NEW Levrone talks about "Force Feeding" to grow

[PillClinton]

yeah, 2 lbs per months is what i've been aiming for for the last 12 months. i was making good progress up until my injury, now everything is out of whack and its very difficult to identify anything, i'm eating way more food than b4 getting injured yet i weigh 6 lbs less and am weaker everywhere including parts of me that were never injured to begin with :/

... .25lb is a lot more realistic for advanced lifters

[SammyJr]

... .25lb is a lot more realistic for advanced lifters

well 2 lbs per month starting from my contest condition of 155, so i know i wasn't gonna be gaining all muscle anyway.

but the point i was trying to make was I'm confused on why i lost a good amount of strength/size even though im eating more now. i did reduce protein by 25g and stopped all supps except protein but didn't think it'd be that drastic

[Manletbolic]

What i like about kevin levrones advice is that he mentions listening to the body. He told the dude to eat again if he felt hungry even though its 20minutes later after his meal

[transformerchad]

How'd this guy get levrones number and how can I get it ?

If I didn't force feed myself id be 140 lbs right now

From personal experience , force feeding shot my weight up fast but also resulted in loads of fat gains (chit loads) , considering one uses no "supplementation" its probably not the best idea . Might be different from person to person

[TheIronAsylum]

met KEvin Levrone today

[PillClinton]

well 2 lbs per month starting from my contest condition of 155, so i know i wasn't gonna be gaining all muscle anyway.

but the point i was trying to make was I'm confused on why i lost a good amount of strength/size even though im eating more now. i did reduce protein by 25g and stopped all supps except protein but didn't think it'd be that drastic

you've plateud, and more than likely won't improve significantly from where you are at now

[SammyJr]

From personal experience , force feeding shot my weight up fast but also resulted in loads of fat gains (chit loads) , considering one uses no "supplementation" its probably not the best idea . Might be different from person to person

i'm force feeding but not trying to gain a ton of mass. I'm only increasing carbs like 10g per week, very slow gains

met KEvin Levrone today

wat. explain in detail what happened and where u found him

you've plateud, and more than likely won't improve significantly from where you are at now

you're not understanding what I'm getting at.

1 little example, 6 months ago I was curling 60 lb dumbbells eating around 220p/380c/70f. Took a few months off b/c a pec problem. Been back in the gym for 2 months, I can only curl 40 lbs while eating 200p/450c/80f. Why are my biceps so weak now when they weren't even injured to begin with yet I'm eating more.

I was making continual progress up until the injury, no plateau at all.

i didn't think protein intake would be that much of a factor but maybe it is. plus maybe added stress has gotten me weaker, as well as only working out 1x per week instead of 2. idk

[PillClinton]

strength drops significantly faster than muscle... jeez man, youve been lifting for years... how have you not figured some of these things out?

[Canuck77]

met KEvin Levrone today

Nice. Where did you meet him? How was he looking physique wise? We never really saw the end of his summer transformation...

[TheIronAsylum]

i'm force feeding but not trying to gain a ton of mass. I'm only increasing carbs like 10g per week, very slow gains



wat. explain in detail what happened and where u found him


you're not understanding what I'm getting at.

Nice. Where did you meet him? How was he looking physique wise? We never really saw the end of his summer transformation...

he was at the Europa walking around talked for a bit took a picture . He really just looked like a normal guy

[Kiwi_]

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[SammyJr]

strength drops significantly faster than muscle... jeez man, youve been lifting for years... how have you not figured some of these things out?

Well I've never taken a break so that's probably how I didn't figure it out. Its still confusing to me but whatever

[PillClinton]

Well I've never taken a break so that's probably how I didn't figure it out. Its still confusing to me but whatever

sorry sammy, i didn't mean to come off as snapy (woke up a bit grumpy)

look man, this bodybuilding thing... it ebs and flows. Its like life; you can't always expect results to go the way you want them to, and you can't always force them either. Yet, just like life, it surprises you in ways that you don't expect.

Maybe that physique gives you respect and admiration from people in ways you don't realize until someone says something? Maybe your commitment to lifting has actually built a group of people who reach out to you and try to support your well-being?

Whatever direction you eb and flow is, letting go of looking at everything that isn't going as expected and starting to look more around you at what you are achieving is going to feel better

[Canuck77]

Well I've never taken a break so that's probably how I didn't figure it out. Its still confusing to me but whatever

Your strength will return in time. If you took a "few" months off (3 or more) and have only been back 2 months, it can take time to regain strength et. As stated, your size will usually return somewhat faster than your strength (at least in most cases, including mine). Overall strength, technique and muscle mass can deterioriate in relatively short time periods, even body parts that were/are healthy, like your biceps for example.

Check this body recomposition article.

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/tra...ayoff-qa.html/

i've dreamed of moments like that. hnnnng, would hire levrone as my PT one day. how come he doesn't go to the big olympia expos and all that?

This will be you and Coach Kevin after you go full blown...baby...

[NZninja101]

Anybody have pics of Levrone from several months after Mr O where he stopped lifting to give his body a break from the supplements and focus on music? Would be interesting to see how small he got before blowing the fuk up again.


Also here's a crazy thought. Imagine being Kevin in the 90s and realising that you're probably gaining muscle faster than anybody else on the entire planet.

[Larfleeze]

You're only working out once a week and you're wondering why your strength isn't quite what it was? Come on Sammy man!

[flangmasterj]

maybe added stress has gotten me weaker, as well as only working out 1x per week instead of 2. idk

You're only working out once a week and you're wondering why your strength isn't quite what it was? Come on Sammy man!

Are you literally working out once a week or each body part once a week?

[SammyJr]

Your strength will return in time. If you took a "few" months off (3 or more) and have only been back 2 months, it can take time to regain strength et. As stated, your size will usually return somewhat faster than your strength (at least in most cases, including mine). Overall strength, technique and muscle mass can deterioriate in relatively short time periods, even body parts that were/are healthy, like your biceps for example.

Check this body recomposition article.
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ty for the article, will read soon.

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You're only working out once a week and you're wondering why your strength isn't quite what it was? Come on Sammy man!

. you're probably right. i need better time management skills. i've been avoiding going more than 1x b/c it takes a lot of time, plus i literally end up spending my entire day trying to get macros in.

Are you literally working out once a week or each body part once a week?

for 5 years i did monday/wednesday - upper.. tuesday/thursday - lower

now im doing once a week.. for like 3.5 hours. (upper and lower) so i work biceps/triceps/delts/chest/back/hammies/quads/glutes lol. pretty stupid i know but it gives me the most time to study on weekends.
i'll probably keep doing that 1x per week but also go another day and just do upper. i am trying to be careful about my legs and not getting reinjured so just 1x/week for legs for now. really need to up my chest game too... all i've been doing are flyes machines and crap for good pumps ugh

[flangmasterj]

now im doing once a week.. for like 3.5 hours. (upper and lower) so i work biceps/triceps/delts/chest/back/hammies/quads/glutes lol. pretty stupid i know but it gives me the most time to study on weekends.

Don't complain about getting weaker then.

[Larfleeze]

If you can only make it once a week wouldn't you be best doing a PL style routine of heavy ass compounds?

[flangmasterj]

Does crossfit once a week, wonders why he's not gaining size or strength.

[Larfleeze]

Does crossfit once a week, wonders why he's not gaining size or strength.

Could be a meme. "Oblivious lifter"

[SammyJr]

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Don't complain about getting weaker then.

can't see what the pic is of. a lot of guys only work out one body part per week, i didn't expect strength loss from it

If you can only make it once a week wouldn't you be best doing a PL style routine of heavy ass compounds?

probably, i will try to change it soon.

Does crossfit once a week, wonders why he's not gaining size or strength.

i will cut you

[flangmasterj]

can't see what the pic is of. a lot of guys only work out one body part per week, i didn't expect strength loss from it

Yeah but how many guys would do that one body part along with every other one within a 3.5 hour marathon?

You know better than that Sammy.

[SammyJr]

i've made a fool of myself yet again flang, what can i say

[Larfleeze]

Yeah but how many guys would do that one body part along with every other one within a 3.5 hour marathon?

You know better than that Sammy.

This, your CNS must be fried as hell doing that

[SammyJr]

This, your CNS must be fried as hell doing that

What exactly does this mean ? I've heard it before but not sure what its exactly saying. I know its central nervous system but how's it getting fried and what's going to happen when it gets fried

Is that just another way of saying I'll be exhausted and too tired to do increased weight and stuff

[RoroCwalker]

What exactly does this mean ? I've heard it before but not sure what its exactly saying. I know its central nervous system but how's it getting fried and what's going to happen when it gets fried

Is that just another way of saying I'll be exhausted and too tired to do increased weight and stuff

Depends on what oil you use to fry it.

[Canuck77]

What exactly does this mean ? I've heard it before but not sure what its exactly saying. I know its central nervous system but how's it getting fried and what's going to happen when it gets fried

Is that just another way of saying I'll be exhausted and too tired to do increased weight and stuff

Dang son. Not only that but a 3.5 marathon workout is just counterproductive for building muscle. We all know that testosterone helps us to build muscle, Cortisol does the opposite. It is a catabolic hormone that reduces protein synthesis and prevents tissue growth.

It is after about 1 hour or so of lifting when testosterone levels begin to drop and Cortisol levels begin to rise. This of course is a bad combination and is why any good muscle building routine can be completed in about an hour or so.

[yzrider400f]

couldn't handle the bro sci in that vid