KAI "I refuse to walk away in disbelief"

[atZ71]

Kai still very positive. I truly believe he will win an olympia someday. #LIMITLESSPOSSIBILITIES

[AniMaLizTik]

He just wants to be left alone after Phil was announced the winner.

he said himself in the DJ interview "theres a lot of other working pieces that determine who the champion is"

[Supercows]

anyone who is upset for kai can learn so much from watching that interview, amazing words and the manor in which he carried himself in defeat is really inspiring. not sad, not angry, not resentful, no remorse, just pure positivity and joy and appreciation and humility. very spot on everything he said in this interview. respect for kai. he has a beautiful mind.

At the end of all of this, just as kai alluded to, "I am not a judge, that is not my assignment." I think we can all learn from this and instead of trying to use the worst photos we can find of a particular athlete to try to justify a prediction or a wish, rather just appreciate the contest for what it is and the celebrate how bodybuilding fans from all over are joined each year for one amazing weekend.

[endurancell]

Wow Kai's attitude... the dude's dedication and positivism is unbelievable in the circumstances he is in. seeing him like this just after losing one of the MOST phixed olympias in history made my respect for him skyrocket. he has the mindset of a TRUE champ

[lukamura]

I feel kinda sorry for him, he nailed his mass/condition shape in 99%. Wasn't enough, or maybe was it... We'll never know. IFBB was never a 100% legit organization, so whatever...

Kai's still people's champ.

[Nuki]

The real champ right there!

[jenkojacks]

Yup, Phil Heath lost, and is only going downhill from here. Kai Greene still looks to be able to improve.

Future Mr. Olympia for sure.

[atZ71]

for anyone who missed it, here is kai's routine...

[bartosh]

He just wants to be left alone after Phil was announced the winner.

he said himself in the DJ interview "theres a lot of other working pieces that determine who the champion is"

This. I think he was doing his best to say "even if i have the best physique, there's more to it"

[yzrider400f]

kai used a fruit reference @ 2:47 in the first vid

[Canuck77]

Kai has the respect from the thousands and thousands he has entertained, awed and inspired over the years. He has taught us that if you believe, you can achieve. He is a true inspiration, a true legend and will forever be the people's champ, not only because of his drive, determination and perseverance but also because of his acts of humility in the face of both victory and defeat.

"Victory brings hate, because the defeated man is unhappy. He who surrenders victory and defeat, this man finds joy." - Buddha

[Gorky88]

Sometimes, in life with the shock of an event you can be gracious for what you have lost and try to look at it from a positive side and when asked to share your feelings, you might end up acting strong and believeing in yourself

Down the road, maybe not so long after, you realize you didnt face defeat(loss) yet and end up very demoralized and depressed unfortunately.

In his case, Kai might not take this loss well at all a week from now and how can he? How can you accept your fate when you have done all that you could and most people believed and told you, you were the better man... It is easier said than done and it crushed him so hard as you could see from his eyes.

It is so hard to understand what people go through in their lives with their personal losses. I feel for him

[Factchecker]

If any of us didn't know any better, we would know you're being a mockery. You're a sad individual. Try being positive: you might feel some happiness.

Sometimes, in life with the shock of an event you can be gracious for what you have lost and try to look at it from a positive side and when asked to share your feelings, you might end up acting strong and believeing in yourself

Down the road, maybe not so long after, you realize you didnt face defeat(loss) yet and end up very demoralized and depressed unfortunately.

In his case, Kai might not take this loss well at all a week from now and how can he? How can you accept your fate when you have done all that you could and most people believed and told you, you were the better man... It is easier said than done and it crushed him so hard as you could see from his eyes.

It is so hard to understand what people go through in their lives with their personal losses. I feel for him

[WizardsOfAus]

The dude is so much more than a physique. He is changing the world with his infectious positivity and inspiring words.

[Canuck77]

The dude is so much more than a physique. He is changing the world with his infectious positivity and inspiring words.

You mean another new phat gold chain, the latest jordans, and your name/company stitched into your lambo car seats isn't inspiring? hehe Maybe he can wear the 18ct gold Sandow around his neck.

[Loastres]

kai is 39, if he cant win an olympia now, he never will.
he is on that dere ronnie coleman 2005 time, its all downhill from here

[RoroCwalker]

kai is 39, if he cant win an olympia now, he never will.
he is on that dere ronnie coleman 2005 time, its all downhill from here

You're saying that based on what?

There's no sign of regression.

[mkz93]

mirin how humble he is.

[Loastres]

You're saying that based on what?

There's no sign of regression.

really ? hes getting old man muscle , compare this to 2012 and you suddenly notice how much worse it looks,
his biceps and triceps are looking more stringy then ever and this will only get worse, the short insertions are also not helping him at all.
his chest together with chest detail is fading ever so slightly.

honestly i thought more people would notice this but apparently Kai is valued way too high on this forum

[RoroCwalker]

really ? hes getting old man muscle , compare this to 2012 and you suddenly notice how much worse it looks,
his biceps and triceps are looking more stringy then ever and this will only get worse, the short insertions are also not helping him at all.
his chest together with chest detail is fading ever so slightly.

honestly i thought more people would notice this but apparently Kai is valued way too high on this forum

"Old man muscle", until I actually understand what that means, I can't argue with that.

2012 was one of his lightest form, obviously there will be colossal differences.

[Gorky88]

If any of us didn't know any better, we would know you're being a mockery. You're a sad individual. Try being positive: you might feel some happiness.

I am positive. Life is tough and so are losses. You probably do not know any better either. I am a realistic yet happy individual also

[Loastres]

"Old man muscle", until I actually understand what that means, I can't argue with that.

2012 was one of his lightest form, obviously there will be colossal differences.

Compare Ronnie 2002-3 to 2005. now if you look at kai 2-3 years ago, you'll notice the same transition. A bodybuilder has only so much time before father time catches up ...

[Canuck77]

"Old man muscle", until I actually understand what that means, I can't argue with that.

2012 was one of his lightest form, obviously there will be colossal differences.

I think he means signs of "atrophy" which I don't personally see any signs of when looking back and comparing his physique over the past few years. True that time is not on his side but just because competitors like Jay fell apart at 40, doesn't mine Kai is destined to follow the same path. Ronnie won an O is his early 40s and Dex has not slipped at now 44.

I thought this was Kai's big chance also because of the 40 year mark approaching but really, it is just a number and Kai has no signs of atrophy or regression as oppose to say someone like Branch who despite coming in conditioned in obviously fading.

[stealth_swimmer]

anyone who is upset for kai can learn so much from watching that interview, amazing words and the manor in which he carried himself in defeat is really inspiring. not sad, not angry, not resentful, no remorse, just pure positivity and joy and appreciation and humility. very spot on everything he said in this interview. respect for kai. he has a beautiful mind.

At the end of all of this, just as kai alluded to, "I am not a judge, that is not my assignment." I think we can all learn from this and instead of trying to use the worst photos we can find of a particular athlete to try to justify a prediction or a wish, rather just appreciate the contest for what it is and the celebrate how bodybuilding fans from all over are joined each year for one amazing weekend.

Exactly! Kai's fans could learn a thing or two from Kai himself. I got the same impression from DLB and her fans at the expo after the final placings were announced for Women's Physique.

Yup, Phil Heath lost, and is only going downhill from here. Kai Greene still looks to be able to improve.

Future Mr. Olympia for sure.

Agreed about Kai, but disagreed about Phil. Also, we can't tell if Kai is a future Mr. Olympia, although it would be awesome if he got to win it someday.

[WizardsOfAus]

I think he means signs of "atrophy" which I don't personally see any signs of when looking back and comparing his physique over the past few years. True that time is not on his side but just because competitors like Jay fell apart at 40, doesn't mine Kai is destined to follow the same path. Ronnie won an O is his early 40s and Dex has not slipped at now 44.

I thought this was Kai's big chance also because of the 40 year mark approaching but really, it is just a number and Kai has no signs of atrophy or regression as oppose to say someone like Branch who despite coming in conditioned in obviously fading.

This.

Look at the former top IFBB pros of the last 2 decades, and you'll see what caused their physique to deteriorate (and eventually forced them into retirement) wasn't age itself, but injuries. What do Dorian, Ronnie, Jay, Kevin (with Branch and Victor going down the same path) have in common? They all suffered muscle tears and other injuries, which caused training setbacks and ruined their physique to some extent. Dorian retired after the 1997 Olympia when he was 35 years old (only a year older than Phil is now). I don't think age was really a factor in his regression, nor Kevin Levrone, who competed in his last Olympia at 37. Guys like Kai and Dexter are getting up there in age yet showing no signs of regression, because they've been able to avoid chronic injuries. That's the difference between bodybuilders who have great longevity in the sport and those who don't.

[Problematique91]

The dude is so much more than a physique. He is changing the world with his infectious positivity and inspiring words.

Changing the world? You have got to be kidding me.

[cedricnumerouno]

Changing the world? You have got to be kidding me.

Are you taking your carnivor? Are you taking your amino-decanate? You know I am!