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    Will Sergio Oliva Jr. win the Mr. Olympia one day?

    So this guy Sergio Oliva Jr. has the genetics of a super human.

    I dont' see why he can't follow in his fathers foot steps and win the Olympia atleast once.

    Thoughts on this?
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    Not a chance based on the pics I've seen, but they were a couple of years old
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    Not a chance based on the pics I've seen, but they were a couple of years old
    He's looking great and doing good things lately though...........

    http://sergioolivajr.com/

    Before his dad passed away Im sure he learned all he needed to know about being a real pro at this sport. His father groomed him himself and taught him everything he knew. Imagine the secrets we will never know that this kid knows already? All that's in his way is the amount of time he wants to put into this. If he works hard Im sure he can win the Olympia one day. He definitely has the genetics from his father.
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    1984 Mr Olympia as an infant? So he's over 30..? No he's too old and too far into his bodybuilding career to make the necessary progress

    Edit-not saying 30 is old in bodybuilding BTW just that he's nowhere near the likes of other guys who will still be competitive for years
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    I remember seeing videos on Youtube of Sergio Jr. and Labrada's son working out together. Sergio jr. looked bigger than he ever looked.
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    he looks good, except 4 that tribal tattoo

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    Last time He competed , he looked like this in 2014 where he stood 3rd at the Jr. Nationals Superheavy class

    good legs , needs more overall mass IMO. Has a good frame. but not quite enough to make it big... yet


    and ofcourse



    Wil look crazy as he adds more mass.

    From what I have read , he started training in 2004 . His father , Sergio Oliva Sr. was actually against him training with weights. Not only did he not want Jr. to compete, he didn't even want him to start working out .

    He is a tall man [in bodybuilding sense] 6'0" with contest weight 250 lbs { acc. to labrada.com } .

    He isn't even a pro yet , no where near the top bodybuilding scene and I don't think he will even appear at the O anytime soon, let alone win. But there is huge potential.
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    seems like he doesn't have the back insertions. it would be cool to have the son of a legend compete on a high level

    imagine arnold's kid competing against sergio's kid lol
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    Originally Posted by AdamantiumYoke View Post
    Last time He competed , he looked like this

    good legs , needs more overall mass IMO. Has a good frame. but not quite enough to make it big... yet


    and ofcourse



    Wil look crazy as he adds more mass.

    From what I have read , he started training in 2004 . His father , Sergio Oliva Sr. was actually against him training with weights. Not only did he not want Jr. to compete, he didn't even want him to start working out .

    He is a tall man [in bodybuilding sense] 6'0" with contest weight 250 lbs { acc. to labrada.com } .

    He isn't even a pro yet , no where near the top bodybuilding scene and I don't think he will even appear at the O anytime soon, let alone win. But there is huge potential.
    Did his father fear that Bodybuilding would have a bad influence on him?
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    Originally Posted by GetSwole79 View Post
    Did his father fear that Bodybuilding would have a bad influence on him?
    I think it's not about the 'influence' but that he wanted a stable career for his son... When Sr. competed , there wasn't much money involved and he had to do another fulltime job too. So that maybe influenced his opinion.
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    sr probably just had a lot of resentment against the ifbb and didn't want his son associated with it, fearing sr's past actions would affect jr's future
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    Originally Posted by bartosh View Post
    seems like he doesn't have the back insertions. it would be cool to have the son of a legend compete on a high level

    imagine arnold's kid competing against sergio's kid lol
    That's the problem. Great genetics of all kinds are anomalies. Arnold and Sergio were exceptionally gifted, so their kids will have above average genetics, but its doesn't mean that they are at their dads' level. Is like saying that geniuses must also have geniuses children. Probably they will be smart, but not with IQ's off the chart.
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    That's the problem. Great genetics of all kinds are anomalies. Arnold and Sergio were exceptionally gifted, so their kids will have above average genetics, but its doesn't mean that they are at their dads' level. Is like saying that geniuses must also have geniuses children. Probably they will be smart, but not with IQ's off the chart.
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    Why don't we have a single pro with such proportions.....phil looks quite symetrical but nowhere near some amataurs.
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    Looks good but has a lot more mass to pack on. Never was a big fans of the myths body top, but lots of respect.
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    Not big enough, has great genetics, but nowhere near his father's unfortunately. I don't see him ever getting his pro card tbh.
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    Will Sergio Oliva Jr. win the Mr. Olympia one day?
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    Has all the tools to make it, just has to have the desire and consistency to make a splash into the pro ranks.
    Has all the tools that any top pro has to date.

    I think Sergio Sr wanted to protect his son from disappointment, as Sr had a bitter relationship with the IFBB regarding placements ect....
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    Here is a video of Sergio Jr. training this past July.

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    I think Sergio Sr wanted to protect his son from disappointment, as Sr had a bitter relationship with the IFBB regarding placements ect....

    Maybe Sergio didn't want his son to take all the 'supplements' that are needed to be successful at the highest level.
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    To me Sergio = Brandon Curry with with worse muscle bellies/insertions. Has very high lats.
    He has much better legs than Curry though.

    He can still do well if he packs on a ton of size but I don't see Olympia potential in him.

    I think Sergio Jr. had a lot of resentment towards his father and they didn't have a very good relationship seems like.
    In interviews he said his father didn't help him whatsoever and was not supportive at all.
    I think they reconciled shortly before Sergio Sr.'s death however.
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    If he gets to this level of thickness it would be debatable

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    Originally Posted by transformerchad View Post
    If he gets to this level of thickness it would be debatable

    This ^
    It's too soon to say " He'll never be a pro" . He needs to add overall mass( especially to the torso) before we can criticize him. He is like 30 right now... I see him becoming full blown in 2 years if he is serious and goes crazy on the supps.
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    Originally Posted by AdamantiumYoke View Post
    This ^
    It's too soon to say " He'll never be a pro" . He needs to add overall mass( especially to the torso) before we can criticize him. He is like 30 right now... I see him becoming full blown in 2 years if he is serious and goes crazy on the supps.
    ... and probably destroy his life expectancy.

    With a frame like that, the genes (father (before bodybuilding, he was a very good athlete (weightlifter)) and mother (she was and is a very beautiful woman)), he could do well in Men's fitness and/or CrossFit.

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    Last time He competed , he looked like this in 2014 where he stood 3rd at the Jr. Nationals Superheavy class

    good legs , needs more overall mass IMO. Has a good frame. but not quite enough to make it big... yet


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    Wil look crazy as he adds more mass.

    From what I have read , he started training in 2004 . His father , Sergio Oliva Sr. was actually against him training with weights. Not only did he not want Jr. to compete, he didn't even want him to start working out .

    He is a tall man [in bodybuilding sense] 6'0" with contest weight 250 lbs { acc. to labrada.com } .

    He isn't even a pro yet , no where near the top bodybuilding scene and I don't think he will even appear at the O anytime soon, let alone win. But there is huge potential.
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    I have to say I am surprised. Like many others I expected Sergio Jr. to be phenomenal. Oh well. At least he loves the sport. I think if he improves enough he could get his pro card, based on his leg development.
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    I have to say I spoke too soon about Sergio Jr.

    He's made massive gains, he's looking absolutely beastly recently.
    If he keeps gaining at this pace he can do some damage if he brings up his weak areas.

    Definitely got his father's arm genetics.

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    Yeah he has made some good gains, and will be competing in July. I think he was talking about starting prep in an IG post. There are some younger and better pros already on the scene, and he will have to work really hard to be a top pro anytime soon. He still needs 3-4 years to be of significance imo ( assuming he earns the pro card this time ).
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    Originally Posted by AdamantiumYoke View Post
    Yeah he has made some good gains, and will be competing in July. I think he was talking about starting prep in an IG post. There are some younger and better pros already on the scene, and he will have to work really hard to be a top pro anytime soon. He still needs 3-4 years to be of significance imo ( assuming he earns the pro card this time ).
    The bellies in his arms are very Phil-like, really full and he has some thick forearms. He also has some solid legs already.

    I think the real question will be how much and how quickly he can bring his back and chest up, his weak areas. I think he has relatively high lat insertions like Dennis Wolf which will be a disadvantage.

    All that being said he's made a surprising amount of progress in a short amount of time.
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