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    Such an epic physique.
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    So how long was his offseason? Four years?

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    Originally Posted by flangmasterj View Post
    So how long was his offseason? Four years?

    I can't wait to see how he looks on stage.
    He last competed in 2009
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    Who is this guy....never heard of him.
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    Who is this guy....never heard of him.
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    Definitely an impressive physique. Silly to have natural next to it though. Not that it matters, but it does.
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    Originally Posted by TropicalSunset View Post
    Definitely an impressive physique. Silly to have natural next to it though. Not that it matters, but it does.
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    Originally Posted by TropicalSunset View Post
    Definitely an impressive physique. Silly to have natural next to it though. Not that it matters, but it does.
    Not the right thread for this debate.
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    Looks fantastic, but I hope he gets popped if he's training for the tour. Hard not to be skeptical.
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    Scepticism of his physique will always be present - but let's leave that for another day and just appreciate a human that can get down to this stupidity lean state.
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    It matters because he competes in a natty orgs, duh.
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    Originally Posted by 2276 View Post
    Scepticism of his physique will always be present - but let's leave that for another day and just appreciate a human that can get down to this stupidity lean state.
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    Originally Posted by letsthrive View Post
    Not the right thread for this debate.

    Just like natural isn't the right word for Doug Miller to align himself with.
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    Impressive physique but LOL at him being natural.
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    Amazing conditioning! What I find really funny is that some people even dare to think he is natural...
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    Those who have the mindset that Doug is natural will go further in their own training and body development efforts. When you close off your imagination to such things it then becomes impossible to make it reality.
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    Originally Posted by Amoney1986 View Post
    Those who have the mindset that Doug is natural will go further in their own training and body development efforts. When you close off your imagination to such things it then becomes impossible to make it reality.
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    His biceps in the BDB, how odd.
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    Night before the show.

    He looks good but that tan is a terrible colour
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    Originally Posted by stealth_swimmer View Post
    agreed

    How long has he been training, btw?
    Does it matter, that has to be one of the biggest myths in bodybuilding. Most nattys will make 90% of their gains in the first 2 years if they are doing everything reasonably close to "right" for their bodies. Continued training from that point is just going to be super super slow gains or maintainence of what they already have. Plus since test levels peak in the mid to late 20's for a natty, as you go past that your genetic limits get lower. The idea that oh this 40 year old man has been training 20 years, that's why he can look like that is total BS. Anything past 5 years unless your talking about a natural in his 20's still, is going to be past that persons peak. If they get big and lean at 25, starting training at 20, expecting them to make even more gains by 30 isn't likely to happen. They are going to look basically just the same, maybe a hair better, maybe a hair worse and it's def downhill from there.

    Anyways doug is about 190 on stage, but more peeled than 99% of the IFBB pro's at that weight too. Shawn Rhoden is like an inch taller, competes at 240 and isn't in the same condition. He's missing 40lbs or so of muscle compared to an IFBB pro for what that's worth to anyone. He certainly looks very big, very lean and has fantastic shape, regardless of how he gets there and you can't buy muscle bellies like that on any black market.. Least not yet, hehe.
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    I'm not going to vouch for Doug as once anybody gets to the point of looking like they lift, they COULD be not natty.

    What I will say is there is this guy that goes to my gym, early 20s and I've seen him a lot over the past few years and he has VERY similar insertions to Doug.

    His muscle bellies are STUPID round and his arms have to be pushing 18"+ at 5'7 (he's sub 8% year round too), same thing as Doug though, he's not wide and his waist isn't narrow, just his upper body insertions are INSANE. He looks like a mini Doug and I've seen him making the progress, slowly, but surely over the years, so I could see it being possible for him with another decade of training.

    Doug just seems to have a thick bone structure, coupled with a thick waist and amazing muscle insertions, looking at his size/shape relative to others, it's not blowing anyone out of the water here:



    I'm not saying whether HE is or isn't, but I do think it's possible for some people out there, given the right bone thickness and the proper insertions.
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