Victor Richards

[Jevyzzz]

is there any other IFBB pro with as much waisted potential as this guy victor richards? imagine if he had actually low carb dieted and competed, could he have beaten dorien yates?











literally defines the term hanging "mass" in my opinion

stats:

5'10 330lbs (360lbs off season)

what do u bros think?

[AdamantiumYoke]

U woke up at 4 O'Clock in the morning to post this ?

[Jevyzzz]

U woke up at 4 O'Clock in the morning to post this ?

u dont agree? victor richards is like shawn ray but HUGE

[AdamantiumYoke]

u dont agree? victor richards is like shawn ray but HUGE

He was big n strong but being an elite competitor a totally different game. Let me aware you

In words of Victor himself ,

 There then followed several years of Victor at various times saying he wouldn’t enter bodybuilding contests because he wouldn’t get a fair deal, which alternated with statements like, “In current bodybuilding I dislike the kamikaze attitude to get ripped at all costs. I don’t love bodybuilding enough to sacrifice my life for it. If these kamikaze guys are thought to be smart or intelligent, I’d rather be to be thought of as foolish.”

WHY VICTOR NEVER COMPETED(by Peter McGough)
 My own thought is that as big as he was Victor would have to diet and get cut up to do well in pro contests. And he just didn’t want to lose his mythical size or face the prospect of losing. I personally think dieted down his trouble spot would be his back, where his high lat insertions would have tor****ed his lat spread. I feel that the longer he stayed away from taking that first pro step the greater his apprehension grew. I think deep down he couldn’t face the prospect – shame to him – of losing. That’s why he never entered an NPC qualifier and instead took the path of entering the Nigerian Championships where he knew absolutely, totally, unquestionably, that he couldn’t lose. To be a winner you have to be prepared to lose, and Victor could never handle the risk of losing.
 The truth is even Victor didn’t know what lay under the excess tissue he was carrying; and he and the bodybuilding world never did find out. Viewed through the prism of time, 20 years after his hey-day, Victor Richards’ inability to soak up a loss was bodybuilding’s loss also.

[Jevyzzz]

his lats dont look 2 high 2 me i think he could of given yates a run 4 his money

[AdamantiumYoke]

his lats dont look 2 high 2 me i think he could of given yates a run 4 his money

I don't think so personally.There is no way we can know this... He never even wanted to diet down. He was a watery high fat big impressive guy for most of his career. Could have , would have , should have doesn't count.
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[Jevyzzz]

he wasnt THAT fat though, he could of lost a bit more body fat % and been stage ready quite easily i think





the world will never now

[BOUNTYHUNTERMK2]

Damn that waisted talent. Went all to his obliques.

[AdamantiumYoke]

Do you know he once asked the announcer at FIBO to introduce him as " Natural Uncrowned Olympia" ? with Dorian present there... Nevertheless Victor continued posing and afterward spoke of having overpowered Yates. Such was his conviction that he had overshadowed the Shadow he apologized to Yates for making him look bad. Victor was just about the only one who held that view and a bemused Yates just replied, “Oh, alright mate. Funny old world innit?” Like a TRUE champ . now that is

[endurancell]

Wut are u talking about he was mr O from '84 to '91

[Unbiasedfan]

Yates just replied, “Oh, alright mate. Funny old world innit?” Like a TRUE champ . now that is

source=?

[AdamantiumYoke]

source=?

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/n...velopment.html

[Jevyzzz]

Wut are u talking about he was mr O from '84 to '91

that was lee haney son

[Jevyzzz]

look at that squad sweep



i think he could even give coolman a run for his money

[stan_dias]

dude looks like a love child of oliva and kai

[xplicid01]

Ive read that his big deal was not wanting to take HGH and Slin. When they became essential is when he decided to leave the sport. Vic is definitely in the conversation for most freaky mass monster genetics. Richards and Dillet are the two from what I have heard could look at a weight and gain size, just ridiculously responders to hypertrophy

[Ikatsu]

Anyone who knocks on a guy for not competing is an insecure loser. Getting that low in body fat is unhealthy and takes a big toll on your body. You being unhappy with him doing his own thing and people thinking he could beat Dorian is your own insecurity. Peter Mcgough is a tiny man.

[Joao costa]

he was the best off season bodybuilder physic
very big but still clean

that's the truth


if he cut some weigth, he could be a contender.
but, in other way, he probably lost that monster freak look

[DanielEver]

Anyone who knocks on a guy for not competing is an insecure loser. Getting that low in body fat is unhealthy and takes a big toll on your body. You being unhappy with him doing his own thing and people thinking he could beat Dorian is your own insecurity. Peter Mcgough is a tiny man.

the problem isn't him staying out of competition, but rather saying how he's so much better than all other pros without doing what a pro bodybuilder definitely should — getting in contest shape and actually compete with other rivals

[Jevyzzz]

i think if he had stopped eating carbs then he could of got 2 like 3-4% body fat and won the mr O a few times

[flangmasterj]

i think if he had stopped eating carbs then he could of got 2 like 3-4% body fat and won the mr O a few times

Oh totally bruz.

[Jevyzzz]

Oh totally bruz.

could he of beaten coleman?

[rippedaspirer]

There is a lot of speculation about his back, him not giving a clean back shot, well here is one

[Glenn Gould]

By himself Vic look amazing...But here's what he was up against...



Haney had a habit of making his rivals look amateurish. He did it to Gary Strydom, Mike Christian and Lee Labrada. He would have done it to Vic as well. His back width was just too much for anyone to compete against. And Vic was not a wide guy.

[Larfleeze]

There is a lot of speculation about his back, him not giving a clean back shot, well here is one
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And that guy thought he could beat this..




He'd have looked like Strydom standing next to Haney

[Glenn Gould]

Damn it that Haney really made Strydom look like a sissy little girl. And Strydom was being hailed as the next Arnold!

[Glenn Gould]

Richards and Dillet are the two from what I have heard could look at a weight and gain size, just ridiculously responders to hypertrophy

You've heard wrong, Vic was incredibly muscular even as a boy. This was a born bodybuilder if there ever was one. Lifting weights obviously helped him break past the 300 pound limit.



15 years old in that pic.

[Jevyzzz]

You've heard wrong, Vic was incredibly muscular even as a boy. This was a born bodybuilder if there ever was one. Lifting weights obviously helped him break past the 300 pound limit.

wow, imagine having ganetics like that

i think his back was decent, but have never seen his RLS lat spread b4

[AdamantiumYoke]

And that guy thought he could beat this..




He'd have looked like Strydom standing next to Haney

THIS^
Dieting for a show and actually bringing balance (between mass n cond.) is a completely different sport in itself as opposed to being full n big whole year in offseason.

[Silvercock]

He was big n strong but being an elite competitor a totally different game. Let me aware you

In words of Victor himself ,

 There then followed several years of Victor at various times saying he wouldn’t enter bodybuilding contests because he wouldn’t get a fair deal, which alternated with statements like, “In current bodybuilding I dislike the kamikaze attitude to get ripped at all costs. I don’t love bodybuilding enough to sacrifice my life for it. If these kamikaze guys are thought to be smart or intelligent, I’d rather be to be thought of as foolish.”

WHY VICTOR NEVER COMPETED(by Peter McGough)
 My own thought is that as big as he was Victor would have to diet and get cut up to do well in pro contests. And he just didn’t want to lose his mythical size or face the prospect of losing. I personally think dieted down his trouble spot would be his back, where his high lat insertions would have tor****ed his lat spread. I feel that the longer he stayed away from taking that first pro step the greater his apprehension grew. I think deep down he couldn’t face the prospect – shame to him – of losing. That’s why he never entered an NPC qualifier and instead took the path of entering the Nigerian Championships where he knew absolutely, totally, unquestionably, that he couldn’t lose. To be a winner you have to be prepared to lose, and Victor could never handle the risk of losing.
 The truth is even Victor didn’t know what lay under the excess tissue he was carrying; and he and the bodybuilding world never did find out. Viewed through the prism of time, 20 years after his hey-day, Victor Richards’ inability to soak up a loss was bodybuilding’s loss also.

McGough is biased as fukc when it comes to Yates (with whom Vic would have competed against if he did decide to compete) but he is correct in this case, there are plenty of would-be-should-be Mr.O's: tank-top Mr.O, gym-shot Mr.O, 6 weeks-out Mr.O, silhouette Mr.O etc etc. but when they actually get into contest shape its a completely different story. Imagine if Dillet never got into contest shape but we saw a silhouette pic of him from a guest posing if he was in the condition equivalent to say several weeks out, there would be plenty of people spouting how he would destroy everyone on stage.