Uncrowned Mr Olympia appreciation thread

[Larfleeze]

A thread for those guys who, for whatever reason, were wronged/screwed out of the title.
Feel free to add pics/anyone you feel belongs here.

Victor Martinez (07)








Nasser el Sonbaty (97)








Tom Platz (81)









Kai Greene (12, 13, 14)






disclaimer: I had Dorian winning in 97, but it'd be wrong to leave Nasser out of this thread considering how many feel that way

[deathmetal1992]

2012 was pretty dead-even imo, could've gone either way, but everyone knows the champ has an advantage so I'll let that one pass. 2013 was Phil's, Kai was off. 2014 though...... well I can't wait to see what the Phil fanboys come up with.

[cedricnumerouno]

You had so much credibility until Kai for 12/13. Clearly someone has disdain for Phil other than his physique.
Also not posting comparisons...

[Larfleeze]

2012 was pretty dead-even imo, could've gone either way, but everyone knows the champ has an advantage so I'll let that one pass. 2013 was Phil's, Kai was off. 2014 though...... well I can't wait to see what the Phil fanboys come up with.

Just when I personally had him winning, let's not turn this into Phil v Kai #1272

You had so much credibility until Kai for 12/13. Clearly someone has disdain for Phil other than his physique.
Also not posting comparisons...

It's an opinion and appreciation thread, not a comparison one.

[deathmetal1992]

Just when I personally had him winning, let's not turn this into Phil v Kai #1272

Oh, I know, I was just saying. I don't want a long thread about who deserved what.....

[deathmetal1992]

1972 Sergio was also screwed. 1975 Nubret also had potential to win. Inb4 Pyrolee.

[cedricnumerouno]

It's an opinion and appreciation thread, not a comparison one.

Why not post a comparison where we can appreciate how much they dominated?

PS: Those Vic photos are shopped.

[jamiesays]

jesus Vic was amazing in 07

[GuusD]

Mike Mentzer 1980

[cedricnumerouno]

jesus Vic was amazing in 07

Those are magazine shots, where he was photoshopped. Amazing physique and it's disrespectful to do that to him.

[oldunclehue]

Ok so as someone who doesn't follow the sport crazy amounts, but I like it and enjoy watching....I am finding myself less and less interested in following as I don't understand the judging and everyone sees thinks differently so I can't follow.

Last year I watched the Olympia and saw phil beat Kai on the first day, the mandatorily and comparisons. The following day in the finals Kai was better and winning. All the commentators and people on here said, the final doesn't matter, the first day is when it's decided.

This year was reversed for me...Kai looked much better and Phil had No abs/seemed a lot worse on Friday.

Phil looked slightly better yesterday but to me Kai seemed close to the same and should of won.

So how can you keep people like me interested and watching the competitions if there is no rightful explanation as to why Phil won.

[JanesLastResort]

Phil edged Kai out in 12 by a lot towards the end. Phil was completely ON while Kai wasn't. Kai also really missed the mark in 13. Didn't look his best at the night show, but had Phil beat at prej. All in all at this point i can see how Phil won last year.

Agreed on 2014.

[nonamewut]

2012 was pretty dead-even imo, could've gone either way, but everyone knows the champ has an advantage so I'll let that one pass. 2013 was Phil's, Kai was off. 2014 though...... well I can't wait to see what the Phil fanboys come up with.

this

2011 phil won
2012 very close, but phil won
2013 kai was huge, but phil won
2014 kai won

[Unbiasedfan]

Ok so as someone who doesn't follow the sport crazy amounts, but I like it and enjoy watching....I am finding myself less and less interested in following as I don't understand the judging and everyone sees thinks differently so I can't follow.

Last year I watched the Olympia and saw phil beat Kai on the first day, the mandatorily and comparisons. The following day in the finals Kai was better and winning. All the commentators and people on here said, the final doesn't matter, the first day is when it's decided.

This year was reversed for me...Kai looked much better and Phil had No abs/seemed a lot worse on Friday.

Phil looked slightly better yesterday but to me Kai seemed close to the same and should of won.

So how can you keep people like me interested and watching the competitions if there is no rightful explanation as to why Phil won.

Finals are 50% and pre judging is 50%.

There is no explanation within the criteria to show why phil won.

[musclemecca]

2012 phil won it, but it was close
2013 phil won it too

2014 is a phucking BS, kai won that.

[oldunclehue]

Finals are 50% and pre judging is 50%.

There is no explanation within the criteria to show why phil won.

Oh I understand this..but last year the Phil fanboys were saying the First night was all that mattered, whoever did better then would be champ, and Phil was better that night, Kai better on Saturday.

This year Kai was better friday and they looked close to even in saturday...and Phil won.

So as someone who's enjoying the sport but not understanding how things go, it appears to me the IFBB has no clue what to do and it's never consistent which makes me not watch it.

I won't watch next year, just can't understand what the judges do other than pick their favorite...

[Unbiasedfan]

Oh I understand this..but last year the Phil fanboys were saying the First night was all that mattered, whoever did better then would be champ, and Phil was better that night, Kai better on Saturday.

This year Kai was better friday and they looked close to even in saturday...and Phil won.

So as someone who's enjoying the sport but not understanding how things go, it appears to me the IFBB has no clue what to do and it's never consistent which makes me not watch it.

I won't watch next year, just can't understand what the judges do other than pick their favorite...

Phil won with perfect scores, which means he was considered better at both pre J and finals.

[mbamboocha112]

if you win the prejudging(2014 kai) it s easy to win the fina(phixed)l..if you are better at finals)(kai 2013/2014)) it s easy to be better at prejudging(kai 2013/2014)..it is easy to come better at the prejudging/finals...wut?