AP Poll Week 8

[jtaylor2010]

I'm torn. Tennessee is a rival and therefore deserves to be burned to the ground but I need Ole Miss to lose a couple.

Such a dilemma

I briefly knew that feel after losing to Mizzou....then I realized SC sucks this year so it doesn't really matter.

[neighborr]

I'm torn. Tennessee is a rival and therefore deserves to be burned to the ground but I need Ole Miss to lose a couple.

Such a dilemma

Cheer for what's best for your team imo. You need Ole piss to lose.

[Mafiafolife77]

You talk about sample size, but then you only use this year as a measuring stick. Last year MS. State played OK State and Ole Miss played Texas. Every other team except Vandy plays at least one legit OOC opponent. A&M has had weak schedules because of the move to the SEC, but it'll be tougher in coming years. Mizzou should step it up, but again they were affected by the move. Yes every school from every conference plays laughable teams in OOC games, but the SEC also schedules legit OOC games and usually wins them.

If I honestly cared enough, I would go back in previous years to support my argument. But it seems like a lot of work to prove something that I already know, I just don't care enough to convince you tbh lol. Non-$EC fans have been making this argument for years though, this year isn't some damn anomaly man. The $EC still played less conference games than the Pac-12 last season. I'm simply using this year to support an argument that non-$EC fans have been using for years now. If you care enough to disprove it, go ahead. Show me the discrepency between the $EC/Pac-12 in OOC games played vs Power 5 teams and the discrepency between number of FCS teams scheduled in previous years...while keeping in mind that the $EC has more teams in their conference.

BTW, pretty much every conference plays at least one "legit" OOC opponent each year. That doesn't really hurt my argument at all. Especially when you consider the fact that the $EC plays MORE OOC opponents...I would hope they play at least one "legit" opponent in that time, although if you look at some of the $EC teams, some of them don't even do that. Ole Piss, TAMU, and Vandy all don't play a single Power 5 OOC opponent this season iirc. There's simply no excuse for that given the circumstances.

Sorry...got you mixed up with all the other dumbasses who say there is some ESPN conspiracy to keep SEC teams ranked high. But to your point, again you're only using ONE year which is why I said go back and look at the 5 year trend. It would give a more accurate representation of scheduling habits. Just looking at last year's schedule the SEC played 16 OOC games against teams from Power 5 Conferences. Plus it's pretty fukking convenient for your argument that you get to count poverty BYU for 2 games as a legit OOC opponent but the SEC doesn't get to count ECU or UCF. Then you talk about how the other OOC games the SEC plays aren't as good as other conferences.... I guess So Cal's game against BC was a tough OOC game, but when UGA played clemson it wasn't.

I wouldn't call it a conspiracy...I would call it E$PN simply protecting their interests. They have a vested financial interest in the $EC, there's no way you can deny that. You'd be dumb to believe that E$PN doesn't have an agenda given that fact, all you have to do is watch their damn CFB shows or look at their recruiting rankings to see it.

And of course I'm going to count ND and BYU as legit OOC opponents. Just because they are not affiliated with any conference doesn't mean they aren't legit. If they are successful and profitable enough to go independent as they have, it should tell you something about the legitimacy of their programs.

I'd imagine just about all teams play one FCS team every year since it can count towards bowl eligibility. So Cal doesn't this year, but I'm guessing every other SEC and Pac 12 school do.

I'm not questioning whether or not almost all teams play at least one FCS opponent a year, I'm questioning the discrepency between the amount of FCS teams the $EC plays compared to other conferences. For the record though, the B1G announced in 2013 that they will not be scheduling FCS opponents anymore.

lmao...like ECU,UCF Utah State, Northern Illinois, etc. aren't as good as some of the poverty teams other conferences lose to.

Those teams, due to their conference strength/affiliation, don't really get the benefit of the doubt as far as I'm concerned. It's easy to say they are legit due to their rankings in a given year, but you have to keep in mind what chitty conference they play in. Seems like every year there is 1-2 of these teams that end up highly ranked that end up blowing it. UCF was an exception last season. Northern Illinois the last 2 years wasn't. It's hit or miss with these type of teams, so I refuse to count them as "legit" OOC opponents given their conference strength/affiliation. I think you'd be surprised by how well mid-low tier Power 5 teams would fare if they were given the same weak in-conference schedule as the teams you listed.

Again you're using one year, and your argument is potato as hell for anyone who actually watches the sport. There is no magical formula the SEC uses to skew the rankings...it's called winning the games. Plus one of the big factors that goes into a teams initial ranking is how they played in the bowl game. Over the last 5 years the SEC is 30-18 in bowls. The Pac 12 16-19. In the last 5 years the Pac 12 has a losing bowl record and in one of those years only managed to get 4 teams bowl eligible(and then go 2-2 in bowls). Maybe you should be more concerned about the Pac 12 winning games instead of how the SEC schedules opponents.

Gee, you think the Pac-12 would have had more teams bowl eligible if they had 2 additional teams like the $EC has had over the years?? $EC logic.

Look, I'm not here to try and discount what the $EC has done in bowl games. It is definitely a legit accomplishment. I've listed my gripes and issues I have with everything that leads up to bowl placement/games. The issue I have is strictly with the $EC scheduling and the unfair perception that the $EC has gained as a result.

List of OOC games played by sec teams this year:

Bama plays WVU
Georgia plays Clemson/GT
Florida plays FSU
Lsu Plays Wisconsin
South Carolina plays Clemson/ECU
Auburn plays Kansas St
Missouri plays UCF
Tennessee plays OU

We can go back another year to where LSU whooped TCU. Or another where Lsu took a big fat chit all over Oregon. Etc etc

All those games that have been played (besides tenn-OU) have one thing in common: the SEC team won

Does that not mean anything to you? What potato argument will you come up to discredit all of these quality OOC wins?

It sounds like you are missing the point I'm trying to make (although I'm not sure how that's possible).

I'm not trying to discredit the quality OOC wins by the $EC. I'm trying to discredit the $EC scheduling as a whole. It's cool that you guys have some legit OOC wins, and imma let you finish but....you still play less conference games than a conference with less teams than you. You still play less games against Power 5 opponents OOC even while having MORE teams in your conference and MORE OOC games scheduled.

I posted in that thread why your list sucked and I see you never responded.

Also in that thread, mafia you cali boylover, looking like a fool again.

Mafia exposed yet again. All you SEC haters are bunch of braindead clowns.

LOL @ "exposed". Child please. I've been way more wrong about chit in this section before. This is not one of those instances. Not even close. I stand by everything I said.

It's sad that you're too stupid to address the legitimate points I've brought up ITT that actually pertain to the topic you're trying to call me out on. At least jtaylor has made an attempt. Miss St is a perfect example of the p*ssy, favorable $EC scheduling format that I've already brought up ITT. Their first 3 games were against teams nobody has ever heard of. They actually kind of struggled against UAB ffs (26-20 at halftime? lol). They went from being unranked to a top 15 team after beating an LSU team that isn't even ranked anymore. Their last 2 wins have been somewhat legit, but TAMU will also most likely be unranked if they lose to Alabama this week as expected.

Anyways, does this mean when Miss St inevitably crumbles and falls from the #1 spot I can make a post "exposing" you?? Or will you come up with excuses in typical $EC fashion?? Like I said before, the bottom line is that the $EC plays LESS conference games and MORE OOC cupcakes than a conference with less teams (Pac-12). If anything has been "exposed" ITT it is the laughable $EC scheduling.

[BishsBMirin]

It's so damn hard to stay positive seeing Golson commit 9 turnovers in 3 games. Although I'm never going to complain about where we stand in terms of rankings, getting exposed is a truly chitty feeling. And last weeks UNC game is starting to give me 2012 flashbacks when I think about this upcoming Saturday.

[woody19]

It's so damn hard to stay positive seeing Golson commit 9 turnovers in 3 games. Although I'm never going to complain about where we stand in terms of rankings, getting exposed is a truly chitty feeling. And last weeks UNC game is starting to give me 2012 flashbacks when I think about this Saturday.

The silver lining is you are still winning in spite of it, if Golson gets his **** together, you should still be in the top 10 at seasons end

[BishsBMirin]

The silver lining is you are still winning in spite of it, if Golson gets his **** together, you should still be in the top 10 at seasons end

Hope so brother. We just need to win a big one (this weekend) to give ourselves credibility to go along with our ranking.

[woody19]

Hope so brother. We just need to win a big one (this weekend) to give ourselves credibility to go along with our ranking.

Yeah hopefully we can string some wins together so the USC vs ND game at least looks good on paper. We look like we are playing the role of spoiler this year.

[jalundah]

Mafia still has not responded to a single one of my posts.

SEC teams(outside of Vandy) have blown out all their scrub opponents

The scrub opponents that the Pac12 teams have played have covered the spread in damn near every game, i.e. Hawaii, UTSA, Portland State, Eastern Washington.

Plz disprove this.

[SteelFlexington]

Yeah hopefully we can string some wins together so the USC vs ND game at least looks good on paper. We look like we are playing the role of spoiler this year.

USC fan checking in, hope ND wins this weekend, but it's not going to happen, probably won't stay within 3 scores of FSU.

Headed to Norman saturday with my friend who's a huge K-State fan, and I'm thinking KSU could pull it out. Then heading back up the 8th of Nov to watch Baylor lay some pipe in Norman

[woody19]

Mafia still has not responded to a single one of my posts.

SEC teams(outside of Vandy) have blown out all their scrub opponents

The scrub opponents that the Pac12 teams have played have covered the spread in damn near every game, i.e. Hawaii, UTSA, Portland State, Eastern Washington.

Plz disprove this.

Vernon Adams is like the black Russel Wilson, hes legit, he would cause trouble for lots of teams.

[=T Bone=]

Whether you're an FSU fan or not; this is SEC bias at its best. Just lol if you think an sec team would get trumped for #1 after they won the NC.

lol que? Alabama won the title in 2011 and USC opened the season #1 in the AP Poll in 2012

Alabama would go on to win the title again while USC finished 7-6

[Calhexas]

The majority of mafia's arguments are laughable and pretty much just anti-sec drivel, but I agree with him on one thing...8 conference games is a joke. Should be 9-10 being it's a 14 team conference

[Tears]

Can't believe this guy is still going on about the Pac 12's inferiority complex towards the SEC. You think he'd get tired after how many years?

[jtaylor2010]

The majority of mafia's arguments are laughable and pretty much just anti-sec drivel, but I agree with him on one thing...8 conference games is a joke. Should be 9-10 being it's a 14 team conference

I don't want to see a 9 game conference schedule, but I'm not adamantly against it or anything. If they change it then fukk it, but it isn't optimal for SC(or most other East teams). And just fukkin lol at 10 game conference schedule. So SC, UF, UGA, and UK should have exactly ONE free game to schedule an opponent? Even with 9 we would only have two. This year we play 8 plus ECU and clemson. Next year we play UNC, UCF, and clemson again. It's not hard to come up with a legit schedule, and I like the freedom to schedule OOC teams so we can get more matchups that we wouldn't see otherwise. Plus it helps us to be able to play those NC teams for recruiting purposes.

[DeshaunWatson]

I don't want to see a 9 game conference schedule, but I'm not adamantly against it or anything. If they change it then fukk it, but it isn't optimal for SC(or most other East teams). And just fukkin lol at 10 game conference schedule. So SC, UF, UGA, and UK should have exactly ONE free game to schedule an opponent? Even with 9 we would only have two. This year we play 8 plus ECU and clemson. Next year we play UNC, UCF, and clemson again. It's not hard to come up with a legit schedule, and I like the freedom to schedule OOC teams so we can get more matchups that we wouldn't see otherwise. Plus it helps us to be able to play those NC teams for recruiting purposes.

I hope you come into DV with 5 games needing to beat us to be bowl eligible






He will be back by GT and ready to become the new Coot Killer

[elchildish]

all Dan Mullen's agent needs to do is start a Florida vs. Michigan bidding war and kick back

florida will probably win since michigan is also replacing half its damn athletic department

[HumptyBrah]

I don't want to see a 9 game conference schedule, but I'm not adamantly against it or anything. If they change it then fukk it, but it isn't optimal for SC(or most other East teams). And just fukkin lol at 10 game conference schedule. So SC, UF, UGA, and UK should have exactly ONE free game to schedule an opponent? Even with 9 we would only have two. This year we play 8 plus ECU and clemson. Next year we play UNC, UCF, and clemson again. It's not hard to come up with a legit schedule, and I like the freedom to schedule OOC teams so we can get more matchups that we wouldn't see otherwise. Plus it helps us to be able to play those NC teams for recruiting purposes.

How many items of clothing do you own that say COCKS on them somewhere?

[jtaylor2010]

How many items of clothing do you own that say COCKS on them somewhere?

A lot.

[DeshaunWatson]

How many items of clothing do you own that say COCKS on them somewhere?

I can confirm, JT has this hat. His kids do too <333

[jtaylor2010]

I hope you come into DV with 5 games needing to beat us to be bowl eligible






He will be back by GT and ready to become the new Coot Killer

Decent possibility of that being the case. If clemson can't best us this year y'all need to just to ahead and give yourselves the death penalty then start all over.

[jtaylor2010]

I can confirm, JT has this hat. His kids do too <333

Never wear a hat crew checkin in....sorry bro

[Calhexas]

I don't want to see a 9 game conference schedule, but I'm not adamantly against it or anything. If they change it then fukk it, but it isn't optimal for SC(or most other East teams). And just fukkin lol at 10 game conference schedule. So SC, UF, UGA, and UK should have exactly ONE free game to schedule an opponent? Even with 9 we would only have two. This year we play 8 plus ECU and clemson. Next year we play UNC, UCF, and clemson again. It's not hard to come up with a legit schedule, and I like the freedom to schedule OOC teams so we can get more matchups that we wouldn't see otherwise. Plus it helps us to be able to play those NC teams for recruiting purposes.

Nobody makes you play the same team out of conference every year.

That being said, 9 games is minimum IMO. I don't understand how you're going to play 1 more than half the conference. It's pathetic. I wouldn't mind 10 though. Honestly I'd prefer we play only teams from the Power 5.

[jtaylor2010]

Nobody makes you play the same team out of conference every year.

That being said, 9 games is minimum IMO. I don't understand how you're going to play 1 more than half the conference. It's pathetic. I wouldn't mind 10 though. Honestly I'd prefer we play only teams from the Power 5.

Actually there is a law that says SC and clemson have to play each other(srs). Plus it would be dumb as hell not to. That's like Auburn joining the Big 12 and then me telling you "well no one says you have to play them ever year".

I like the OOC matchups that we see every year. You think Bama would be playing So Cal if they had to play 10 conference games? My ideal system would be:

1 instate FCS school to help smaller schools in your state

1 decent-good team that's either independent or not from a power 5 conference

2 OOC games against a team from another power 5

8 conference games



If we did that the small schools could stay afloat and still offer decent scholarships to athletes. The competitive schools that are independent or from a lesser conference still get a chance to move up and we still get good upsets. We will always have great OOC matchups to enjoy. We have enough conference games to easily determine the best from each division.

[DPharrell]

Haven't followed college football too closely this yr.

Can someone please confirm...

Is Nick Saban still a c*nt?

And does the SEC circle jerk still exist to the point where even rival fans in the conference go for their rival schools just to say, "Yay SEC conference, we did it!"

[PervedOut]

Haven't followed college football too closely this yr.

Can someone please confirm...

Is Nick Saban still a c*nt?

And does the SEC circle jerk still exist to the point where even rival fans in the conference go for their rival schools just to say, "Yay SEC conference, we did it!"

loool, here we go again

[jalundah]

SEC haters are some of the most idiotic people on this forum. Most are USC or Oregon fans, and usually Laker homers as well. So it makes sense.

Nobody who is a fan of an SEC team will legitimately cheer for other teams in the conference(aside from maybe some bowl games). The issue is you *******s claiming that the SEC isn't the best conference (which is sheer nonsense), and fans of teams in the SEC are defending the fact that it clearly is the best, and you idiots interpret these people as being "fans of the conference".

I find it even more ridiculous that people specifically cheer for every other team outside of the conference that plays an SEC team... Even if you don't consider yourself a "Pac 12 fan" or "ACC fan", you so desperately want to dethrone the SEC that you cheer for every other team in the OOC games and every team in your conference in their OOC games... making you a hypocritical dipchit

[Calhexas]

SEC haters are some of the most idiotic people on this forum. Most are USC or Oregon fans, and usually Laker homers as well. So it makes sense.

Nobody who is a fan of an SEC team will legitimately cheer for other teams in the conference(aside from maybe some bowl games). The issue is you *******s claiming that the SEC isn't the best conference (which is sheer nonsense), and fans of teams in the SEC are defending the fact that it clearly is the best, and you idiots interpret these people as being "fans of the conference".

I find it even more ridiculous that people specifically cheer for every other team outside of the conference that plays an SEC team... Even if you don't consider yourself a "Pac 12 fan" or "ACC fan", you so desperately want to dethrone the SEC that you cheer for every other team in the OOC games and every team in your conference in their OOC games... making you a hypocritical dipchit

So much this.

Basically you either accept the notion that the SEC isn't the best conference, or they call you an "SEC fan" for explaining why it is. Any attempt to argue with the SEC-haters means you root for the entire southeastern conference.

Lol so pathetic

[ElJefe904]

SEC haters are some of the most idiotic people on this forum. Most are USC or Oregon fans, and usually Laker homers as well. So it makes sense.

Nobody who is a fan of an SEC team will legitimately cheer for other teams in the conference(aside from maybe some bowl games). The issue is you *******s claiming that the SEC isn't the best conference (which is sheer nonsense), and fans of teams in the SEC are defending the fact that it clearly is the best, and you idiots interpret these people as being "fans of the conference".

I find it even more ridiculous that people specifically cheer for every other team outside of the conference that plays an SEC team... Even if you don't consider yourself a "Pac 12 fan" or "ACC fan", you so desperately want to dethrone the SEC that you cheer for every other team in the OOC games and every team in your conference in their OOC games... making you a hypocritical dipchit

Speak for yourself but only team I care to root for is FSU and only FSU. Don't give a **** how the rest of our conference does during the season. I lived in Florida all my life until last year and let me tell you the SEC fans(most not all) are screaming "SEC SEC SEC" instead of their team chants which is sickening. Never will you see me root for Clemson in a bowl game! EVER! I don't get what it proves to see another SEC team win a bowl game...DO you get an award or something?

ACC had a **** year last year and it still didnt effect FSU's standing because they won out.

edit: and yes I think the SEC is the stronger conference but who the f*ck cares

[jalundah]

edit: and yes I think the SEC is the stronger conference but who the f*ck cares

mafia and other idiots ITT

[jalundah]

also, of course nobody is going to cheer for a RIVAL team no matter if you're a "conference fan" or not. As I said before, being an Ole Miss fan I want MS State and LSU to lose every single game they play.

If any OM fans cheer for MS St or LSU(or FSU fans cheer for Clemson), they aren't real football fans and football is only relevant in their lives because their team is good