can't gain weight but have a high protein and calorie intake

[conorkillian]

hey guys, i have been lifting strong now for the last 3 months,6 days a week 2 hours a day.I eat on average 300 grams of protein a day and over 5500 calories a day,and am takeing about 10 gs of creatine a day and i have only lost weight. i can see some results in my physic since starting obviously as i hadn't even a 2 pack. has any 1 else ever experienced this? or does any1 know how i can put on more weight. feedback much appreciated

[WonderPug]

You're 16 years old.

Please ask your parents for help.

[conorkillian]

You're 16 years old.

Please ask your parents for help.

well,whats that supposed to mean?

[gbullock32]

First off, 10g of creatine is more than you need; 3-5g a day is the recommended intake. This does not apply to you though since supplements are not recommended for those under 18.

Other than that, if you are honestly taking 5k+ calories a day and not gaining weight you should see a doctor, unless you are insanely active than something is wrong. Furthermore that's way more protein than you need- 130g would be well more than adequate for you.


To be blunt- you are likely counting wrong and are eating far less than what you think.

[WonderPug]

well,whats that supposed to mean?

It means you should discuss potential health issues with your parents, not random souls on a bodybuilding forum.

[conorkillian]

thanks for the advice guys. no im deffenatly not counting wrong. i eat about 6 eggs a day,cup of oatmeal, 2-3 liters of whole milk a day, 3 shakes with 2 scoops in each, 300 gramms of chicken a day,tin of tuna or 2, and a large dinner.im counting everything from the labels. every1 in my family is super thin as we all have a very fast metabolism. the creatine mono i take sais not for people under the age of 16 and sais ,take 5gs 1-4 times a day.

[Mrpb]

As Wonderpug says you should be asking your parents for food.

That being said, consuming more than double your body weight in protein is insane and will make it very hard to gain weight.

130 is more than enough, eat more carbs instead and you'll gain weight, assuming you eat enough calories.

[ironwill2008]

hey guys, i have been lifting strong now for the last 3 months,6 days a week 2 hours a day.I eat on average 300 grams of protein a day and over 5500 calories a day,and am takeing about 10 gs of creatine a day and i have only lost weight. i can see some results in my physic since starting obviously as i hadn't even a 2 pack. has any 1 else ever experienced this? or does any1 know how i can put on more weight. feedback much appreciated

Ask your mom to cook more food for you.

At each meal, clear your plate and then ask for seconds. After you eat that much, if you can stuff another plateful down your pie hole, ask for thirds.


At your age, that's as complicated as it need be.




And stay away from supplements. Other than maybe a multi-vitamin as directed by your parents, supps are not for minors.

[conorkillian]

thanks again for all your advice.. yes my parents are well aware of my diet as its costing more than double in groceries each week haha

[AFC96]

I doubt you actually eat 5500 calories. Are you tracking it properly?

[conorkillian]

I doubt you actually eat 5500 calories. Are you tracking it properly?

yea i write down everything in a copybook after every meal. I get most of my calories from the 2-3 liters of whole milk i drink each day

[bretfarve24]

try cutting the protein down a bit and eating more carbs and fats
peanut butter is pretty useful in weight gain
maybe broscience idk

[conorkillian]

heres my highest intake day for protein ever. kls were average=

meal 1 8.45.. 3egg+3slices of bread french toast with 2 eggs on top+500ml of whole milk=77gs of p.1210 kls
meal 2 9.30-10.30... 100 grams of almonds whole= 21gs of p.612kls
meal 3 11.30... 50 gs of protein+5gs of creatine+300ml of milk=47gs of p.362kls
meal 4 13.30-15.00...100 grams of almonds whole= 21gs of p.612kls
meal 5 15.10... 200gs of chicken in sweet and sour sauce with 2 nests of egg noodles+500mls of milk=85gs of p.1162kls
meal 6 17.30.... 600mls of milk=18gs of p.338 kls
meal 7 19.00....50 gs of protein+5gs of creatine+300ml of milk+30gs of oats=50gs of p.520kls
meal 8 20.15... 180gs of chicken+30gs of brocoli+pint of milk=61gs of p.410 kls
meal 9 22.00....500gs of low fat yogort 19gs of p.320kls

totals kls=5546
total grams of protein=399

again my average kls would be 5500 and protein 300 not usually that high

[Mrpb]

Three people have told you you eat way too much protein. Is that sinking in?

[conorkillian]

Three people have told you you eat way too much protein. Is that sinking in?

i no i have already changed my diet print out to accomidate for only 200gs now. can't really go back in the past 4 days ago and eat less protein to be honest if i could i wouldnt have eaten that sweet and sour because i was farting like a gale force wind for 2 days after

[Mrpb]

i no i have already changed my diet print out to accomidate for only 200gs now. can't really go back in the past 4 days ago and eat less protein to be honest if i could i wouldnt have eaten that sweet and sour because i was farting like a gale force wind for 2 days after

OK good I wasn't sure if you were paying attention but it's good to know you are.

Another thing I would change is your meal frequency. 9 meals is way more than you need. 4-5 seems to be about optimal. See here for example: http://www.simplyshredded.com/the-tr...t-protein.html

And include generous portions of vegetables and some fruit in your diet.

[conorkillian]

OK good I wasn't sure if you were paying attention but it's good to know you are.

Another thing I would change is your meal frequency. 9 meals is way more than you need. 4-5 seems to be about optimal. See here for example: []/the-truth-about-protein.html[/]

And include generous portions of vegetables and some fruit in your diet.

thanks for the advice.. i think a complete redo of my diet is in store.. however i find that when i eat the same amount of food in 3-4 meals i have the foulest smellies ever as opposed to the 9 meals which is practically unnoticeable ha

thanks again for the reply.. repped

[SuperHippo]

As Wonderpug says you should be asking your parents for food.

That being said, consuming more than double your body weight in protein is insane and will make it very hard to gain weight.

130 is more than enough, eat more carbs instead and you'll gain weight, assuming you eat enough calories.

im curious as to why eating double his body weight would hinder weight gain if he is truly eating 5000+ calories?

[Mrpb]

im curious as to why eating double his body weight would hinder weight gain if he is truly eating 5000+ calories?

That's a big 'if'

In the hypothetical case that he isn't counting his calories accurately (which I think is possible) consuming super high protein is giving super high satiety, which would make it harder to reach surplus.

If we ignore the big 'if' for a moment, the high TEF probably wouldn't be helpful for gaining weight either.

[conorkillian]

That's a big 'if'

In the hypothetical case that he isn't counting his calories accurately (which I think is possible) consuming super high protein is giving super high satiety, which would make it harder to reach surplus.

If we ignore the big 'if' for a moment, the high TEF probably wouldn't be helpful for gaining weight either.

gonna make a pic log tomorrow of a typical meal i would have with the 5500 kls just to put that if out of your mind

[Mrpb]

gonna make a pic log tomorrow of a typical meal i would have with the 5500 kls just to put that if out of your mind

How do you measure your food?

[WonderPug]

heres my highest intake day for protein ever. kls were average=

meal 1 8.45.. 3egg+3slices of bread french toast with 2 eggs on top+500ml of whole milk=77gs of p.1210 kls
meal 2 9.30-10.30... 100 grams of almonds whole= 21gs of p.612kls
meal 3 11.30... 50 gs of protein+5gs of creatine+300ml of milk=47gs of p.362kls
meal 4 13.30-15.00...100 grams of almonds whole= 21gs of p.612kls
meal 5 15.10... 200gs of chicken in sweet and sour sauce with 2 nests of egg noodles+500mls of milk=85gs of p.1162kls
meal 6 17.30.... 600mls of milk=18gs of p.338 kls
meal 7 19.00....50 gs of protein+5gs of creatine+300ml of milk+30gs of oats=50gs of p.520kls
meal 8 20.15... 180gs of chicken+30gs of brocoli+pint of milk=61gs of p.410 kls
meal 9 22.00....500gs of low fat yogort 19gs of p.320kls

totals kls=5546
total grams of protein=399

again my average kls would be 5500 and protein 300 not usually that high

Wow, what an astonishingly poor diet and obscene meal frequency.

Can you ask your parents to take you to a physician or at least a RD for help?

[Tomohawk92]

1. youre not actually eeating that much
2. ur not eating that much
3. you do that once every few days and your body just shakes it off

[tHEwILLtObE]

thanks for the advice.. i think a complete redo of my diet is in store.. however i find that when i eat the same amount of food in 3-4 meals i have the foulest smellies ever as opposed to the 9 meals which is practically unnoticeable ha

thanks again for the reply.. repped

I think that the advice you have been given is pretty good. Invest in some more oats, rice and starchy vegetables for carbs which can be quite cheap and keep lots of the fat you are already eating. Protein is very overrated and I usually keep it a baseline of 1 gram per pound of LBM or BW if I want to increase it. For somebody that is still growing as is 200 grams will not hurt and is still more than enough.

[conorkillian]

I think that the advice you have been given is pretty good. Invest in some more oats, rice and starchy vegetables for carbs which can be quite cheap and keep lots of the fat you are already eating. Protein is very overrated and I usually keep it a baseline of 1 gram per pound of LBM or BW if I want to increase it. For somebody that is still growing as is 200 grams will not hurt and is still more than enough.

thanks for the good advice and feed back.. unlike some other users cough*wounderpug..cough cough*tomohawk92

[mjf100215]

thanks for the good advice and feed back.. unlike some other users cough*wounderpug..cough cough*tomohawk92

You ask for advice. You get quality advice. Some of the sources of that advice is from some of the more respected members here. You have no idea what you're doing and came for advice and now bust on them for trying to help get through your thick skull?

[conorkillian]

You ask for advice. You get quality advice. Some of the sources of that advice is from some of the more respected members here. You have no idea what you're doing and came for advice and now bust on them for trying to help get through your thick skull?

telling me that im lying or that im not eating that amount of food on daily basis when there living on the other side of the world is not advice.i respected and thanked those who gave me positive feedback or good advice.if you actually bothered to read the thread in its entirety you'd see that i have taken most of the good advice i have been given on board.such as taking only 5 gs of creatine,lowering my protein intake,increasing my carbs.so don't go around saying i have a thick skull when your too lazy to read the whole thread.again if you read up the comments that i "busted on" you will see that they were not advice ,they were just negative feedback or insults.so how about you cop on?

[conorkillian]

You ask for advice. You get quality advice. Some of the sources of that advice is from some of the more respected members here. You have no idea what you're doing and came for advice and now bust on them for trying to help get through your thick skull?

and giving me negative rep telling me to "just go away" doesn't help .as you said your self i came here for advice so why would i "go away"? how about you get your facts straight before you go around dissing me? let me guess this is what your thinking " stupid kid doesn't know anything, im older than him meaning im better then him , ha negative repped him for no reason, damn im such a hard man" well i don't know if you know this but you were my age aswell so it looks like your the one with the "thick skull" learn to read threads FULLY dumb***

[AFC96]

Red gonna stay red.

[MetilHed]

telling me that im lying or that im not eating that amount of food on daily basis when there living on the other side of the world is not advice.i respected and thanked those who gave me positive feedback or good advice.if you actually bothered to read the thread in its entirety you'd see that i have taken most of the good advice i have been given on board.such as taking only 5 gs of creatine,lowering my protein intake,increasing my carbs.so don't go around saying i have a thick skull when your too lazy to read the whole thread.again if you read up the comments that i "busted on" you will see that they were not advice ,they were just negative feedback or insults.so how about you cop on?

So, how much were you eating before you started losing on 5500 cal/day ? You know, when you were maintaining ?