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    Creatine Question

    I am currently looking to cut some extra belly fat... (about 10-15 lbs) but also add mass at the same time... I'm a big guy and kinda scrawny.

    I'm on a good diet plan (when I'm disciplined enough to stay on it) and take EpiBurn Pro as a replacement Thermo for the OxyElite Pro, also have pre workout and protein for post...

    I am looking to purchase the CON-CRETE creatine as a boost to getting bigger, but I am wondering if i will be wasting my money as I know there is no true way to "convert fat into muscle"

    Should I hold off on the gains until I lose first or can these go hand in hand?
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    Pick 1 goal and stick to it. Gaining mass = caloric surplus, losing fat = deficit. You can take creatine both on a cut or a bulk, though.
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    Originally Posted by EPolis13 View Post
    Pick 1 goal and stick to it. Gaining mass = caloric surplus, losing fat = deficit. You can take creatine both on a cut or a bulk, though.
    so focus on the weight loss and still do resistance training but let that come natural...
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    creatine will not hold weight...focus on ur diet (consistent) and add some resistance training to speed things up.
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    When starting out it's best to just focus on improving gym performance and nailing down where your diet needs to be. I know it's tough starting out skinny fat and just wanting to be leaner but also stronger. You'll be way better off for it in the long run if you just work on nailing down the fundamentals, I know from personal experience.

    Also Creatine Mono is all you need to grab, it's cheap and well-studied.
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    Originally Posted by EPolis13 View Post
    Pick 1 goal and stick to it. Gaining mass = caloric surplus, losing fat = deficit. You can take creatine both on a cut or a bulk, though.
    Couldn't have said it better, The Diet is key. Creatine and all the other supplement are accessories to help but, rely on training and food
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    As everyone's saying, you'll get much faster and more satisfying results focusing on one task at a time. You certainly can recomp to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time, but it's agonizingly slow and best-suited for when you're already relatively close to your composition goals. We're not talking "half as fast" or "a third as fast," either; you can accomplish more overall change to your body in a few months of well-executed bulk/cut cycles than you can in a few years of otherwise-undirected recomp.

    As for creatine, it's a great supplement choice regardless of your current goals. Properly dosed and tolerated, any weight that it puts on is intracellular water weight -- more specifically, water sucked into your muscles. This is a very good thing, not only because it's part of how creatine exerts its little boost in endurance, but also because more water in the muscles means bigger-looking muscles -- it's the kind of weight you want! The complaints of 'bloat' usually come from people following unnecessary dosing protocols (e.g. the 20-25g "loading" phase that's still strangely recommended by most products) or the rare breed that can't tolerate certain forms (usually monohydrate) very well.
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    Originally Posted by EPolis13 View Post
    Pick 1 goal and stick to it. Gaining mass = caloric surplus, losing fat = deficit. You can take creatine both on a cut or a bulk, though.
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    If you want to save money, go for creapure creatine, the most effective creatine out there. 5g any time during the day. A trusted creatine monohydrate is all you need to make gains.
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    Originally Posted by EPolis13 View Post
    Pick 1 goal and stick to it. Gaining mass = caloric surplus, losing fat = deficit. You can take creatine both on a cut or a bulk, though.
    This is 100% Spot on
    3-5g of creatine
    no cycling/loading necessary
    dose it anytime.
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    Thank you everyone for your help! I appreciate it all... I will stick to my current goals and work on my discipline first as I know it is all for not if i can't keep away from the crap foods!

    Thank you again!
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    Originally Posted by Gboehl View Post
    I am currently looking to cut some extra belly fat... (about 10-15 lbs) but also add mass at the same time... I'm a big guy and kinda scrawny.

    I'm on a good diet plan (when I'm disciplined enough to stay on it) and take EpiBurn Pro as a replacement Thermo for the OxyElite Pro, also have pre workout and protein for post...

    I am looking to purchase the CON-CRETE creatine as a boost to getting bigger, but I am wondering if i will be wasting my money as I know there is no true way to "convert fat into muscle"

    Should I hold off on the gains until I lose first or can these go hand in hand?
    Creatine is good at any stage of fitness, whether bulk or cut.
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    Take creatine monohydrate daily at 3-5 grams. It suits any goal whether gaining muscle or cutting fat.
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    Seriously just focus on your diet. Creatine wont hold water or bload you up like you think. If youre not in the last weeks of contest prep you wont even notice it.
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    So after researching here yesterday, and thinking on the Epiburn I've been taking i wanted something with better results..

    I searched and searched and it seems to me that Alphamine is the way to go for a themogenic... it will be here next week can't wait to review it
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    Originally Posted by Gboehl View Post
    So after researching here yesterday, and thinking on the Epiburn I've been taking i wanted something with better results..

    I searched and searched and it seems to me that Alphamine is the way to go for a themogenic... it will be here next week can't wait to review it
    your thermo could be a major reason why you felt bad, or had a bad reaction. I have seen it first hand to a person who takes too much of a burner/thermo and it backfires on them.
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