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    Phil is nothing compared to Jay's prime...

    I hope somebody make a comparison pic of Jay when he was at his very best circa 2001 and 2003 ironman...add 2009 as well and his first mr olympia in 2006



    dat width

    dat conditioning

    dat muscularity

    dat quads sweep

    dat shoulder size

    Mr Olympia 2014 who?

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    strong same background though hahaha
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    just trying to spark a debate hahaha
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    @ 2:06 on the Jay video. Dat quad stomp is so unreal.
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    Big Jay fan here. Love his physique and the freaky mass in his prime showings. That being said, I think Jay has an edge over Phil really only in the size dept. Phil has for me, a more eye pleasing, conditioned and aesthetic physique overall. Just my 2 cents.

    It's really 2 different types of epic physiques and I think saying one is better than the other is kind of a never ending debate. I'm a big fan of both, but they're very different looks.
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    Jay in size but Phil on eye pleasing look and hands are not even comparable
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    I'd rather look like Phil, but Jay would win on stage.
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    Not only size, but width as well. Condition may be close, but Jay is better condition from the front. I dont want to look like anybody else, but i will go with Jay if thats the case, esp 2001 Jay looks.
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    Early noughties Jay looked phenomenal!





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    Originally Posted by BreitRon View Post
    I hope somebody make a comparison pic of Jay when he was at his very best circa 2001 and 2003 ironman...add 2009 as well and his first mr olympia in 2006



    dat width

    dat conditioning

    dat muscularity

    dat quads sweep

    dat shoulder size

    Mr Olympia 2014 who?

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    dat thong??
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    Originally Posted by BreitRon View Post
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    strong same background though hahaha



    Phil's worst showing vs Jay's best showing.




    Troll.









    Best vs best.
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    ^^ That's a much better battle.

    To be honest, (and I may catch a lot of heat for this) I have 2011 Phil beating 2009 Jay. I just prefer Phil's flow so much more than Jay's blocky physique.
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    Originally Posted by Masry3 View Post
    ^^ That's a much better battle.

    To be honest, (and I may catch a lot of heat for this) I have 2011 Phil beating 2009 Jay. I just prefer Phil's flow so much more than Jay's blocky physique.
    Im sure you are not the only one. I'd say it would be certainly close.
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    Indeed. People just look for every possible opportunity to neg Phil.
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    Originally Posted by Unbiasedfan View Post
    Im sure you are not the only one. I'd say it would be certainly close.
    Well anyone who says it isn't close has their head up their ass.
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    Originally Posted by flangmasterj View Post
    Well anyone who says it isn't close has their head up their ass.
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    2011 Phil > 2009 Jay, for me.
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    But but but what about Kai?
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    Originally Posted by Big Slim DaDDy View Post
    Phil's worst showing vs Jay's best showing.




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    Best vs best.
    09 wasn't his best showing though.
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    And still Jay 09 - Phil 11 !!! When they stand next to each other its game over !!!
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    Jay tends to be underrated because he spent his prime in Ronnie's shadow, but that Jay wouldn't get beaten today. He was the only one who could get close to the best bodybuilding freak ever and beat the rest of the greats from the 90s-early 2000s (except Dorian who was retired).

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    Phil's midsection is looking terrible now

    2011 phil was awesome, but it seems like he is getting worse.
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    Jay's back and arms just cant hang with phil's. I dont care how wide he is. Ruhl and Kjellström was on the same stage. And Jay has never been in the condition Phil consistently brings
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    Originally Posted by AnarkyLost View Post
    09 wasn't his best showing though.
    I used it because OP used 09 and 14.
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    Jay Arms in 2001 is just freaky. There is nothing wrong with Jay arms. And Phil arms are just overpowering hes body. But of course he is the golden boy, he should win, no matter how bad and pregnant he is. And i dont see how Phil beat best Jay in condition aspect. Its close, but still there is other factor, so Jay will outmass/width Phil and still be at superb condition.
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    Originally Posted by lordlosh View Post
    Jay Arms in 2001 is just freaky. There is nothing wrong with Jay arms. And Phil arms are just overpowering hes body. But of course he is the golden boy, he should win, no matter how bad and pregnant he is. And i dont see how Phil beat best Jay in condition aspect. Its close, but still there is other factor, so Jay will outmass/width Phil and still be at superb condition.
    You're more delusional than I thought if you really think their conditioning level was "close" in 2001. You're mindless hate for Phil blinds you from reality.
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    ^
    To be fair, Jay isn't fully flexing his glutes and hamstrings.

    Here's a better comparison picture for the bottom half (for Jay);


    From the front, it's much closer.
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    Originally Posted by RoroCwalker View Post
    ^
    To be fair, Jay isn't fully flexing his glutes and hamstrings.

    Here's a better comparison picture for the bottom half (for Jay);
    [img]http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1151/rls01.jpg]

    From the front, it's much closer.
    [img]http://forums.steroid.com/attachments/pictures-pro-bodybuilders/26155d1071790101-jay-cutler-2001-vs-jay-cutler-now-2001-jay-cutler.jpmg]
    Still doesn't change much though.

    Closer from the front yes, but not close.



    Yes different lighting, angles, camera etc. etc.
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