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    Question Supplements for belly fat burning and muscle growth?

    Hi,

    im new to all this supplement bollocks so have no idea where to start. I heard they can loose fat and also give muscle better growth rates??

    if so what are best and when to take them?

    normally i take just protein shakes 2-3 a day on days working out. Usually train 3 times a week but gains are verrryyy slow as expected obviously but since i stopped for 2 weeks the muscles seem to have came through more idk why.

    anyhow what supplements are best for fat loss/lean and building muscle mass??
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    Originally Posted by MatR95 View Post
    Hi,

    im new to all this supplement bollocks so have no idea where to start. I heard they can loose fat and also give muscle better growth rates??

    if so what are best and when to take them?

    normally i take just protein shakes 2-3 a day on days working out. Usually train 3 times a week but gains are verrryyy slow as expected obviously but since i stopped for 2 weeks the muscles seem to have came through more idk why.

    anyhow what supplements are best for fat loss/lean and building muscle mass??
    Supplements won't "lose fat" or "give muscle better growth rates," my friend. You'll want to increase your training frequency and get your diet in check. I'd suggest heading over to the nutrition section and checking out the stickies. Best of luck
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    Originally Posted by jbeuhdoe View Post
    Supplements won't "lose fat" or "give muscle better growth rates," my friend. You'll want to increase your training frequency and get your diet in check. I'd suggest heading over to the nutrition section and checking out the stickies. Best of luck
    My diet is pretty good.

    what do supplements like BCAA, thermogenic, testorone boosters and creatine monohydrate do then???
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    Originally Posted by MatR95 View Post
    My diet is pretty good.

    what do supplements like BCAA, thermogenic, testorone boosters and creatine monohydrate do then???
    Lighten your wallet
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    Originally Posted by MatR95 View Post
    My diet is pretty good.

    what do supplements like BCAA, thermogenic, testorone boosters and creatine monohydrate do then???
    Supplement a good diet or give a slightly edge (a little push on the right direction)

    However no supplement can supplement a bad diet.

    Losing fat comes from a caloric deficit and gaining muscles comes from a caloric surplus, so it's not possible to do both at the same time.

    Go to Nutrition section, read the stickies, calculate TDEE and macros, choose a goal and report back if you have any doubts
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    Originally Posted by MatR95 View Post
    Hi,

    im new to all this supplement bollocks so have no idea where to start. I heard they can loose fat and also give muscle better growth rates??

    if so what are best and when to take them?

    normally i take just protein shakes 2-3 a day on days working out. Usually train 3 times a week but gains are verrryyy slow as expected obviously but since i stopped for 2 weeks the muscles seem to have came through more idk why.

    anyhow what supplements are best for fat loss/lean and building muscle mass??
    Fat loss supplements mostly provide an energy boost with some appetite suppression. A user still needs to be in a calorie deficit. Most people can't lose fat and gain muscle at the same time naturally unless they are obese and/or new to training. If you don't fall into either of these, pick one goal and we can better help you out.

    These two sections are good to look at:
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    focus on a sound diet and nutrition. For losing weight, try and find your maintenance caloric intake and macronutrients and then slowly drop those calories. For bulking increase from your maintenance. Slightly increase calories so you don't gain fat too quickly.
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    Originally Posted by ecominetti View Post
    Supplement a good diet or give a slightly edge (a little push on the right direction)

    However no supplement can supplement a bad diet.

    Losing fat comes from a caloric deficit and gaining muscles comes from a caloric surplus, so it's not possible to do both at the same time.

    Go to Nutrition section, read the stickies, calculate TDEE and macros, choose a goal and report back if you have any doubts


    You are wrong.. Yes you can Cut and Bulk at the same time
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    Originally Posted by mysterylifter View Post
    Lighten your wallet
    This. So much this. Repped
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    Originally Posted by Shunn View Post
    You are wrong.. Yes you can Cut and Bulk at the same time
    Only during the first year of training (newbgains) after that you need to be in a calorie surplus to gain decent growth.
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    Originally Posted by Shunn View Post
    You are wrong.. Yes you can Cut and Bulk at the same time
    tell me more...
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    Originally Posted by Shunn View Post
    You are wrong.. Yes you can Cut and Bulk at the same time
    Oh, is that so...lol
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    Originally Posted by ecominetti View Post
    Supplement a good diet or give a slightly edge (a little push on the right direction)

    However no supplement can supplement a bad diet.

    Losing fat comes from a caloric deficit and gaining muscles comes from a caloric surplus, so it's not possible to do both at the same time.

    Go to Nutrition section, read the stickies, calculate TDEE and macros, choose a goal and report back if you have any doubts

    Then wouldn't it be wise to cut first???
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    Focus on your diet.
    No supplement will give you abs.

    Determine your maintenance calories (IIFYM.com)
    Determine your macros
    If you want to gain muscle then create a calorie surplus (Slowly add calories over time)and progress on your lifts on every workout. Try adding more weight, do more sets or reps, shorten your pauses between sets.
    If you want to lose weight then create a calorie deficit (Slowly reduce calories over time).

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    Originally Posted by MatR95 View Post
    Then wouldn't it be wise to cut first???
    For an obese/overweight individual, yes.

    For a skinny guy, no.

    Depends a lot on the body you have right now and where you want to go
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    Originally Posted by Shunn View Post
    You are wrong.. Yes you can Cut and Bulk at the same time
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    Oh, is that so...lol
    Maybe he is referring to body recomposition.
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    Originally Posted by eatyourspinach View Post
    Maybe he is referring to body recomposition.
    or he says this because OP is relatively new, so he would gain muscle either way, while losing bodyfat.
    Unless he's referring to 'celltech'
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    OP, your answer lies in nutrition, not supplementation. You've said your diet is "pretty good" -- that's a blazing red flag. For weight gain or loss, what you eat (or how "clean" you eat, whatever the hell that means) plays very little part in the process--it's how much you eat, as measured by calories, that determines everything.

    If you want to gain muscle mass -- eat more calories than you use, ideally in the 300-700 calories more range, as fewer stifles growth and more adds unnecessary fat.

    If you want to lose fat mass -- eat fewer calories than you use, ideally starting at the 300-700 calories fewer range, as fewer won't produce results and more will reduce compliance.

    As a novice trainee, you may find that moderate surpluses still result in some fat loss while moderate deficits still result in some muscle gain -- enjoy that while you have it!
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    Originally Posted by eatyourspinach View Post
    Maybe he is referring to body recomposition.
    Incredibly difficult for non-total newbs anyway..

    It'll be quicker and more effective to focus on one and then the other.
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