence-able people.
    2. It is absolutely possible to be jacked and lean, no you're not gonna be 225 pounds at 5'10 8% body fat naturally, but it is 100% attainable to be fairly large at 8-10% naturally.
    3. No one here is stupid enough to believe that Hugh Jackman (wolverine), the guy who played Thor, or the rock attained their physiques in such a short time naturally. Shut up downing people, let them train hard, eat right and see what they can attain, whether it be naturally or not.
    The thing is that all of these kids are getting absolutely demotivated because they do not know what natural is.

    If they think ur mr. wolverine is natural and when they train for 2 years and look nothing like them, well they are going to feel like absolutely garbage, and probably stop training.

    They need to know what natural is and what un natural is. And 99 percent of u have no idea how much u can actually weigh and what bodyfat percent u can be.

    90 percent of u are grossly under estimating ur bodyfat percent. 99 percent of people on here should add 4-5 percent to whatever bodyfat percent they think they are.

    5'10 225lbs at 8 percent bodyfat is absolutely impossible. U than says its attainable to be fairly large at 8-10 percent bodyfat???hmm well how much weight do u think u can be at 5'10 and at 8-10 percent bodyfat, I would love to hear what u think, cause u haven no idea.

    If frank zane is 5'10 180lbs 4 percent bodyfat running 4-5 different steronz well than if u think u can be 5'10 195-200lbs at 7-8 percent bodyfat ur an idiot
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    Originally Posted by greenbrick333 View Post
    Im not banned, because all of my posts are 100 percent true. And even the mods have agreed with me as well. I have gotten 2 emails from mods saying what I am saying on the boards is 110 percent correct.

    5;7 158lbs, u are definitely not doing anything correctly lol. U need to refer to the stickies
    No stats....no avi.....making fun of my stats.......oh no, you're hurting me so much, OP.

    So are you 100% correct or 110% correct? Because you're saying you're both so by my calculations:

    100% + 110% = 210%

    210% - 333 = -123

    -123 x 0 = 0

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    Yep, if my calculations are correct, you're still a *******
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    Originally Posted by Lolnubiwin View Post
    Ur genetics must be rock bottom Op
    My genetics are 5'9 195lbs currently at around 12%bodyfat. If I do it right I will be 5'9 185lbs at 7 percent bodyfat. Which is absolutely massive
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    Originally Posted by BrandG View Post
    No stats....no avi.....making fun of my stats.......oh no, you're hurting me so much, OP.

    So are you 100% correct or 110% correct? Because you're saying you're both so by my calculations:

    100% + 110% = 210%

    210% - 333 = -123

    -123 x 0 = 0

    0 x 669
    Yep, if my calculations are correct, you're still a *******
    Heres my physique. If u think I can get bigger than this naturally ur an idiot. 5'9 197lbs 12% bodyfat. lifting for 4 years naturally. this is my genetic limit. Arms are 18.5inches in this pic. Chest is 48-50inches. Around those numbers. Waist is 32inches, pretty lean for my size. Keep talking more sh it

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    Originally Posted by greenbrick333 View Post
    The thing is that all of these kids are getting absolutely demotivated because they do not know what natural is.

    If they think ur mr. wolverine is natural and when they train for 2 years and look nothing like them, well they are going to feel like absolutely garbage, and probably stop training.

    They need to know what natural is and what un natural is. And 99 percent of u have no idea how much u can actually weigh and what bodyfat percent u can be.

    90 percent of u are grossly under estimating ur bodyfat percent. 99 percent of people on here should add 4-5 percent to whatever bodyfat percent they think they are.

    5'10 225lbs at 8 percent bodyfat is absolutely impossible. U than says its attainable to be fairly large at 8-10 percent bodyfat???hmm well how much weight do u think u can be at 5'10 and at 8-10 percent bodyfat, I would love to hear what u think, cause u haven no idea.

    If frank zane is 5'10 180lbs 4 percent bodyfat running 4-5 different steronz well than if u think u can be 5'10 195-200lbs at 7-8 percent bodyfat ur an idiot
    5'10 8-10body fat percentage could easily be 180pounds naturally, i am 5'11 202 atm and at 7-8% bodyfat I would be around 175-180 and i still have a very long way to go. And i hate to break it to you but anyone that works out for a few years hard with a correct diet, i dont give a **** who you think you should look like from hollywood, you are going to be hella impressed with your physique and only want to keep getting bigger and stronger. And also you are an idiot, flex lewis is 5'5 and came into the olympia around 3-5%bodyweight weighing nearly 210pounds, so how in the hell are you going to tell me 5'10 220 is impossible?
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    Originally Posted by greenbrick333 View Post
    My genetics are 5'9 195lbs currently at around 12%bodyfat. If I do it right I will be 5'9 185lbs at 7 percent bodyfat. Which is absolutely massive
    U clearly dont know anything about genetics..
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    Originally Posted by greenbrick333 View Post
    Heres my physique. If u think I can get bigger than this naturally ur an idiot. 5'9 197lbs 12% bodyfat. lifting for 4 years naturally. this is my genetic limit. Arms are 18.5inches in this pic. Chest is 48-50inches. Around those numbers. Waist is 32inches, pretty lean for my size. Keep talking more sh it

    first this looks like a 40year old mans bottom half of face and skin, secondly you can keep getting bigger, third you are more than 12% bodyfat
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    Originally Posted by greenbrick333 View Post
    Heres my physique. If u think I can get bigger than this naturally ur an idiot. 5'9 197lbs 12% bodyfat. lifting for 4 years naturally. this is my genetic limit. Arms are 18.5inches in this pic. Chest is 48-50inches. Around those numbers. Waist is 32inches, pretty lean for my size. Keep talking more sh it

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    I'm bored and have nothing to do before bed so I'll entertain you. Lmao at you saying miscers are over estimating their leanness and you go and try to say you're 12% hahahahaha. You're like 15% brah. If you wanna give up on working hard, go ahead but you have a LOT of areas you could very easily improve on. But what do I know? I've only been doing this for 3 years




























































































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    Originally Posted by Thor56 View Post
    first this looks like a 40year old mans bottom half of face and skin, secondly you can keep getting bigger, third you are more than 12% bodyfat
    40 year old bottom half? what? Ya cause my physique looks that developed? I know I get that a lot that my physique is extremely developed it looks like a 25 yr old mans. Ya im jacked I know it.

    And well it could be the lighting that isn't that good, because according to a dexa scan, a scan that measure bodyfat percent by using radiation. I am at exactly 12.2 percent bodyfat, so I rounded down to 12 percent. So 12.2 percent bodyfat to impress u

    And according to doctors that I talked to who gave the scan, I am over my natural limit by about 5lbs. They said I should not be this big. They said I will have an extremely hard time gaining any more size, and that I can't gain any more size naturally. And according to lyle McDonald and alan argaon, I have reached my natural limit. They say 180lbs at 6 percent at 5'9 is natural limit

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    I'm bored and have nothing to do before bed so I'll entertain you. Lmao at you saying miscers are over estimating their leanness and you go and try to say you're 12% hahahahaha. You're like 15% brah. If you wanna give up on working hard, go ahead but you have a LOT of areas you could very easily improve on. But what do I know? I've only been doing this for 3 years




























































































    he claims to be 12% but cant even see any abs lmao, but eh is so genetically maxed huh? lol ;p nice progress though btw man!
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    Originally Posted by BrandG View Post
    I'm bored and have nothing to do before bed so I'll entertain you. Lmao at you saying miscers are over estimating their leanness and you go and try to say you're 12% hahahahaha. You're like 15% brah. If you wanna give up on working hard, go ahead but you have a LOT of areas you could very easily improve on. But what do I know? I've only been doing this for 3 years




























































































    U look horrible. U took a pic literally right in front of the camera, anyone can do that and it will appear bigger. Doesn't change ur stats ur 158lbs soaking wet. ur small
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    Red Brick, you are greater than 12% bodyfat. Stop kidding yourself that you'll be 185 lb at 7% bodyfat. Most reds know some of that weight will be water, so you'll be well below that.
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    Originally Posted by XCRunner9 View Post
    Red Brick, you are greater than 12% bodyfat. Stop kidding yourself that you'll be 185 lb at 7% bodyfat. Most reds know some of that weight will be water, so you'll be well below that.
    Forgot this is 12% bodyfat lmfao. U jelly ur 5'10 140lbs. All take my red over ur green any day. And all also take my physique any day over yours. U talk sh it but in real life, I guarantee if I walked by u, u would look away or walk with ur head down.

    heres a little bit better lighting. Yup lol im still 12% not. Around 10% in this pic and still 195lbs. I guess im just so jacked its unreal
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    Originally Posted by greenbrick333 View Post
    U look horrible. U took a pic literally right in front of the camera, anyone can do that and it will appear bigger. Doesn't change ur stats ur 158lbs soaking wet. ur small
    I know i know....just thank God it adds vascularity and muscle separations too otherwise I'd look goofy as hell using my fancy camera tricks
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    Op, what would the natural limit be for someone of my size
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    OP I think I saw that picture in somebody else's bodyspace
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    OP I think I saw that picture in somebody else's bodyspace
    That would be Whitekoala you're thinking of.

    We just can't decide if red brick here is a troll or second account
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    Originally Posted by Lolnubiwin View Post
    Op, what would the natural limit be for someone of my size
    well considering the hodgetwins are 6'2 200lbs lean. I would say at 6'2 u could look just like them at around 200lbs. I forgot though, that isn't a lot of weight and that if we eat our cherrios and if we take a multi vitamin and train hard and eat, we can be 6'2 240lbs lean at 6 percent bodyfat lol
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