Ronnie Coleman versus Phil Heath

[littlekuehl]

Guys, help me settle a bet with a gym buddy. During their respective Olympia runs, who has the better physique: Big Ron or The Gift?

[tng83]

Negged

[jahaa]

Any of the 8 wins from Ronnie > Any showing from Phil.

No one can beat this.

[Larfleeze]

Any of the 8 wins from Ronnie > Any showing from Phil.

This. Total no contest, Ronnie crushes Phil.

[T3mpest]

This. Total no contest, Ronnie crushes Phil.

2011 Heath beats 2002 Ronnie. That's the only Ronnie that would lose to any version of Phil though, IMO.

[flangmasterj]

This. Total no contest, Ronnie crushes Phil.

Welllll I'd put Phil's 2011 showing over some of Ronnie's later showings and possibly over 2002.

Not a total no contest Mr Exagerrino.

[JanesLastResort]

I don't think phil's best could even come close to ron's worst, but that's just my opinion.

[flangmasterj]

I don't think phil's best could even come close to ron's worst, but that's just my opinion.

Come on guy? Couldn't even come close? Not even a chance?

[Unbiasedfan]

Lets just say phil would certainty give 02 ronnie much more of a fight than 02 levrone.

He might have also won some points in 01, but that would turn into a whole jay 01 vs phil 11 thread so better shut up.

Other than those, nah

[SammyJr]

"phil by a wide margin"

[Jonphinguyen7]

Phil is too small to compete with Ronnie. Plus, Big Ron has the conditioning to match.

[Larfleeze]

Welllll I'd put Phil's 2011 showing over some of Ronnie's later showings and possibly over 2002.

Not a total no contest Mr Exagerrino.

Yeah, you would.

No one but Ronnie beats any of Ron's wins, even Jay.

[RoroCwalker]

"wide margin" is an understatement.

Phil would be reduced to a molecular level.

[JanesLastResort]

Come on guy? Couldn't even come close? Not even a chance?

I see a 02 ron beating 2011 phil in every pose except for side tri. That's not "coming close" to me honestly!

[bazookasword]

You look at Jay, Phil, Dorian and so on and you think holy **** this might even be close to Ronnie level. But then you watch vids/pics of Ronnie, and nope not even a chance.

[Unbiasedfan]

2002 good quality footage. Levrone is wayyy ova tha line.

http://www.flexonline.com/videos/ifb...s-levrone-2002

Levrone looks epic in the side relaxed poses, in the upper body. Ronnie was definitely not his usual self.

[purdey]

I'd say Phil would probably get the win

But Ron clearly had the better physique

[lethalandcruel]

If you have seen Ronnie in person and on stage and Phil then you shouldn't even ask this question. Lmao

















Roniie wins

[Canuck77]

I don't think phil's best could even come close to ron's worst, but that's just my opinion.

This. Phil 2011 could maybe give RC 2002 a run but other than that...no contest(s) imo.

[Larfleeze]

This. Phil 2011 could maybe give RC 2002 a run but other than that...no contest(s) imo.

You'd think that Phil's best could maybe challenge Ron's worst, but what poses other than the ST would be actually win?

[Traumatech]

Ronnie would clearly be the best but Phil gets the title nom sayin

[BlackNumero]

Welllll I'd put Phil's 2011 showing over some of Ronnie's later showings and possibly over 2002.

Not a total no contest Mr Exagerrino.

I think this is a plausible scenario. I assume by later you mean either 2006 or 2007. 2007 Ronnie would obv lose to Phil.

IMO

98,99,00,03,04,05-Ronnie wins.

2001 and 2002 would be closer than what some people think.

Remember people, Ronnie lost prejudging in 2001 and finals in 2002, so hes not a golden god that was unbeatable those times.

I'd be interested in seeing picture comparisons. Unfortunately the lights in 2001 and 2002 (or the picture quality) are so much ****tier.

[flangmasterj]

"wide margin" is an understatement.

Phil would be reduced to a molecular level.

How would Kai stack up to Ron do you think?

[Problematique91]

How would Kai stack up to Ron do you think?

No better than Phil imo.

[RoroCwalker]

How would Kai stack up to Ron do you think?

It depends, he could stack up as good Phil or better for a few speculated reasons;

Phil's conditioning and height would hold up better with Ronnie than Kai would.

Kai's structure, size and thickness would hold up better with Ronnie than Phil's would.

The main points would be Kai's legs from the side and his back thickness.

[TheJizzle]

Negged

This

[TexasMajor]

OG Ron C is the GOAT.

Phil being inferior to Ron does not discredit Phil in any way, shape, or form.

[NZninja101]

I'd say Ronnie; not by a wide margin, but not barely either, but by a moderate margin.

[IngeKJ]

Any of Ronnies wins > Anyone ever

[weltweitefurcht]

I will catch heat for this but I think Phil's physique looks off with the way his clavicles are compared to his arms and chest. It doesn't strike me as Mr. Olympia material.. but definitely in other ways he does have what it takes (conditioning and full muscle bellies etc)..

Looking at Ronnie and his shoulder width and his proportions in general.. it is like a breath of fresh air. I think when compared with Ronnie, the flaws would become very apparent.

Just an opinion and I know many will disagree.