phosphatidic acid

[Danes]

If PA is necessary for activation of mTOR, then it is required; 'not being sufficient' means PA isnt the only thing that is required.

But who, anywhere, claimed that PA is the only thing that is required to activate mTOR? No-one is ingesting this stuff without eating foods, and breathing, and drinking fluids, so...??

And as far as I know PA is a normal part of cellular activity whether you supp with it or not; supping with it takes advantage of this (by grossly oversaturating an already naturally occurring system). I dont see how the quote impacts negatively on our goals here at all.

Totaly agree

[NewAgeMayan]

Dropped 6 caps OG King fasted prewo earlier, no stomach issues. Might do same dosing for the next 2 or so days to see if doubling up on this product makes a significant difference for me.

thanks

[Vanitouses]

Does it make any difference if you chew the granules or swallow them? What about putting them in your pwo shake?

[Danes]

Does it make any difference if you chew the granules or swallow them? What about putting them in your pwo shake?

Its the same

[ShoooterMcGavin]

Does it make any difference if you chew the granules or swallow them? What about putting them in your pwo shake?

chew or swallow, they are going to the same place

doesnt matter

[jeffie28]

Dropped 6 caps OG King fasted prewo earlier, no stomach issues. Might do same dosing for the next 2 or so days to see if doubling up on this product makes a significant difference for me.

thanks

Did you notice any difference if doubling the og king?

[NewAgeMayan]

Did you notice any difference if doubling the og king?

I put up a few extra reps here and there, but Im hesitant at this stage to attribute that to the extra dosage. I'll see how things go over the next few days.

[head2]

my mass order of fearn came in today. was kinda surprised by the size of the granules to be honest...idk i was expecting them to be bigger for whatever reason.haha

will start dosing pre-workout with them next week. been dosing 4 caps of OG king this week (1g PA). Thinking I might try 3 caps King and a Tablespoon of Soy lecithin, or 4 caps and a tablespoon. Idk will think about it. any suggestions or thoughts for me on that aspectt

btw im 6-1 210-211lbs if that helps

[NewAgeMayan]

In theory the soy-l might improve the absorption of the King caps, so maybe just start with 3caps/1tbsp?


Then again, if I had some soy-l come in Id prolly wanna dose the fuk outta it and flag the King for a while...*shrug*

Maybe just aim for around 1-1.5gm PA, and hit that however you see fit. You can obviously always adjust as you go along. And, possibly, the more you have of the soy-l making up your dosing ratio, the more likely youll experience acute effects.

[jtyler30]

This whole thing seems ridiculous but I don't see how I can't try it. I'm in, just ordered some Fearn.

[ZeroInitiativE]

This whole thing seems ridiculous but I don't see how I can't try it. I'm in, just ordered some Fearn.

That's how I felt and I did the same thing you did lol

Gonna try 2 tbsp with my protein shake I usually have an hour or so before I work out

[TheFugitive]

Dropped 6 caps OG King fasted prewo earlier, no stomach issues. Might do same dosing for the next 2 or so days to see if doubling up on this product makes a significant difference for me.

thanks

6 caps

[NewAgeMayan]

6 caps

[img]http://www.kapselwelt.de/shop_cfg/norbert54/Gelatinekapseln_schwarz.jpg[img]

Yeah...I know, heh.

Id hate to start soy-l and get a significant strength boost and feel like I didnt give King a decent shot itself (my strength progression on King has been better than it wouldve been without it, but not as much as something like amentoflavone <which I too had to run at a slightly higher dose than label directions>)

[MuscleUpCrohns]

Yeah...I know, heh.

Id hate to start soy-l and get a significant strength boost and feel like I didnt give King a decent shot itself (my strength progression on King has been better than it wouldve been without it, but not as much as something like amentoflavone <which I too had to run at a slightly higher dose than label directions>)

Not to derail this behemoth of a thread, but what dose did you find worked best with amentoflavone? I have 4 bottles left of AmentoMax, and I haven't tried anything except the standard dose so far.

[TheFugitive]

Yeah...I know, heh.

Id hate to start soy-l and get a significant strength boost and feel like I didnt give King a decent shot itself (my strength progression on King has been better than it wouldve been without it, but not as much as something like amentoflavone <which I too had to run at a slightly higher dose than label directions>)

Amentoflavone is decent, PA has so many more benefits. Keep me posted on your 6 cap results

[NewAgeMayan]

Not to derail this behemoth of a thread, but what dose did you find worked best with amentoflavone? I have 4 bottles left of AmentoMax, and I haven't tried anything except the standard dose so far.

When I started my run, I wanted a strength increase right off the bat. So, before I started my run proper I experimented to find what dose gave me acute strength increases...3 caps (I purposefully did this during an overreach period as well, so the increases were definitely genuine). I didnt bother going higher than this. So I ran 3 caps per day for just under a week, then dropped back to 2 caps per day.

[MuscleUpCrohns]

When I started my run, I wanted a strength increase right off the bat. So, before I started my run proper I experimented to find what dose gave me acute strength increases...3 caps (I purposefully did this during an overreach period as well, so the increases were definitely genuine). I didnt bother going higher than this. So I ran 3 caps per day for just under a week, then dropped back to 2 caps per day.

Did you notice a drop-off when you dialed the dose back from 3 caps to 2? I suppose I'll give 3 caps a try, see how it works compared to 2, and if it's worth the extra $. Turns out I have 5 bottles left, not 4, so I have plenty of pills to play with.

[hamdysayed]

Did you notice a drop-off when you dialed the dose back from 3 caps to 2? I suppose I'll give 3 caps a try, see how it works compared to 2, and if it's worth the extra $. Turns out I have 5 bottles left, not 4, so I have plenty of pills to play with.

how lucky, it's still out of stock.

[NewAgeMayan]

Did you notice a drop-off when you dialed the dose back from 3 caps to 2? I suppose I'll give 3 caps a try, see how it works compared to 2, and if it's worth the extra $. Turns out I have 5 bottles left, not 4, so I have plenty of pills to play with.

No, no drop off. I found things had levelled out somewhat by then, anyway (keep in mind, though, that I run fullbody everyday, so even though its only 6 days of dosing it is still 6 arm/chest/tri/etc workouts...just to give my experience some more context).

[MuscleUpCrohns]

how lucky, it's still out of stock.

I bought 6 bottles before ever even trying it. It ended up being out of stock just about the next day. Good decision on my part, I suppose.

I also picked up the last can of Fearn lecithin granules from a local supplement store a few days ago. Lucky me.

[TheFugitive]

I bought 6 bottles before ever even trying it. It ended up being out of stock just about the next day. Good decision on my part, I suppose.

I also picked up the last can of Fearn lecithin granules from a local supplement store a few days ago. Lucky me.

You got a nice supply of PA

[MuscleUpCrohns]

You got a nice supply of PA

What can I say? I'm like a prepper, except instead of stockpiling bland food with a shelf-life of a few decades, I hoard HMB-FA, PA, and amentoflavone. Still, there are a few people here who have stashes that dwarf mine. I'll have to fix that soon and buy more.

It's been a good year for supplements, I'd say. I'd love to give ARA a run, but due to my medical history of inflammation, I'm not going to take the chance on it.

I wonder what Fearn is thinking with all of these sales recently?

[kbayne]

Amentoflavone is decent, PA has so many more benefits. Keep me posted on your 6 cap results

Decent? Lol.

[NewAgeMayan]

Hey Dann did you hear back from Fearn?

[TheFugitive]

What can I say? I'm like a prepper, except instead of stockpiling bland food with a shelf-life of a few decades, I hoard HMB-FA, PA, and amentoflavone. Still, there are a few people here who have stashes that dwarf mine. I'll have to fix that soon and buy more.

It's been a good year for supplements, I'd say. I'd love to give ARA a run, but due to my medical history of inflammation, I'm not going to take the chance on it.

I wonder what Fearn is thinking with all of these sales recently?

I have to avoid ArA myself due to a few shoulder surgeries, inflammation is bad for lifters

Decent? Lol.

Yep, decent for endurance. I still feel PA is on another level

[DannPM]

Hey Dann did you hear back from Fearn?

I emailed and they gave a generic response apologizing for the temporary shortage. The emails just hit customer service so I don't know if it ever got passed on. We gave them their heads up, it's fair game now ha!

[BlueRev]

I have to avid ArA myself due to a few shoulder surgeries, inflammation is bad for lifters

Yep, decent for endurance. I still feel PA is on another level

I got the ArA flu haha was hell

[TheFugitive]

I got the ArA flu haha was hell

Feel better bud

[changemyoil66]

Im afraid to run ARA due to possible joint issues also.

When AM comes in stock, Ill try 3 caps. I did notice a drop off. Less focus and energy about a week after running out.

[MarcelinoChiles]

I don't ever take ara thats what I don't want is joint issues