Aussie defence force soldier assaulted in Sydney

[GableGrip]

But we've had the first set of laws put through the senate this morning, so even if it all comes out as bullcrap to get bogans hot under the collar, the point is served.

Now ASIO have sweeping powers to monitor online communication without warrants (remember when we were pushing back against metadata being retained? Now we have laws which make that seem child's play so that puts an end to that), and journalists now cannot report on matters of national security, including any abuses and overreaches of power. Press freedom has been gutted, not that anyone cares, because people with beards. You cannot go certain places, even on a holiday, without breaking the law and that list will expand in the coming months. Extra funding for ASIO - some $630m. More than half a billion dollars (this was approved in July).

Aussies were played like fiddles here. Meanwhile, Abbott still can't get his budget passed.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-2...senate/5770256

None of this is coincidence.

[Prosarian]

You're just reiterating my point.

You stand behind the presupposition that all cultures are equal, and that therefore this should be handled quietly behind the scenes and that, above all, it should be indiscriminate. That we should ignore the overwhelming disproportionate representation of Islam in such acts, and close our mouths on the topic of Islam under the guise of the failed state of multiculturalism.

I'm sorry, but the precedent has already been set, and your naive mentality and short-sighted solution is exactly what lead to the disgusting success of Pakistani Muslim Child Grooming gangs, and the subversive success of the Trojan Horse scandal.

The very real reality is that as the Islamic demographic grows, so too does contrarian element that rubs back against the status quo and it is only natural for tensions on both sides to ride.

Multiculturalism has failed us all. Muslims included. The clash of civilizations was always the inevitable product.

Hardly. The mindset that led to that success was wilful ignorance in service of political correctness, essentially treating people differently because of their beliefs. If it was indiscriminate, then these people would be in prison. I don't pretend that all cultures are the same or equal at all.

There is no reason to believe that islamic culture is more violent than any other. Terrorist attacks by muslims have more to do with political rather than religious reasons. Mainly to motivate democratic states to remove their forces from majority Muslim countries. Robert Pape of the university of Chicago found this conclusion to be true, in a study funded by the department of defence under donald rumsfeld of all people. Check it up of you're skeptical

[gabbaking]

should not wear the uniform in public if not working. same applies to cop, nurses and firies. Too many haters out there.

[AllFiredUp1]

Hardly. The mindset that led to that success was wilful ignorance in service of political correctness, essentially treating people differently because of their beliefs. If it was indiscriminate, then these people would be in prison. I don't pretend that all cultures are the same or equal at all.

There is no reason to believe that islamic culture is more violent than any other. Terrorist attacks by muslims have more to do with political rather than religious reasons. Mainly to motivate democratic states to remove their forces from majority Muslim countries. Robert Pape of the university of Chicago found this conclusion to be true, in a study funded by the department of defence under donald rumsfeld of all people. Check it up of you're skeptical

This is the exact type of stupidity I'm talking about.

No reason to believe that Islamic culture is more violent than any other? You used an extremely recent contemporary study to validate your point, and decided it conclusive.

The al-Babbi school of thought that eventually lead to the Mousellini, Third-Reich style drive for emancipation through death, i.e - the art of death, that was popularized through the Muslim Brotherhood movement, predates Western intervention to the Middle East. Further, it is not and never was an original concept, and has historical and doctrinal precedents all the way back to the time of Muhammad.

The Islamic conquests that eradicated numerous cultures and peoples from areas of Arabia are generally described best in contemporary analyses as 'by the sword' and are the origins of practical Jihad. When there has been no common enemy, or the common enemy has been beaten into submission until it no longer exists, sectarianism has generally permeated the land. Christianity, a religion that has undergone its own reform and revolution in thought unlike Islam, has shrunk to a representation of roughly 4% of the Middle East and North Africa in the face of Islamic totalitarianism.

The very idea that there is 'no reason to believe' that Islam is any more violent, today, than other religions is absolute hogwosh. I'd almost be tempted to call it a lie, as I don't believe you can possibly actually believe that premise.

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[AllFiredUp1]

I can't edit that post for some reason, this is the picture I tried to post.

[gabbaking]

Get it in it ya

[StayWithMe]

Why do Aussies still have the British flag on their flag? So beta. Alpha Kiwis are getting rid of it I heard.

[laffytaffy]

This really pisses me off. Australia is one of the most multicultural countries in the world, nearly anyone can come here and still keep their culture/religion and have that respected. But when you come here and can't show us the same respect we show you, you don't deserve to live here. If you want to bring violence into our peaceful country you can **** off.

the problem is even with this straight forward post from you muslims and alot of aussies would still argue your point lol such a fuking joke mate!