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    Cool Don't Worry Guys! Voter Fraud IS NOT A PROBLEM!

    With the election just under two weeks away, evidence of rampant Democrat voter fraud is already pouring in. First, it was surveillance cameras catching a liberal activist apparently stuffing hundreds of ballots at a polling place in Arizona (as I noted on Tuesday). According to Maricopa County Republican Party Chairman A.J. LaFaro, a liberal activist wearing a "Citizens for a Better Arizona" T-shirt walked in while poll workers were on an extended lunch and started shoving piles of ballots into the ballot box.
    Voters wait in line to cast their ballot at Hug High School on November 6, 2012 in Reno, Nevada.
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    Then, it was Illinois state representative candidate Jim Moynihan voting early for himself and other Republicans only to notice vote-after-vote being switched to Democratic candidates by the machine. According to the web site Illinois Watchdog, Cook County Board of Elections representative Jim Scalzitti insists that every vote being switched to a Democratic candidate is a "calibration error."

    And now, it is Obama's amnestied illegal immigrants registering to vote. According to the Winston-Salem Journal of North Carolina, State Board of Elections (SBOE) officials recently uncovered 145 names on their voter rolls that belonged to illegal immigrants who were recently granted "Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals" (DACA) status by Obama. These would be people who have no legal right whatsoever to vote in our elections, but who are now registered to vote.

    Earlier this month, those same officials sampled 1,600 names from their overall list of 10,000 voters who were identified as "legally present" by the DMV (i.e., non-citizens who may or may not have become citizens and obtained voting rights since getting drivers' licenses). They cross-checked the names against a U.S. Department of Homeland Security database, known as SAVE, and found that 6% of the 1,600 registered voters they sampled are not eligible to vote.

    As Breitbart News notes, if this ratio holds true for the entire list of 10,000 registered voters, then roughly 600 voters from that list will turn out to be illegal immigrants who have no right to vote. What's more is that these fraudulent voters could very well end up swaying the outcome of many incredibly close elections this year...like North Carolina's dead-heat Senate race.

    Of course, these elections are only being kept so close in the first place by ultra-wealthy leftist billionaires (the left's actual base) rushing in to prop up wildly unpopular Democratic candidates who are facing complete and utter electoral annihilation this year, according to all the recent polling.
    dont worry you silly conspiracy nuts, it isn't a widespread issue


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    I agree.

    How can voting fraud be a problem if you don't even vote for your president anyway?
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    We already had a thread about the AZ ballot stuffing.

    It likely was not voter fraud.
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    Originally Posted by Sakeoe View Post
    I agree.

    How can voting fraud be a problem if you don't even vote for your president anyway?
    actually here in America presidents can only serve 2 terms of 4 years, max, so for this next election Obama wouldnt be able to run again for office. this is for midterms btw.
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    I agree. People should have to show ID before sneaking/breaking into polling places and stuff ballots.
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    So stuffing ballots isn't fraud? Strong logic
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    wtf is calibration error? screen calibration? That's bogus.
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    Originally Posted by Apeus View Post
    People should have to show ID before sneaking/breaking into polling places and stuff ballots.
    ^this!!!!
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    Originally Posted by jbball92 View Post
    So stuffing ballots isn't fraud? Strong logic
    I'm not sure how polling booths do their business but it would make sense that the hundreds of ballots are from a polling booth where he was working. I could be wrong.

    Then again, can these polling booth workers be trusted? Seems like a security issue. The ballots were sealed, fine, but do they know who is registered to vote? Do they know who didn't show up but was registered? Could they possibly submit a fraudulent ballot on behalf of someone who decided to not vote?
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    Originally Posted by trailwarrior View Post
    ^this!!!!
    Cool so how do you feel about the other 3 examples of widespread voter fraud in the OP?
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    Originally Posted by jbball92 View Post
    Cool so how do you feel about the other 3 examples of widespread voter fraud in the OP?
    Well if the first one was actually just made up its likely the others were as well. Maybe I'm wrong, but when you start an argument with outright BS it's hard to take the rest of the argument seriously.

    It should be noted that requiring ID to vote wouldn't have stopped any of those examples even if they were true.
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    Originally Posted by 7rmr View Post
    Well if the first one was actually just made up its likely the others were as well. Maybe I'm wrong, but when you start an argument with outright BS it's hard to take the rest of the argument seriously.

    It should be noted that requiring ID to vote wouldn't have stopped any of those examples even if they were true.
    Stuffing a voting ballot box is bs? Interesting. Where have I mentioned anything about IDs?
    This has to do with the idea put forth by liberals that "voter fraud isn't a widespread issue".
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    Originally Posted by jbball92 View Post
    Stuffing a voting ballot box is bs? Interesting. Where have I mentioned anything about IDs?
    This has to do with the idea put forth by liberals that "voter fraud isn't a widespread issue".
    The video looks like it's common practice and wasn't "stuffing ballots".

    I don't know enough about it but the guy comes in with a box in the middle of the day. Stops to check his ipad, smiles and talks to people, leaves then comes back.

    It looks more like he works for a election non profit and was delivering the ballots.

    Found some sources, he was delivering absentee ballots. You have to be gullible to think he was ballot stuffing.

    http://www.dailydot.com/politics/rac...d-video-viral/

    Parraz says the CBA at times delivers over a thousand ballots at a time, making the 100 or so being delivered here look like a pittance.

    “Until the law is changed, we will continue to do it,” Parraz told the Daily Dot. “Especially for Latinos who believe their vote doesn’t count.”
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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    The video looks like it's common practice and wasn't "stuffing ballots".

    I don't know enough about it but the guy comes in with a box in the middle of the day. Stops to check his ipad, smiles and talks to people, leaves then comes back.

    It looks more like he works for a election non profit and was delivering the ballots.

    Found some sources, he was delivering absentee ballots. You have to be stupid to think he was ballot stuffing.

    http://www.dailydot.com/politics/rac...d-video-viral/
    So it's just a. Coincedence that he was a political actuvist, and that absentee ballots are the easiest way to commit voter fraud. How do you feel about the other 3 examples
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    Originally Posted by jbball92 View Post
    So it's just a. Coincedence that he was a political actuvist, and that absentee ballots are the easiest way to commit voter fraud. How do you feel about the other 3 examples
    It sounds like voter id would not fix any of that.

    If the others are true (which they probably are not) that would be more like corruption. I want a corruption free electoral process as well.

    Never fear, the ultra right will put out more scare bs soon.
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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    It sounds like voter id would not fix any of that.

    If the others are true (which they probably are not) that would be more like corruption. I want a corruption free electoral process as well.

    Never fear, the ultra right will put out more scare bs soon.
    I never said anything about voter IDs. This is about the idea perpetuated that voter fraud isn't an issue.

    You really think the NC state board of elections falsified their data? Is it a coincedence that in Cook county of all places votes were being changed due to a "calibration error"?
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    Originally Posted by jbball92 View Post
    I never said anything about voter IDs. This is about the idea perpetuated that voter fraud isn't an issue.

    You really think the NC state board of elections falsified their data? Is it a coincedence that in Cook county of all places votes were being changed due to a "calibration error"?
    I'm saying I haven't looked into them, and usually when people bring this up (right or left) it's an isolated incident or completely bs.

    If they are true:
    There would be a flaw in the registration process if illegal aliens were allowed to be registered (handled at the local level) or there would be corruption in allowing them to vote. This is a problem for the local election board and they need to fix it.

    If the machine turns automatically to Democrat, I would assume that is also corruption and obviously not a glitch. I could design a machine in an hour that could tally votes; but we've had this problem over and over again. The machines miscounted Bush's votes and blah blah blah, they have always had problems and they come up every election. It's BS and the companies are incompetent that produce them or there is fraud going on.
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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    I'm saying I haven't looked into them, and usually when people bring this up (right or left) it's an isolated incident or completely bs.

    If they are true:
    There would be a flaw in the registration process if illegal aliens were allowed to be registered (handled at the local level) or there would be corruption in allowing them to vote. This is a problem for the local election board and they need to fix it.

    If the machine turns automatically to Democrat, I would assume that is also corruption and obviously not a glitch. I could design a machine in an hour that could tally votes; but we've had this problem over and over again. The machines miscounted Bush's votes and blah blah blah, they have always had problems and they come up every election. It's BS and the companies are incompetent that produce them or there is fraud going on.
    so we can both agree then that there is duplicitous behavior occurring, with regards to elections, that should not be taken place? fair?
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    Originally Posted by jbball92 View Post
    dont worry you silly conspiracy nuts, it isn't a widespread issue


    http://www.examiner.com/article/stuf...igrants-voting
    I'm more concerned with political fraud. You know, taking lobbyist money to lie on camera for a few months and then tell everyone they can suck your balls after getting elected.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    I'm more concerned with political fraud. You know, taking lobbyist money to lie on camera for a few months and then tell everyone they can suck your balls after getting elected.
    they should be held more accountable for their actions. if i performed that way, i'd be out of a job.
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