Notre Dame vs Florida state

[Tears]

Only believe half of what see and none of what you hear in the media. The kid isn't a bad kid at all. Yes he makes some dumb kiddy mistakes but so did majority of misc at age 19-20. The rest of what you hear is over sensationlization from the media.

At the end of the day it is his play on the field that matters. His play last night shows he is the real deal.

Only the student union incident could be considered "dumb kiddy mistakes"

shooting windows out with bb guns, being accused of rape, stealing, are not.

[topperstyle]

Only the student union incident could be considered "dumb kiddy mistakes"

shooting windows out with bb guns, being accused of rape, stealing, are not.

Strong username to what's running down your face right now ratio

[Tears]

Strong username to what's running down your face right now ratio

make less sense.

[Godyssey]

thoughts on this? top comment on ESPN

"Despite what the announcers say, it isn't possible for an eligible receiver to (correctly) be called for an illegal pick IF the DB is pressing him and doesn't attempt to disengage. Terrible, terrible call."

here are my thoughts crybaby:




Your butthurt negs won't Change the outcome of the game. Get over and stop being a sore loser.

[Heaney]

We are going to pretend both WR's didn't do it?

lol this, the outside WR looked like he was boxing out in basketball ffs

[tsbalr120]

thoughts on this? top comment on ESPN

"Despite what the announcers say, it isn't possible for an eligible receiver to (correctly) be called for an illegal pick IF the DB is pressing him and doesn't attempt to disengage. Terrible, terrible call."

Bump to see if this is true or not.

[cncman]

Notre dame has done nothing noteworthy other than beating an overrated stanford. It was a pipe dream that they could beat an actual good team (although fsu is NOT a top 2 team)

[Niko49ers]

Anyone got a gif or video of that call with the pick play? I was celebrating my 21st and missed the last half of the game.

[motivat3d]

Anyone got a gif or video of that call with the pick play? I was celebrating my 21st and missed the last half of the game.

Edit: guess this forum doesn't allow vines. Here's a video link of the play from the sideline.

www.vine.co/v/ObOBAdPbI5a

[smokeater]

It was alleged he raped someone right? Even if he did nothing that is a pretty strong allegation. Where there's smoke there's fire. Kid needs to mature quickly.

Years ago, when the show Hard Knocks first started and they were following the Baltimore Ravens, I remember watching a clip of a lawyer come into conduct a session with the team. It was about how the guys shouldn't be having one night stands and things of that nature. I remember the lawyer citing facts regarding professional athletes and alleged incidents of sexual assault. I don't remember the exact number but it was something along the lines of about 250,000 alleged incidents of sexual assault (obviously only documented instances) in the US annually, and only something like 300 or so were against pro or college athletes. The lawyer went onto discuss how she has represented numerous athletes who were accused of sexual assault, and how many of the claims were not very credible. One of the claims was from a 20 minute encounter at the bar a year prior. All so these guys can be extorted or simply brought down.

As serious as the allegations are, which obviously need to be investigated fully, this little clip from Hard Knocks put a lot of that in perspective. I previously assumed the statistics would be disproportionate against the pro and college athletes (ie athlete who thinks he is above the law and can do what they want). Was pretty shocked to see that of all the college and pro athletes in North America there were only a few hundred (I hate using the term "only" but you know what I mean). Since then I don't leap to conclusions about any of these alleged instances.

But, yes Winston needs to mature quickly. He has got every tool necessary to be an awesome NFL football player. It'd be too bad to see him waste it the way he appears destined to.