Ronnie Coleman [1999 Mr Olympia] vs Phil Heath [Arnold 2010]?

[ROMMYromboid]

Voted Coleman, infact Ronnie is the last legitimate Olympia champion, Ronnie was so good that no amount of Philitix could sway the judges, Ronnie has good stucture, muscle shape and of course width and size. The current Mr O can only boats good arm shape, its plain nuts that the sport has turned into Mr Armlympia. Kai was the best man on stage this year.

[AllFiredUp1]

The only way I see somebody surpassing Ronnie is if there's a another revolution in drug protocol

And I think that's inevitable

[AllFiredUp1]

Ronnie votes:
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AllFiredUp1
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cedricnumerouno
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dingler
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Gorky88
handyman89
Ikatsu
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isins
jahaa
jamez123
JanesLastResort
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Jegudiel
Jonphinguyen7
JRMoore82
kayvez
Larfleeze
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LUGIA
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ROMMYromboid
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tng83
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Treeling
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VaughnTrue
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wburt88
weltweitefurcht
_Muskelberg_

Phil votes:
DPNZ
flangmasterj
Hessypie
Maverick313

[T3mpest]

The only way I see somebody surpassing Ronnie is if there's a another revolution in drug protocol

And I think that's inevitable

Or Ramy bring his his back up and comes in bone dry and shredded showing deeper cuts than usual from the front and some crispy glues, hams and lower back. IMHO, he has the overall size and his waist puts him over the top, if he comes in bone dry. Wouldnt' give him the better career mind you, but show for show I think that'd keep up or beat Ronnie. Genetic potential seems to be there, I think.

[T3mpest]

At first I was going to say surpass, but everyone still Considers Michael Jordan the best basketball player, maybe kobe or lebron have gotten close so far.

Kobe is as good or slightly better a shooter in his prime, that's it. He can knock down 3's like nobody in the game, probably ever. He won most of his championships with Shaq leading the way though. You still need a big man who can do work in the paint and Shaq was one of the best ever, due to his retard general size, both height and weight. If Kobe is having an off night, he's done. Shooting is 80% of his game lol, that's why he needs shaq for consistent points and rebound and what not. Lebron is a closer comparison. He is a good all rounder just like Jordan. Good on defense, offense, etc. Lebron lacks things too though. One first and foremost, he chokes. When **** gets hard he is more likely to to crumple and fail. For every brilliant game he plays he has others that are more important that really make you shake your head. Cramping this year in finals, being shut down by Leonard, etc. Jordan rose to challenges and Jordan was overall still the better scorer. Scoring is the main thing that makes a great player, it's soley what makes Kobe so amazing like I said earlier. Jordan had a better distance shot and was just as good in the paint. Combine that with the overall lack of choking and dominating will to win, and you gotta go with Jordan. Lebron only won one game this finals and he did it by himself, if that was Jordan, I bet they won at leat 2 games or at least werent' dominated by 20+ points all the time lol, changing nothing else on each time. Jordan wouldn't take that **** lying down like Lebron did.

For Lebron to have ANY chance at in the long run taking a shot at Jordan's legacy as GOAT, he needs to THRIVE in Cleveland this time. I'm talking 3+ finals WINS in 5-6 years, period. He needs to start shining game in game out, even in the finals.

[StopVinceYoung]

Usain Bolt is the Ronnie Coleman of sprinting. Ronnie>>>>>>>>Jay and Jay>>>>>>>Phil/anyone else. (all athletes in their prime form of course with > being the universal poop on symbol). Ronnie and Jay are 1 and 2 all time easily and then after that it gets tough. Pretty silly question as illustrated by the poll results, but fun. Thanks.

Question for the people who voted for Phil... Do you actually believe that? For the record I didn't vote because it's pretty pointless. Thanks.

[slinshot]

Was there any Olympia where Ronnie's win was questionable?

[Unbiasedfan]

Was there any Olympia where Ronnie's win was questionable?

Everything can be questioned. 2001 and 2002 had some controversy.

[slinshot]

Everything can be questioned. 2001 and 2002 had some controversy.

Thanks, I'm just wondering as to me he dominated most of them.

[LUGIA]

1 million years into the future my ghost will look down from heaven and look to see if anyone has surpassed Ronnie Coleman within the last million years and see noone has.

didn't have signature but now I will

also lol @ armlympia it's not like that he still has good details everywhere else but just lacks size and that wow effect

[Jegudiel]

Phil Heath? Who?

[BillyBil]

make it 1999 O ronnie vs 2011 O Phil

[Iceman1981]

make it 1999 O ronnie vs 2011 O Phil

Same outcome lol.

Phil sure was shredded though.

[esuhvaey]

i didn't really know who ronnie coleman was until i saw his lat spread

[LUGIA]

Phil Heath? Who?

holy lord

[RichInMuscle]

Tempted to neg op. Are you in the right forum?

[JRMoore82]

There's just something about phils back that just doesn't do it for me and I think it's his mid back. It's so huge it just kinda ruins the Pop Rons has.

[RoroCwalker]

There's just something about phils back that just doesn't do it for me and I think it's his mid back. It's so huge it just kinda ruins the Pop Rons has.

What?

[JRMoore82]

What?

It's kinda hard to explain. Pop was probably wrong word. Should have said aesthetically pleasing.

Edit- in Coleman its at the 130 ish mark. Just a lot better imho and I wouldn't want mine to look like heaths

[skinny2buff6]

in for ronnie support

[RoroCwalker]

It's kinda hard to explain. Pop was probably wrong word. Should have said aesthetically pleasing.

Edit- in Coleman its at the 130 ish mark. Just a lot better imho and I wouldn't want mine to look like heaths

I meant that I didn't understand the structure of the sentence.

Phil's mid back doesn't do it for you --> it's so huge that it ruins Ronnie's pop?

I don't understand what you mean.

[JRMoore82]

I meant that I didn't understand the structure of the sentence.

Phil's mid back doesn't do it for you --> it's so huge that it ruins Ronnie's pop?

I don't understand what you mean.

I'm owning complete grammatical **** up in my first post. Let me try again. Ignore the whole pop thing.

Phils mid muscle group is ****ing huge. I know the pose should emphasize it but aesthetically for me it looks off balanced to an overall picture. (Phil 140 ish mark). its just really hard for me to explain. I just like the overall balanced look of ronnies pose over phil

[LUGIA]

Tempted to neg op. Are you in the right forum?

Go for it try to read the thread again if you think I somewhere mentioned that anyone is better then peanut buddy, I just wanted to make a new thread not the same ones all the time in this section 24/7 about ramys conditioning and kai gettin robbed, that's pretty boring already isn't it

[Jonphinguyen7]

I'm owning complete grammatical **** up in my first post. Let me try again. Ignore the whole pop thing.

Phils mid muscle group is ****ing huge. I know the pose should emphasize it but aesthetically for me it looks off balanced to an overall picture. (Phil 140 ish mark). its just really hard for me to explain. I just like the overall balanced look of ronnies pose over phil

Yup. The first thing you see are his teardrop traps. It takes away from his lats too much.