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    EC not working.....

    Hi,

    3x 8mg Kaizen EPH with 200mg Caffeine twice a day supported by low intensity cardio in V02 max determined fat burn zone and weights. Diet is calorie and carb restricted. Been on for three weeks without loss of BF% according to my Tanita body fat scales ( expensive kit btw not home grade). Any ideas?

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    Take it on an empty stomach far away from food. Read the posts by "neuron" and "PinchtheBear" here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=142018441
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    Missing a 3rd dose....not saying that will help, but its part of the protocol.. also read up on an archived version of drumlib's ec/caff tutorial
    *****://web.archive.org/web/20110408123118/http://www.drumlib.com/dp/000006.htm

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    3x 24mg + 200mg caffeine + calorie deficit = needs to work
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    Originally Posted by uksnowglobe View Post
    Hi,

    3x 8mg Kaizen EPH with 200mg Caffeine twice a day supported by low intensity cardio in V02 max determined fat burn zone and weights. Diet is calorie and carb restricted. Been on for three weeks without loss of BF% according to my Tanita body fat scales ( expensive kit btw not home grade). Any ideas?

    Cheers,
    Its all about counting those macros, and repace 15-20 minutes of that low intensity with high intensity 3 times a week.

    Low intensity, doesn't do much for body recomposition, unless you're probably above 15%
    Alpha yohimbine + Alphamine or Caffeine might be a better alternative to EC when doing cardio.
    Just make sure you take it on an empty stomach, 3 hours after your last meal is probably good.
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    It works. If it's not working it's because of your diet.


    Don't do high intensity cardio on EC though.
    Supplement a good diet: don't diet on supplements.

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    Originally Posted by mtpaquette View Post
    It works. If it's not working it's because of your diet.


    Don't do high intensity cardio on EC though.
    Or yohimbine and its derivatives, for that matter.
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    Originally Posted by uksnowglobe View Post
    Hi,

    3x 8mg Kaizen EPH with 200mg Caffeine twice a day supported by low intensity cardio in V02 max determined fat burn zone and weights. Diet is calorie and carb restricted. Been on for three weeks without loss of BF% according to my Tanita body fat scales ( expensive kit btw not home grade). Any ideas?

    Cheers,
    Has kaizen ever tested positive for ephedrine? Not trolling, just curious.
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    Originally Posted by mtpaquette View Post
    It works. If it's not working it's because of your diet.


    Don't do high intensity cardio on EC though.
    Why can't you do high intensity cardio?
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