I just read that at age 19 Vic Martinez was benching 315 x 10 for sets at age 19 at below a bodyweight of 200 lbs. Is it me or is this just ridiculous. I've been training hard for 2.5 years and can get maybe 245 x 10 if I'm fresh and I'm 21 years old and weigh about 190. Is this kind of feat somewhat common in the States or is this guy just a freak?
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02-27-2007, 07:51 PM #1Registered User
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Victor Martinez pressing 315 x 10 at 19?
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02-27-2007, 07:59 PM #2feelin like im lookin ;)
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absolutely, all americans are hossesOriginally Posted by ray mercer
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02-27-2007, 08:05 PM #3
Not really common but not unbeliveable
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02-27-2007, 08:07 PM #4$GO HARD$
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he prob had 4-5 yrs in by then, thats actually pretty common....at least around here.
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02-27-2007, 08:14 PM #5dunn dunn
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derek jeter could turn on a 90 mph fastball at age 16,, victor martinez could bench 315 at age 19.. guess theres a reason why they both turned professional in their sports
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02-27-2007, 08:19 PM #6Registered User
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Well put. Although it's an incredible feat, it's certainly not unheard of. Some power lifters starting at 12-13 have done the same thing. Again, which is why they are pros at what they do.Originally Posted by bxbombers
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02-27-2007, 09:56 PM #7Registered User
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well I on the other hand think that is nothing special. When you factor in that he has probably been training for 3-4 years before and a bit of juice to help him out. I really don't see that 315 for 10reps is anything spectacular.
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02-28-2007, 03:52 AM #8Registered User
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Originally Posted by ray mercer
this could just be another veiled thread where the OP is just trying to brag about what he already lifts.....
Ray: you are awash in RED...for all we know, YOUR numbers are just e-stats....
but VICTOR! on the other hand, VICTOR we have seen with our own eyes and when you do, you realize that he is indeed an unusual human being and nothing you read about him should surprise you......
do yourself a favor and meet him in person up close.....he is BEYOND big! There will be no doubt in your mind about his capabilities now or ever before once you see him in front of you....
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02-28-2007, 04:57 AM #9Ghost Negger
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Who gives a ****. Worry about your own damn training. Most of the pros are bigger/stronger than the average person. Big guys with strong meso qualities. So of course they are going to much stronger than you at a younger age. Everyone knows some naturally big kid growing up that never did **** with his size. The pros are just guys that actually did.Originally Posted by ray mercer
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02-28-2007, 07:17 AM #10TB51
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that lift seems pretty reasonable. especially since he is after all, Victor Martinez. I'm 20 and about 6 months ago in a chest routine i went 135x15, 135x15, 225x 10, 315x10, 365 x 6, 405x3..i know the 405x 3 isnt doing much in terms of growing..i just wanted to see what i could do..not saying im super human i just think it sounds reasonable to me.
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02-28-2007, 09:26 AM #11Registered User
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Originally Posted by ray mercer
not ridiculous at all...i've seen many 19-21 yo press 315 for 10-12. i did 12 at 21yo @ 205lbs....the prop helped a bit tough. :-)'focus is the key'
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02-28-2007, 10:05 AM #12Registered User
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Originally Posted by ray mercer
not ridiculous at all...i've seen many 19-21 yo press 315 for 10-12. i did 12 at 21yo @ 205lbs....the prop helped a bit tough. :-)'focus is the key'
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02-28-2007, 11:06 AM #13I want to play a game...
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Hell yeah....a Yankee reference. Luv's it.Originally Posted by bxbombers
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02-28-2007, 11:09 AM #14Ghost Negger
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Exactly. I swear some people don't use their brains when it comes to weightlifting "stats". Eric dickerson could run a 10.1 in the 100 at age 19. Does that mean we all should have similar speed at the same age?Originally Posted by bxbombers
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02-28-2007, 11:09 AM #15I read Cutler was benching 315 for reps at 16.Originally Posted by ray mercer
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02-28-2007, 11:21 AM #16Banned
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Probably something stupid MuscleTech put out there. I can see it now in writingOriginally Posted by RickRoss
"At the tender age of 16, Jay stepped into a gym with a few of the locals from round his area. Little did he know he was bursting with power, and managed an unbelievable 8 reps on 315 llbs bench press. Jay knew right there and then what his destiny was - to become a bodybuilder. He returned to the gym a week later, fueled up with the latest discovery in the bodybuilding world - Cell-Tech. With this in his arsenal, he was leapfrogging unbelievable amounts of weight, and insantly hit another 8 reps, but this time with 400 LLBS!!!"
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02-28-2007, 04:34 PM #17Homo Homini Lupus
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I know an 18-year-old who benches 315 for 12 or something at a bodyweight of 235. 100% drug free, just naturally strong as a bloody ox.
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02-28-2007, 04:54 PM #18I Am Teh Lolrus
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he said it in an interview(non-Muscle Tech related) actually.Originally Posted by Ajklpool
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02-28-2007, 05:05 PM #19Team Link
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I know a 16 year old who can bench 300x5-6 and I am almost certain he is drug free also. He has been lifting since he was 11. But who knows its hard to be 5'9 225 at age 16. But he certainly doesn't have anything close to a 6pack but does have some what of a flat stomach.
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02-28-2007, 11:42 PM #2015 in my pics
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Originally Posted by RickRoss
No, Cutler pressed 315 for a single at 19.
Cutler isn't very strong.
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03-01-2007, 12:42 AM #21has a wealth of knowledge
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Your right, a 700lbs squat is dogg ****Originally Posted by wanabeebig
When will people stop saying cutler is weak just because he doesnt show off for the camera when filming a DVD??
EDIT:- In an interview a few years back, Cutler stated how he pressed 315 the first time he hit the gym.....probably for a single, but he certainly wasnt 19 at the time.
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03-01-2007, 01:31 AM #2215 in my pics
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Originally Posted by BB is 4 life :)
Your right, a 700lbs squat is dogg ****
When will people stop saying cutler is weak just because he doesnt show off for the camera when filming a DVD??
EDIT:- In an interview a few years back, Cutler stated how he pressed 315 the first time he hit the gym.....probably for a single, but he certainly wasnt 19 at the time.
I new someone was going to say somthing.
He uses less weight then Ronnie and many others.
Where's this interview.?
Never said he was weak by anymeans, said he wasn't very strong.
You must be a huge Cutler fan, lolLast edited by wanabeebig; 03-01-2007 at 01:35 AM.
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03-01-2007, 06:52 AM #23has a wealth of knowledge
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Originally Posted by wanabeebig
No **** genius, everyone except Johnnie jackson uses less weight than Coleman.....and who are the many others?
The interviews ina magazine somewhere....sorry im not an internet troll and am not willing to spend hours trying to find a link to it IF its on the internet.
By saying someone isnt very strong, your basically calling them weak. And there stands my point, you call him not very strong yet he can squat 700lbs, underhand row with 405lbs and bench 5 plates. If thats 'not very strong' then just what the hell is strong.....and everyone on this site must be incredibly weak by your standards.
No little boy im not a huge cutler fan, im a fan and wanted to make the point that what you said was stupid and that alot of people say it.
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03-01-2007, 08:54 AM #24Banned
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so so true.Originally Posted by DiamondDelts
A friend of mine's younger brother is 13, he's already 6'1 and a lean 190 lbs, he's a natural athlete, he's already boxing and playing rugby, he has the ability to go far in whatever sport he wants to do, I'm trying to encourage him to eat healthier and do some weight but he won't listen, yet.
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03-01-2007, 12:05 PM #25Registered User
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I don't see that weight as being that unrealistic, granted it's still great number for any 19 year old, but still possible, I just turned 20 and I do 3 sets of 10-12 with 225 and I'm only 175 lbs.so yeah it's possible considering he was probably working out a lot longer than I have at this point, he was 15 lbs. bigger than me at that point, has superior genetics, and was probably on some special supplementation. so yeah it's possible.
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another trainer at my gym is 27 yrs old, not that age means a whole lot
and Ive spotted him numerous times..
He reps 315 x 6-8 @ a bodyweight of 190lbs 5'10" 7% bF
He is real strong, but it def. is possible, ive seen it numerous times with others as well
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03-01-2007, 04:02 PM #27Registered User
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That aint to hard I can get 315 for sets of 8-10 @ 205lbs and im only 16 but Ive been lifting since I was 8 or so
**** jus trying to make my dream a reality
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03-01-2007, 04:22 PM #28No, I'm just telling you what I read in FLEX. His buddy said Cutler could bench 315 at 16 and all the guys in the gym were looking at him like "who is this kid". I'm not a cutler fanatic and I'm not even saying I believe he did that at 16, I'm only posting what was said in FLEX.Originally Posted by wanabeebig
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03-01-2007, 04:39 PM #29The Gun Show
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Very believable, there were a few kids in my high shcool that could do even more then that any they are anything but pros.Originally Posted by ray mercer
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03-01-2007, 04:44 PM #30dunn dunn
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you cant compare one pros weight stats to another,, jay uses much less weight then ronnie for most of the year -thats a fact.. ive seen all of the pros vids a hundred times,, i think jay does a better job of isolating and contracting a muscle better then most pros do -which makes the weights go down.. plus jay trains with more volume and has never sufferd an injury.
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