As you all know arnold retired from bodybuilding in 1975 after winning 6 olympias, he then came out of retirement to win one more in 1980, my question is considering the competition at the time would he have won every title between 1975 and 1980?
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10-11-2014, 01:16 AM #1Registered User
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Would Arnold have won all Mr olympia titles betwen 1975 and 1980?
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10-11-2014, 11:08 AM #2
easily
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10-11-2014, 12:19 PM #3Sexual Tyrannosaurus
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With ease.
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10-11-2014, 12:21 PM #4Registered User
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Oh boy.....not one of these threads.
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10-11-2014, 12:27 PM #5TORNADO KICK
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so easily it wouldnt even be funny, and he would have looked good enough to deserve(without question) the 80 O
if he would have kept up his training.
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10-11-2014, 12:32 PM #6Registered User
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Without a shadow of a doubt. And he would have had a few after that as well. I see the 84 Haney being his real first test to be honest.
I know we all talk about Ronnie as the GOAT, but in terms of longevity and how far ahead of the competition he was, Arnold has no match.
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10-11-2014, 12:36 PM #7Registered User
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Nobody was or has been since on Ronnie's level in terms of freakinessOriginally Posted by TropicalSunset
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10-11-2014, 01:45 PM #8Registered User
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100% agree, but I am talking about being dominant in their era. Ronnie's 99-00 physique is the greatest ever, but you have to put it within the context of the time the person competed in.Originally Posted by trulyhuge1
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10-11-2014, 05:06 PM #9You paid your dues bro?
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This. Arnold technically could have chosen to be the 10 time (or more) Mr O if he wanted which would technically make him the GOAT. He just decided 6 was enough (and then a cheeky 7th) and went on to do what he's done. Ronnie on the other hand had no choice but to retire and only achieved 8.Originally Posted by TropicalSunset
Ronnie still best freak physique and no one can take that away for a long timeIG: waldronconstruction
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10-11-2014, 05:18 PM #10twitter.com/RicEllis88
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Yes, but there was no point in doing so. With everything else he wanted to accomplish, sticking around and winning wouldn't have helped him in that world. His legacy is already one of (If not the best) in all of bodybuilding. To me, he is the best; Regardless if he only has 7 titles compared to Haney and Coleman. But some only go by the number of titles, which is fair.
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10-11-2014, 07:53 PM #11Registered User
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as others have already stated he was just that far ahead of the rest of the competition. a lot of "what ifs?" what if he stayed relatively around the size he was for the 1975 olympia for the rest of his career because of juggling a movie career? what if he had never become the high paid actor he would eventually become and instead gained all his size back (ala 1974 olympia form) and continued to actually keep building from there? what if lou had also still competed? what if sergio had been allowed back? i still say arnold would reign supreme.
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10-11-2014, 09:13 PM #12Registered User
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Arnold.could have beaten everyone until Dorian
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10-11-2014, 09:39 PM #13.
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If Arnold focused 100% on bodybuilding and didn't go and conquer acting & politics he would have easily won IMO.
He was 23 when he won his first Olympia, ridiculous.
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10-12-2014, 12:06 AM #14do i have brotential
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Haney had a similar upper body and a better back and legs. And Arnold would have been getting well on in age by that point. He might still have won once or twice, though.Originally Posted by Ryanreece
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10-12-2014, 10:02 AM #15Registered User
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Arnold could never have resisted the lure of movie stardom. But even as a TV star in Hercules movies he would have made more money than with bodybuilding. So I don't think Arnold could have stayed in the sport for that long. BUT, in a parallel universe, if he'd retired 4 or 5 years later than he did, he could have won all those Olympias. Oh wait, in a parallel Universe, Sergio Oliva, Serge Nubret, Lou Ferrigno and Franco Columbo all continued to IMPROVE and compete up to 1980.
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10-12-2014, 11:02 AM #16Registered User
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There was a guy named Lee Haney that would have mopped the floor with Arnold.Originally Posted by Ryanreece
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10-12-2014, 11:04 AM #17Hiding in Honduras
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arnold for sure, but i still think franco should have won once
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10-12-2014, 11:10 AM #18Aaoooooooooo
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Maybe if Lou hadnt retired too he could beat Arnold at some point
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10-12-2014, 11:25 AM #19Registered User
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Trulyhuge starts posting againand a new account creates an arnold thread...hmm
hmmmmmmmmmmm"Kai's traps outsize him, when you compare them to the rest of his body, he's very very thick there, it makes him unbalanced." - Lee Thompson
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10-12-2014, 01:27 PM #20Registered User
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lolnopeOriginally Posted by trulyhuge1
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10-12-2014, 02:27 PM #21
Definitely.
From 1975 to 1980 only Sergio or Ferrigno had the size to beat Arnold. Zane and Mentzer were far too small and only placed highly because all the heavyweights had moved on.
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10-12-2014, 05:56 PM #22Registered User
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Do you even know who Haney is? lolOriginally Posted by Ryanreece
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10-12-2014, 06:16 PM #23Registered User
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Originally Posted by Ryanreece
and that wasnt even at his peak...
Lee Haney was at his best shape in 1988melbourne misc crew
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10-12-2014, 09:44 PM #24Registered User
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by the time Arnold would have gotten to Hany Arnold would have been WAY better IMO
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10-13-2014, 12:49 AM #25Transformation-Domination
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Originally Posted by kayvez
Arnold was much bigger than this in the early 70's, with a way more powerful structure.I
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10-13-2014, 02:04 AM #26Registered User
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Originally Posted by PaLftr
event tho I disagree with this but, Ronnie Coleman even said "Lee Haney was the greatest bodybuilder of all time"melbourne misc crew
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10-13-2014, 02:23 AM #27Registered User
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he also said Arnold was the greatest bodybuilder of all timeOriginally Posted by kayvez
event tho I disagree with this but, Ronnie Coleman even said "Lee Haney was the greatest bodybuilder of all time"
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10-13-2014, 04:26 AM #28Registered User
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Arnold did a lot for the sport is what was said. He said Lee was the greatest of all-time.Originally Posted by Ryanreece
I respect Lee but he is not my favorite. Some of you have to let it go. Arnold did his thing but c'mon.......now he is beating Lee Haney?
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10-13-2014, 06:38 AM #29Sexual Tyrannosaurus
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Haney's best obviously beats Arnold's best, but had Arnold continued BBing and improving every year? Would've been a battle.
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10-13-2014, 07:46 AM #30Registered User
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Respect your opinion.Originally Posted by Larfleeze
Haney had really no flaws in his physique. Arnold competed at a time where biceps and chest shots were bread and butter. Hell, he could disregard shots asked to hit (ala 1980) and hit his two best shots. Would not have happened in years when Haney competed. Haney was a lot more complete.
if he would have kept up his training.
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