300 Grams of Protein per day?

[obrien7698]

I'm currently 190 lbs and 6 feet tall. I have read that .7 to 1.0 grams of protein per pound of body weight is optimal, and many think even 1.0 is too much. But I just read an article on men's fitness about cutting body fat to 7 percent, that suggests up to 300 grams per day on workout days? Can your body really utilize this much protein?

[nightanole]

Your body uses most of the protein for fuel, but it needs a large amount "present" in order to promote muscle growth. A pound of muscle is only 130grams of protein tops, and with god like muscle growth, you are talking 2lbs a month, so thats 260 grams, or about a days worth of protein according to your article. A small amount is use for repair (no you are not breaking down muscle into into unusable proteins that can never be reused, during exercise) but the rest is used as energy. So yea you can run just fine on 200 grams of carbs and 300 grams of protein, but it you would perform better (and much cheaper) on 200 grams of protein and 300 grams of carbs.

[Kronwall]

You're 190 lbs, you need about 150-190g of protein from lifting. Those extra 100 grams of protein will be stored as fat.

Dont read articles that you are unsure of being right, most of the time it is misleading and want you to buy their supps that do nothing.

[boo99]

I'm currently 190 lbs and 6 feet tall. I have read that .7 to 1.0 grams of protein per pound of body weight is optimal, and many think even 1.0 is too much. But I just read an article on men's fitness about cutting body fat to 7 percent, that suggests up to 300 grams per day on workout days? Can your body really utilize this much protein?

Unnecessarily high amount of protein , which is 100% fine if you like that much protein and can afford it.

Do they state any research that supports 300g of protein while cutting to 7%?

[TheLongRun]

Completely unnecessary. I get wanting to eat a little more protein on a cut for satiety reasons, but at 300g, you're just overeating protein at the expense of fat and/or carbs.

And yeah, I'm sure a significant portion of that protein would just get converted to glucose via gluconeogenesis.

[AFC96]

Dont believe everything you read on the magazine..

[havoc713]

You need .7-1 g per pound you weigh. That's about it. Anymore you can eat if you want, but if it goes over your daily maintenance, whatever isn't used a fuel will just be stored as fat.

If you have calories left over on a cut after getting in your 150-190 g of protein, I'd suggest carbs if you want to have some energy to get you through the day. Cutting without carbs can make you feel depressed and incredibly low energy.

[JohnSmeton]

if your serious about packing on muscle naturally or unnaturally 1.5 grams is about optimal (if you take bcaa's 5 grams bcaa= about 20 protein) It wasnt untill I upped protein 12- 13 years ago that I* surpassed 200 and well over it since. yes ive counted protein for about twleve years now traning from 250 - over 425 per day. expiremenet and see what works for you. If your just wanting to be an average Joe, with and decent muscls yeah 0.7-1 gram is most likely optimal for you

going futher, the article may have been referring to when you cut carbs, carbs are muscle sparing more carbs you can get away with less protein, low carbs I have tested it on myself using advanced equipment(a 7,000 in body machine, and I lost muscle when my carbs were 100-150 , fats were extremely low, and had to up protein and gained more muscle- that is an extreme case- for pre contest bodybuilding show)

1.5 grams is a good rule of thumb when training is intense and wanting to keep and grow muscle. when carbs are higher, since they are muscle sparing you could go down to a gram, a gram is about the least ill do, depending if im losing body-fat and then it may be higher everyone different , try different stuff, have an open mind, try it and see if you grow- if it works for you, you found your answer

for you , 250 looks about right to test out and experiment from there. of course training needs to be intense enough to achieve your physique goals

[necon76]

if your serious about packing on muscle naturally or unnaturally 1.5 grams is about optimal (if you take bcaa's 5 grams bcaa= about 20 protein) It wasnt untill I upped protein 12- 13 years ago that I* surpassed 200 and well over it since. yes ive counted protein for about twleve years now traning from 250 - over 425 per day. expiremenet and see what works for you. If your just wanting to be an average Joe, with and decent muscls yeah 0.7-1 gram is most likely optimal for you

going futher, the article may have been referring to when you cut carbs, carbs are muscle sparing more carbs you can get away with less protein, low carbs I have tested it on myself using advanced equipment(a 7,000 in body machine, and I lost muscle when my carbs were 100-150 , fats were extremely low, and had to up protein and gained more muscle- that is an extreme case- for pre contest bodybuilding show)

1.5 grams is a good rule of thumb when training is intense and wanting to keep and grow muscle. when carbs are higher, since they are muscle sparing you could go down to a gram, a gram is about the least ill do, depending if im losing body-fat and then it may be higher everyone different , try different stuff, have an open mind, try it and see if you grow- if it works for you, you found your answer

for you , 250 looks about right to test out and experiment from there. of course training needs to be intense enough to achieve your physique goals

Telling a 16 year old that he needs 300g of protein a day to gain muscle optimally....


WTF man.

[cumminslifter]

Dont believe everything you read on the magazine..

[magician27]

no your body wont use that much protein for protein synthesis. eating 150 grams vs 500 grams protein , you wont notice any difference in your gains , you will only feel the difference in your colon. you are free to experiment.

[ErikTheElectric]

I'm currently 190 lbs and 6 feet tall. I have read that .7 to 1.0 grams of protein per pound of body weight is optimal, and many think even 1.0 is too much. But I just read an article on men's fitness about cutting body fat to 7 percent, that suggests up to 300 grams per day on workout days? Can your body really utilize this much protein?

... This is where you went wrong.

[determined4000]

Age= 16
stop counting cals and fuel your body
focus on eating balanced meals with protein, fat and carbs and stop trying to count and be exact about things
And stop reading those stupid magazines

[sphexius]

Def. to much protein

[Gen1GT]

You're 190 lbs, you need about 150-190g of protein from lifting. Those extra 100 grams of protein will be stored as fat.

That's incorrect actually. Recent research has shown gluconeogenesis and excretion of excess nitrogen uses nearly as much energy as the value of the excess protein. If all of the 4 calories of energy in 1g protein could be converted directly to glucose at 100% efficiency, you would still only gain fat if you were in a caloric surplus. Have a look at the recent research here:

http://www.jissn.com/content/11/1/19

The only downside I can think of to "excess" protein is cost, but if you gain it in the form of whey powder, it's fairly inexpensive nutrition. Protein is highly thermogenic, it provides satiety, it's muscle sparing, promotes MPS, etc.

[germaine07]

That's incorrect actually. Recent research has shown gluconeogenesis and excretion of excess nitrogen uses nearly as much energy as the value of the excess protein. If all of the 4 calories of energy in 1g protein could be converted directly to glucose at 100% efficiency, you would still only gain fat if you were in a caloric surplus. Have a look at the recent research here:

http://www.jissn.com/content/11/1/19

The only downside I can think of to "excess" protein is cost, but if you gain it in the form of whey powder, it's fairly inexpensive nutrition. Protein is highly thermogenic, it provides satiety, it's muscle sparing, promotes MPS, etc.

Was going to post this ^

[nightanole]

IM too dumb to even understand that study...

Have you looked at the dat tables? control group ate 2000 cals +-500 cals, and the high protein group ate 2800 cals +-850 cals. I cant even read the exercise volume because the variance is more than the mean, i assume they wrote the table it based on work and non work days.